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Going Galt: When Will Surgeons Say Enough is Enough
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Posted on 05/16/2010 12:22:57 PM PDT by glocker23

This video is about the current health care situation from a Surgeons perspective. Some of the humor contains inside jokes, but the topics discussed go to the heart of what is wrong with Obamacare.

Click the link above, sit back and enjoy. By the end hopefully you will have an increased understanding of at least one Surgeons view on the current health care environment.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bhohealthcare; deathpanels; galt; healthcarereform; obamacare; surgeons

1 posted on 05/16/2010 12:22:58 PM PDT by glocker23
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To: glocker23

Americans don’t go Gault. Americans go Postal.


2 posted on 05/16/2010 12:44:50 PM PDT by redreno (Americans don't go Gault. Americans go Postal.)
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To: redreno

This should be required listening for all Freepers and conservatives. It supplies a lot of ammo to defend our anti-Obama care stand.
The idea of refusing elective surgery to Trial Lawyers, their families and politicians who support them is great.
I have to admit that I used to avoid having Lawyers as customers..many times I would also tell a customer that if we had to negotiate the deal with his lawyer..the deal was off.


3 posted on 05/16/2010 12:53:07 PM PDT by Oldexpat
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To: glocker23

Thanks for posting.

A 29 minute video well worth watching.


4 posted on 05/16/2010 1:04:52 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: glocker23

That was fantastic...thanks for the find!

I’m e-mailing it around...


5 posted on 05/16/2010 1:18:15 PM PDT by Ethrane ("obsta principiis")
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To: redreno

Liberals go postal - conservatives go Galt.


6 posted on 05/16/2010 1:25:24 PM PDT by GOPJ (Americans..speak of capitalism's glories(rather)than of socialism's greatness. Elena Kagan (thesis))
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To: GOPJ

Amen.


7 posted on 05/16/2010 1:30:25 PM PDT by upchuck (If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face -- forever. "1984")
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To: glocker23

Great video - thanks for posting this...


8 posted on 05/16/2010 1:33:48 PM PDT by GOPJ (Americans..speak of capitalism's glories(rather)than of socialism's greatness. Elena Kagan (thesis))
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To: glocker23
I liked the range shots and some fun inside jokes. I think it gets many of the points across very well. Go Tort Reform!

I agree with nearly all of it, but have to criticize some points...
You're right about many people not understanding that total exhaustion. On the other hand, because the profession didn't handle problems like resident fatigue and night float adequately, the ACGME was put into the position of having to push through something less than perfect. I also find it rather insulting to claim that there's no understanding of these problems just because there are disagreements--note that the surgical "profession" (trade?) receives the benefit of government intervention by supporting the "guild" restrictions that keep the number of surgeons down. A truly "free" market would not prosecute those who don't have a government license requiring concurrence of the guild.

So how was this presentation received during Grand Rounds?

(BTW, if that study was in the ANALS of surgery, does it mean it's only for colo-rectal surgeons?? ;-)

And another question...isn't it unethical to provide elective care to lawyers, when their interests are so contrary to your own? Isn't any surgeon thereby acting in a potential conflict-of-interest situation?

And finally, a wonderful tribute to Taylor and Derek.

9 posted on 05/16/2010 1:39:18 PM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: GOPJ

I was going to say certain government workers go postal, your way of framing it is good too.


10 posted on 05/16/2010 1:39:47 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Gondring

Glad you liked it. I agree that as a profession we didn’t handle work hour issues effectively. There have been benefits to the 80 hour work week... I think we work more efficiently now and some of the abuse of residents has subsided. That being said we are starting to see a change in the mentality of those entering surgery residency... more see it as shift work and don’t accept ownership of the patient and that is dangerous.

The claim that there is no understanding regarding restrictions of resident work hours refers to the politicians that are pressuring the IM and ACGME to further restrict hours. I know those within the medical profession on those boards recognize the pros/cons of hour restrictions. We must also recognize a significant difference exists in how certain specialties are trained and that should be reflected in the ACGME’s policies.

Yeah, the Annals sounded a little more like Anals (I was too tired to go back and rerecord that audio though :))

It got an extremely positive response at Grand Rounds, all the requests for copies is what led me to post it online.

The Guild issue is an interesting one, and honestly I hadn’t really thought about it. I still think it is necessary to ensure that those practicing have meet certain requirements that the profession establishes for the safety of patients.

Is it unethical to treat Lawyers? I don’t think I would go that far. I only aim to point out that it is not unethical to refuse elective care to those that would destroy us.


11 posted on 05/16/2010 2:02:06 PM PDT by glocker23 (Live Free Or Die)
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To: glocker23
Most excellent!

I joined vimeo to email it, and noticed this weeks view stats:

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One to four plays per day but 364 plays the day you link it on FR.

Did you advertise elsewhere?

Outstanding vid, regardless.

12 posted on 05/16/2010 3:48:30 PM PDT by skeptoid
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To: glocker23
When Will Surgeons Say Enough is Enough

Most will within five years of the start of 0bamaCare. Other doctors too. Americans won't accept slavery.

13 posted on 05/16/2010 3:52:31 PM PDT by TigersEye (0basma's father was a British subject. He can't be a "natural-born" citizen.)
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To: skeptoid

No, I had it password protected and sent to just some friends and family. Just decided today to make it public.


14 posted on 05/16/2010 4:07:10 PM PDT by glocker23 (Live Free Or Die)
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To: glocker23

outstanding! Forwarding to my brother, an orthopod. Keep on keepin on Doc.


15 posted on 05/16/2010 4:11:45 PM PDT by strongbow
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To: Secret Agent Man

Thanks :)


16 posted on 05/16/2010 5:53:06 PM PDT by GOPJ (Americans..speak of capitalism's glories(rather)than of socialism's greatness. Elena Kagan (thesis))
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To: glocker23
That being said we are starting to see a change in the mentality of those entering surgery residency... more see it as shift work and don’t accept ownership of the patient and that is dangerous.

You're not controlling your variables. In every field, the "Millenials" have such attitudes.

I still think it is necessary to ensure that those practicing have meet certain requirements that the profession establishes for the safety of patients.

But surely "FACS" has meaning, does it not? If a private organization can define requirements, why can it not for safety of patients?

17 posted on 05/19/2010 6:50:46 PM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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