Posted on 04/27/2010 9:29:08 AM PDT by marstegreg
This story contains much more information and additional photos than The Sun.
(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...
Can some one help me post the photos from this article?
Thanks :)
Everybody should already know the ark was found in Wales. At least that’s what I think it said in a previous Sun article. /s
Obama is calling in a missile strike as we speak ...
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Another comedy thread:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2501453/posts?page=50#50
Here is a link to the Sun article.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2949640/Noahs-Ark-found-in-Turkey.html
I remember years ago this being on the net news when they found it. Now that they have evidence what will the atheists say now?
Probably. He will order it to be be demonized Saul Alinsky style; cuz crazy ‘right wingers’ are making the claim.
They found a wood structure. Remind me again how that makes it the Ark? It couldn’t possibly be an old monastery or anything else?
Look - my house is made of wood! It must be Noah’s Ark!
It certainly looks old. Judging by the one photo in the article where it is encased in ice, it looke like it has been there for a long, long time. Any geologists out there have an oponion based on the photos?
Evangelists claim (again) Noahs Ark Found
Several such prior "discoveries" of hewn wood and wooden structures turned out to be assorted hut's and shrines built high in the mountains.
Even if it turns out to be a boatlike structure made of gopherwood and pitch, that doesn't mean it was Noah's ark. It may have been a shrine built on-site by some local leader.
Agreed. See my post #15.
I know it’s a stretch, but I want more info before I decide.
So, has anyone mentioned what type of wood was used in building this structure?
“Remind me again how that makes it the Ark? It couldn’t possibly be an old monastery or anything else?”
The article clearly states, “The group of archaeologists ruled out an established human settlement, explaining one had never been found above 11,500 feet in the vicinity.”
My guess is that they believe it’s the ark because it is said to have rested in the mountains of Ararat not your front yard.
Are they right? Who knows, but it’s much more interesting than your flip response would suggest.
Carbon dating puts it at 2800 B.C. Works for me.
More information? O.K., What about the brass plate that said, “Made by Noah’s Ark Works, Ararat”.
Forget the Ark, there should also be evidence of the world flood, and all the animals returning to land in one place - however many thousands of species of vertebrates...
They said some of the wood-like rocks they tested proved to be petrified wood.
I think since the wood has already become petrified, it may not be so easy to say what kind it was, but I’m only guessing.
I don't believe so. It may just be a whole lot of shittim.
Fair enough.... but if it’s a more-or-less single structure that’s at least a football field long, that probably qualifies.
“The group of archaeologists ruled out an established human settlement, explaining one had never been found above 11,500 feet in the vicinity.”
Until today.
That statement contains the WORST logic I’ve ever heard. No Ark had ever previously been found in the vicinity EITHER. So, by their own logical constructs, it’s not an Ark either.
Do you see?
You owe me a keyboard. I'll never get the coffee out of this one.
Except any creationist will tell you carbon dating is bunk. (Unless it supports what they want it to support - then it’s sound science.)
I find it and interesting story regardless of the out come.
FYI I just received this...I have received this from a third party so I cannot state that this is actually from Dr. Price.
Dear Friends,
Many of you have seen the preliminary news announcement of an alleged discovery of Noah’s Ark by a Chinese expedition team and asked me for clarification. I knew this was coming and have been praying about how to respond.
I was the archaeologist with the Chinese expedition in the summer of 2008 and was given photos of what they now are reporting to be the inside of the Ark. I and my partners invested $100,000 in this expedition (described below) which they have retained, despite their promise and our requests to return it, since it was not used for the expedition. The information given below is my opinion based on what I have seen and heard (from others who claim to have been eyewitnesses or know the exact details).
To make a long story short: this is all reported to be a fake. The photos were reputed to have been taken off site near the Black Sea, but the film footage the Chinese now have was shot on location on Mt. Ararat. In the late summer of 2008 ten Kurdish workers hired by Parasut, the guide used by the Chinese, are said to have planted large wood beams taken from an old structure in the Black Sea area (where the photos were originally taken) at the Mt. Ararat site. In the winter of 2008 a Chinese climber taken by Parasut’s men to the site saw the wood, but couldn’t get inside because of the severe weather conditions. During the summer of 2009 more wood was planted inside a cave at the site. The Chinese team went in the late summer of 2009 (I was there at the time and knew about the hoax) and was shown the cave with the wood and made their film. As I said, I have the photos of the inside of the so-called Ark (that show cobwebs in the corners of rafters - something just not p! ossible in these conditions) and our Kurdish partner in Dogubabyazit (the village at the foot of Mt. Ararat) has all of the facts about the location, the men who planted the wood, and even the truck that transported it.
To my knowledge, the Chinese took no professional archaeologist or geologist who could verify or document the wood or the structure in situ (in its place of discovery). They were duped in 2006-2007 by Parasut when they were shown a similar cave with something they thought was wood. I met the Chinese when I went with a team of geologists to examine the “wood” in Dogubabyazit and to report that it was volcanic rock (called “tuff”) and not wood. Thereafter, since the Chinese were apparently able to get permits to climb in previously off-limit sites, I and two other professionals joined with the Chinese (bringing our own independent satellite data) and went with them to Mt. Ararat in 2008. During that expedition, the guide Parasut who claimed to have found the Ark, was constantly drunk and after one month sitting in a hotel waiting, the expedition never happened. It was at this time that I made contact with Dr. Richard Bright who has climbed Mt. Ararat 33 times in sea! rch of the Ark and with several others climbed the western side of Mt. Ararat with a shepherd (who had recently been discovered by Dr. Bright’s Kurdish partner) who knew the location of a piece of the Ark. Last year we had a good expedition to a higher site (the satellite site) and this summer we will excavate the shepherd’s site and have every reason to expect success.
I am sorry to have to report that this is apparently a fake (and I am sure that the Chinese do not know this, but they do not respond to my e-mails), however, we do hope soon to have the real thing.
I encourage your prayers for me and others who will have to explain this “discovery” to many others - because negative reports are never well received and motives are questioned, especially when those doing so are part of a competitive expedition. But we do not want people to reject the truth of the Bible because another Noah’s Ark report turns out to be false. We prefer to as clear upfront in our reporting as possible so Christians (and others) can make up their own minds.
I hope that this will be helpful to you at this time,
Randall Price
Archaeologist
Ark Search LLC Expedition
World of the Bible Ministries
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..as she walked down the gang plank with the other hippo...
Noah’s Ark found (?) ping.
Thanks for posting the letter, my mind would have been speculating for days!
Thanks, I did not know that. I will refrain in the future. :)
It is unlikely to be an old monastery or anything of the sort. I think general scientific consensus would be that a human would have great difficulty surviving at that altitude, and the idea that humans could have exerted the physical energy to build such a structure at such a height is considered outside the realm of possibility. (Not to mention the effort of getting wood to those heights - I don't believe trees can grow at anything near those altitudes). So they have a large wooden structure that most likely was not built on site and could not have been moved to the site by humans. That would lead one to believe it arrived at it's current placement through an unusual natural occurence (such as a flood). After that it is a leap of faith to say it is "Noah's Ark" - but it is certainly a extraordinarily unusual discovery. But unless they find a to-do list in Mrs. Noah's handwriting -smile- we are left with something extraordinarily unusual that COULD be explained by the story of The Flood. Or Martians could have dropped it there.
My money would go on The Flood explanation. -smile-
>> Except any creationist will tell you carbon dating is bunk. (Unless it supports what they want it to support - then it’s sound science.) <<
All facts are bunk, but some facts are less bunk than others....
Jesus himself could come down in a cloud and warn people and they would want scientific proof and CNN would say we were all right wing whackos that created it.
At a 12,000 foot altitude? On that utterly barren mountain?
I dunno. Sounds like an unlikely place to build a monastery, even if you wanted a remote location. The top of Mt. Ararat might as well be Mars.
I'd like to see some detailed drawings/photos of the layout of that structure to get a better sense of what it might have been.
Welcome, thanks for your understanding.
I have seen seashells in caves up high in the Rocky mountains. I wonder how they got there.
Uh huh...
Carbn dating is fine for objects younger than 50,000 years old. Beyond that it is crap.
Helen Thomas: “ahh, memories...”
Which animal was she? The Hippo?
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