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Chinese Navy Obtains Illegal Aircraft
The Strategy Page ^ | 5/16/2010 | The Strategy Page

Posted on 05/16/2010 6:39:08 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld

Satellite photos recently revealed that the Chinese Navy has received J-11 jet fighters. These are illegal Chinese copies of the Russian Su-27. This plagiarism has been a source of friction between Russia and China for over five years. It all began, legally, in 1995, when China paid $2.5 billion for the right to build 200 Su-27s. Russia would supply engines and electronics, with China building the other components according to Russian plans and specifications. But after 95 of the Chinese built aircraft were built, Russia cancelled the agreement. They claimed that China was using the knowledge acquired with this Su-27 program, to build their own copy of the Su-27, the J-11. Russia kept the piracy issue quiet, and warned the Chinese that simply copying Russian technology would produce an inferior aircraft. Apparently the Chinese did not agree, and are continuing their work on the J-11, using only, what they claim is, Chinese technology.

The J-11 is believed to now include better electronics and some other Chinese design modifications. China can manufacture most of the components of the J-11, the one major element it must import are the engines. China believes it will be free from dependence on Russia for military jet engines within the next 5-10 years. Currently, China imports two Russian engines, the $3.5 million AL-31 (for the Su-27/30, J-11, J-10) and the $2.5 million RD-93 (a version of the MiG-29s RD-33) for the JF-17 (a F-16 type aircraft developed in cooperation with Pakistan.)

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aerospace; china; chinesenavy; chinesetechnology; industrialespionage; j11; jetfighters; militarytechnology; navair; pla; plan; russia; russiantechnology; su27; sukhoi
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1 posted on 05/16/2010 6:39:08 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld
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To: sonofstrangelove

Awesome!


2 posted on 05/16/2010 6:40:58 PM PDT by demkicker (Helping Democrats Become Extinct)
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To: sonofstrangelove

A thief stealing from a thief.


3 posted on 05/16/2010 6:41:02 PM PDT by mainsail that (Vote Obama: Get 15 salaries and retire at 45!)
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To: sonofstrangelove

More targets...


4 posted on 05/16/2010 6:41:31 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: sonofstrangelove
They claimed that China was using the knowledge acquired with this Su-27 program, to build their own copy of the Su-27, the J-11.

Wow. Whoda thunk it?

5 posted on 05/16/2010 6:43:24 PM PDT by Richard Kimball (We're all criminals. They just haven't figured out what some of us have done yet.)
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To: sonofstrangelove
a little more than bootlegging DVD's...
6 posted on 05/16/2010 6:44:11 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: sonofstrangelove

7 posted on 05/16/2010 6:47:34 PM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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To: mainsail that

I hope that this doesn’t mean the price of fried rice is going up.


8 posted on 05/16/2010 6:48:04 PM PDT by donhunt (I used to have a US senator who lived in a compound.)
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To: Chode

A bit of payback for the B-29.


9 posted on 05/16/2010 6:49:00 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: sonofstrangelove

And that my friends is why we shouldn’t outsource anything. Intellectual property laws mean nothing to China or India.


10 posted on 05/16/2010 6:49:18 PM PDT by Cyclone59 (I ROCK, Guitar Hero said so........)
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11 posted on 05/16/2010 6:53:47 PM PDT by magslinger (Tagline impounded as a threat to national security.)
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To: demkicker

Dr. Strangelove is back again...


12 posted on 05/16/2010 6:55:57 PM PDT by television is just wrong
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To: Cyclone59

As soon as things are much more complicated now, reverse engineering in hi-tech sector might be just a little easier than building own product.

These Russian engines is a good example. They are absolete ‘70s tech and Chinese still unable to reproduce it just like they couldn’t build it from kits they got earlier so they switched to buy it assembled.


13 posted on 05/16/2010 7:00:16 PM PDT by cunning_fish
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To: sonofstrangelove

They deserve each other....


14 posted on 05/16/2010 7:16:17 PM PDT by traumer
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To: sonofstrangelove

Raptor Bait


15 posted on 05/16/2010 7:24:07 PM PDT by halfright (My presidents picture is in the dictionary, next to the word, "rectum".)
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To: sonofstrangelove

Well!What are the Russian’s going to do?Sue and take them to court.MAybe they’ll be very carefull to whom they provide their technology.

The U.S. had better learn a lesson as well.


16 posted on 05/16/2010 7:28:47 PM PDT by puppypusher
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To: puppypusher

I agree.


17 posted on 05/16/2010 7:29:23 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("You hit somebody with your fist and not with your fingers spread:-General Heinz Guderian)
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To: sonofstrangelove

The Russians get Russianed. Love it!


18 posted on 05/16/2010 7:46:05 PM PDT by ryan71 (Let's Roll!)
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To: sonofstrangelove
There are no illegal aircraft.
19 posted on 05/16/2010 7:49:54 PM PDT by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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To: sonofstrangelove

Commies stealing from commies -whodda thunk it.

On the other hand, it is true that most of the AK-47 derived weapons have not earned the Russians dime one.


20 posted on 05/16/2010 8:10:48 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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