Posted on 05/22/2010 2:17:14 PM PDT by pissant
vaudine
Thanks for that... I was pointing to that other post, but your post is absolutely “solid” and indisputable ...
Yes! No way the Founding Fathers meant for Mexicans to run for the border and fall across it just to have a citizen on whom to anchor the importation of the rest of the family, including siblings, in-laws, aunts, uncles, grandparents, etc.
Well, then..., the founding fathers did provide a way for you and me to change that -- if we don't agree with what has happened, in the meantime, since they founded this country.
They provided, for you and me, the Constitutional Amendment process -- in order to have the "will of the people" prevail upon the courts, no matter what the courts think.
That's how it can be taken care of ...
We shouldn't have to. The 14th Amendment does not authorize 'anchor babies'
"Every Person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons."
Senator Jacob Howard, co-author of the citizenship clause of the 14th Amendment, 1866.
Also see this thread for what 'subject to the jurisdiction thereof' really means.
Given that language, how has it come about that we let these babies be citizens?
So we should REWARD those who break into this country illegally and steal our resources by giving their children instant citizenship (virtually?) This is NOT constitutional, and the U.S.S.C. would have to stand reason on its head to argue this on the basis of constitutionality (not that they’ve needed this basis before.)
Citizenship by birth location makes no sense now that the U.S is less than 1-day’s travel from almost everywhere.
Thanks.
I do have to say I understand everyone’s frustration on this issue because I feel the same. Babies of illegal aliens should have their parents nationality(ies).
Something I want to add: when illegal alien parents are deported the family must be kept together. Children born here of alien parents can always, upon majority, apply to be recognized as U.S. native born citizens.
The U.S. government isn’t constitutionally required to provide child welfare for foreigners who are deported.
Can a Constitutional matter be nullified by a jury?
Is jury nullification for that one time only or does it set a precident that can, over time, nullify completely a law or a Constitutional element?
So, any anchor baby born here of illegal aliens is a native born citizen but will never be eligible to become President.”
Since that law has already been violated by the Kenyan in the Oval Office.....
I don’t think we should have any of these ‘anchor babies’ here at all.
It is a drain on our resources beyond anything the media has ever had the guts to tell citizens.
And make it RETROACTIVE. Like they do with tax increases.
Power grab by the general government. After grinding through the public education system, most people won't even entertain the thought that the federal government has any sort of restraints, much less look at the evidence that clearly shows the differentiation between a Citizen of a State and a citizen of the United States.
§ 1218. The inhabitants enjoy all their civil, religious, and political rights. They live substantially under the same laws, as at the time of the cession, such changes only having been made, as have been devised, and sought by themselves. They are not indeed citizens of any state, entitled to the privileges of such; but they are citizens of the United States. They have no immediate representatives in congress.
Joseph Story, Commentaries on the Constitution
Flap your gums to someone else.
Works for me. Mexico, come pick up your los ninos at the border control point.
I guess if we can’t get them to read a 10 page bill, they probably won’t read the constitution.
Arizona certainly has a case here. Their case is that within their borders, THEY WILL FOLLOW THE CONSTITUTION, not some liberal courts bastardization of it.
Hell of a GOOD idea!
Gets my vote...
End chain migration...Gets my vote...
This government would allow cannibals the African Congo to immigrate here, and tell us we must respect their culture...
Our government has become very troublesome.
LOL ... you still haven’t gotten the clue yet, even though I tell you just about every time ... I don’t “continue” with conversations with people if they stop talking to me ... :-)
But, that’s too difficult for you to comprehend, obviously, so I’ll try it again and see if it sinks in this time ...
Given that language, how has it come about that we let these babies be citizens?
Ummm..., the Supreme Court ... :-)
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