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Immigration dominates McCain town hall
Arizona Daily Star ^ | April 24, 2010 | Rhonda Bodfield

Posted on 04/24/2010 6:07:52 PM PDT by mdittmar

Arizona Sen. John McCain's town hall in Tucson Saturday was all about immigration.

McCain had sounded a note of support for Arizona's tough new immigration, calling it a “good tool” for law enforcement. But he stopped short of fully endorsing the measure.

“I haven’t had a chance to look at all the aspects, but I do understand why the Legislature would act,” he said. Even though it wasn’t clear to him “whether all of it is legal or not,” he said state lawmakers “acted out of frustration because the federal government didn’t do its job.”

He spoke of his 10-point plan to do that, including boosting border troops, paying them more, finishing the fence, improving communications equipment and giving more resources to local law enforcement.

Several in the crowd said they support the new law and expressed frustration about the lack of enforcement.

Bob Foy, a 68-year-old retired lieutenant in the Los Angeles sheriff’s department, said holes in border enforcement are allowing the free flow of narcotics and weapons into the country. “We’re in such imminent danger that we don’t have another 100 years to get this straight,” he said. The new law, while “not the perfect answer, is an answer,” he said.

One woman said she lives near the Buenos Aires National Wildlife Refuge, which is being “trashed” by border crossers. Another said her daughter’s boyfriend is an illegal immigrant who has been in prison three times and keeps coming back.

One man chimed in that he was concerned about the mood, saying he was getting a vibe of animosity toward Mexican people in general.

McCain responded, “I am worried about anti-Hispanic feeling in this country and I am concerned about condemning good, honest citizens of Hispanic origin because of this (immigration) problem.” He noted Tucson was a Spanish-speaking city before it was English and he cherished the Latino heritage.

But pointing to the murder of rancher Robert Krentz, he said border problems need to be addressed not only for citizens here but for immigrants, who aren’t protected under American laws and are preyed upon by criminal elements.

Pressed by one woman to call Grijalva’s boycott irresponsible, McCain said he strongly disagrees with it, especially since the economy is hurting so badly.

McCain, who has previously backed efforts to strengthen border security while creating a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants, has been speaking almost exclusively about border security this election season. The primary race pits him against former U.S. Congressman J.D. Hayworth, who is painting himself as the more conservative option.

McCain’s border stance sits just fine with 60-year-old Patricia Patterson, a concierge. “I was on the fence about a few things, and then I saw him shift away from amnesty and that brought me back to his side,” she said.

Meanwhile, 29-year-old film student Omar Martinez said he’s leaning toward McCain also. “I was crushed by the new law,” he said. While he’s fearful that people of Mexican descent like himself will be made scapegoats, particularly given deep economic frustrations, he said he was pleased with McCain’s comments respecting his culture.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: az2010; illegals; issues; juanmccain; mccain; quintessentialrino; townhalls
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1 posted on 04/24/2010 6:07:52 PM PDT by mdittmar
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To: mdittmar
"But he [McCain] stopped short of fully endorsing the measure. “I haven’t had a chance to look at all the aspects, but I do understand why the Legislature would act,” he said."

Worthless, pandering, equivocating politician.

Here's a clue for you John...a nation that doesn't defend its borders has lost its sovereignty, and can no longer be called a nation.

No other nation in the world allows the level of unchecked illegal immigration that we do, and it's all the deliberate doing of liberal Democrats.

It's destructive to our survival, and it is treason, John. You obviously don't understand that most basic concept, which makes you unfit for any office.

2 posted on 04/24/2010 6:13:22 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: mdittmar
McCain’s border stance sits just fine with 60-year-old Patricia Patterson, a concierge. “I was on the fence about a few things, and then I saw him shift away from amnesty and that brought me back to his side,” she said.

Well Patricia, just as soon as he dupes enough of the people like you and gets reelected, he will be back to touting a 'Path to Citizenship' = Amnesty.

Wake up Patricia! Get smart, stay smart!

3 posted on 04/24/2010 6:14:42 PM PDT by Hostage
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To: rabscuttle385

McCain ping


4 posted on 04/24/2010 6:15:12 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Obama's more worried about Israelis building houses than he is about Islamists building atomic bombs)
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To: mdittmar

All these illegals need to do no matter what country they are from is go back home and clean your own country up inside of buying from your government you are nothing but slaves. You aren’t. Don’t come over here and trash our country like robots with brains the size of gnats just because some thug tells you too.


5 posted on 04/24/2010 6:15:22 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: mdittmar
McCain is an A***ole. I don't have to read any further. It's time
6 posted on 04/24/2010 6:15:35 PM PDT by Outlaw Woman (Control the American people? Herding cats would be easier.)
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To: McLame

"I am worried about anti-Hispanic feeling in this country"

Got a sec to worry about anti white feeling in this country?


7 posted on 04/24/2010 6:18:15 PM PDT by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: Windflier
Want to be elected? Citizens want secure borders, should be easy. I could do it , You could as well. You don;t need alot of positions. A common sense one will do it. Then do it. And then leave.
8 posted on 04/24/2010 6:18:44 PM PDT by reefdiver ("Let His day's be few And another takes His office")
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To: All
TO Omar in the article:

HOW ABOUT RESPECTING AMERICAN CULTURE?!

9 posted on 04/24/2010 6:20:48 PM PDT by Republic (Stop the horrific liberals from spending ONE MORE DIME before they destroy our nation.)
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To: mdittmar

McCain obeys the masters who pay him. He pursues his personal interest, like every other politician.


10 posted on 04/24/2010 6:21:02 PM PDT by Judges Gone Wild (Who is this uncircumcised, to oppose the armies of The Living God?)
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To: mdittmar

Point 11, of his 10-point plan:
“All the preceding are only to get me re-elected and will NEVER be implemented.”


11 posted on 04/24/2010 6:22:26 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: mdittmar

“Another said her daughter’s boyfriend is an illegal immigrant who has been in prison three times and keeps coming back.”

OK...now should she call INS, or what? Or should she ship her dd to mexico?

Help me out here?

I’m just a damned Yankee and I don’t understand.


12 posted on 04/24/2010 6:24:54 PM PDT by jocon307 (It's the spending, stupid.)
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To: mdittmar

Hey, Juan, what was that McCain-Kennedy bill about, anyway? Can you remember back that far?


13 posted on 04/24/2010 6:26:46 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Outlaw Woman

http://www.jdforsenate.com/

JD Hayworth for Senate


14 posted on 04/24/2010 6:26:50 PM PDT by Pelham (Obamacare, the new Final Solution.)
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To: Pelham

I wish I could vote in AZ. As it is I can only give to JD. It is time for McCain to fade. (I have other destinations in mind for McCain but...)

Praying very hard for Hayworth.


15 posted on 04/24/2010 6:33:57 PM PDT by Outlaw Woman (Control the American people? Herding cats would be easier.)
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To: mdittmar
Maybe McCain just needs more time . 30 years or so may not be enough time to draft a bill to close the border .
16 posted on 04/24/2010 6:45:46 PM PDT by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it , freedom has a flavor the protected will never know F Trp 8th Cav)
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To: mdittmar

The whole tone of the article has the stench of the media carrying McCain’s water. They do not want J.D.


17 posted on 04/24/2010 6:51:58 PM PDT by Buckeye Battle Cry (Enjoy nature - eat meat, wear fur and drive your car!)
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To: mdittmar
McCain’s border stance sits just fine with 60-year-old Patricia Patterson, a concierge. “I was on the fence about a few things, and then I saw him shift away from amnesty and that brought me back to his side,” she said.

Juan hopes large numbers of Arizonans are equally as easy to hoodwink as this lady. This is pathetic really, that people such as this can influence the political direction of our nation.

Yeah, lady, you let Juan get past the August 24th primary vote and you'll see just how he's "shifted away from amnesty".

18 posted on 04/24/2010 7:07:27 PM PDT by Will88
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To: mdittmar

70% of Arizonans support the new law. Hopefully they’ll do America a favor and retire McLame.


19 posted on 04/24/2010 7:07:32 PM PDT by rae4palin (RESIST--REPEAL--IMPEACH)
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To: All

“I haven’t had a chance to look at all the aspects”

Look at these aspects Juan-
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20 posted on 04/24/2010 7:09:43 PM PDT by Old Flat Toad (Pima County, home of the single vehicle accident with 40 victims.)
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To: mdittmar

I have him, on tape say, NO AMNESTY. NO AMNESTY. I’m working hard for JD.


21 posted on 04/24/2010 7:10:00 PM PDT by Hildy (Going to McDonald's for a salad is like going to a whore for a hug.)
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To: Outlaw Woman

I want you to know that we are working very, very hard for JD here. I live in Mohave County, which is EXTREMELY conservative. I have not met ONE McCain supporter, except for those active in the party..and they all have their various personal reasons.

I’m working really hard to get people registered. This county could put JD in the Senate.


22 posted on 04/24/2010 7:11:59 PM PDT by Hildy (Going to McDonald's for a salad is like going to a whore for a hug.)
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To: mdittmar

Too bad Johnnie Come Lately McCain took so long to realize the damage that is being done by illegals. Not just to the country, to the countryside, and to the people, but to LEGAL immigrants and to Americans of latino origins.


23 posted on 04/24/2010 7:15:12 PM PDT by McGavin999 (Have you donated to Free Republic yet? If not you are a Freeploader)
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To: Hildy

Bless you Hildy! Good luck...many prayers are with you.


24 posted on 04/24/2010 7:28:50 PM PDT by Outlaw Woman (Control the American people? Herding cats would be easier.)
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To: I see my hands

>> Got a sec to worry about anti white feeling in this country?

“Nativists” like you should “just shut up”....


25 posted on 04/24/2010 7:35:57 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: Gene Eric

**“Nativists” like you should “just shut up”...**

AMERICA FIRST AND ALWAYS

Nativist ...YOU”RE DAMNED RIGHT!!!

And EFFING PROUD OF IT.

shut up?? I THINK NOT!!!


26 posted on 04/24/2010 7:52:39 PM PDT by gwilhelm56 (To anger a Conservative, Lie to them. To anger a Liberal, tell them the TRUTH!)
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To: mdittmar
McCain responded, “I am worried about anti-Hispanic feeling in this country ...

I'm concerned about the anti-American citizen feeling in this country, especially from politicians.

McCain is a sack of crap. Did anyone ask him about those $50 an hour jobs to pick lettuce?

27 posted on 04/24/2010 7:58:13 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: mdittmar

Shut up McCain.

Just shut up.

Palin repaid your single right move in full. Now go away.


28 posted on 04/24/2010 8:00:06 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (2012: Repeal it all... All of it!)
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To: gwilhelm56; I see my hands

>> “Nativists” like you should “just shut up”...

A McCain/Graham montage.


29 posted on 04/24/2010 8:03:25 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: mdittmar

No one who is against illegal immigration in AZ should vote for McCain if he can’t say that he fully supports the bill. What annoys me about McCain is his claim now and during the 2008 election primary that he never supported amnesty, and that he viewed illegal immigration as only a national security issue. He said things like, anything less than deporting them is considered amnesty, and no one could think that we could round up 12+ million people and deport them. He did support amnesty, because Jeff Sessions had an amendment that asked for those who had been flagged for deportation by judges to be deported, and McCain along with the rest of them voted against this. McCain used the same tactics with the immigration bill that Obama used with health care. He shut out the opposition from the discussions, and I think they negotiated with La Raza. McCain wanted to ram this through just like Obama did with health care. With health care Obama said that it’s either this or the status quo, and McCain said the same with the immigration bill. McCain criticized Obama for not listening to the American people with health care, yet during the immigration debate, McCain said that he wasn’t going to take a position based on a majority opposing him. He never cared about border security after 9/11, and is only doing this now, because he’s facing JD Hayworth. After the amnesty bill failed, he didn’t do anything to get the fence built, even though he pretended during the immigration debate of 2007 that he was disappointed that only a few miles had been built. With the 2007 immigration bill, McCain kept saying that the illegals would be required to go back to their country of origin in order to get to the back of the line. How could they get the illegals to go back to Mexico for citizenship, but not deport be able to them? None of his strict proposals would have been enforced. It would have been amnesty. Tom Tancredo would not have been disliked by McCain if McCain was the way he is campaigning now.


30 posted on 04/24/2010 8:03:48 PM PDT by Politics4US
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To: mdittmar

It’s not YOUR decision Jaun...

You were elected to represent the voters of your state, not what you think should be done!


31 posted on 04/24/2010 8:08:03 PM PDT by Randy Larsen ( BTW, If I offend you! Please let me know, I may want to offend you again!(FR #1690))
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To: mdittmar
he said border problems need to be addressed not only for citizens here but for immigrants, who aren’t protected under American laws and are preyed upon by criminal elements.

Well, why is that, Senator? The Fourteenth Amendment requires that all PERSONS within the jurisdiction of the States be protected equally by the laws. Not citizens, but persons.

But, as usual, John McCain pretends that the Fourteenth Amendment doesn't exist. If he acknowledged it, he'd have to admit that the same protection applies to all the little persons in the womb as well.

32 posted on 04/24/2010 8:16:43 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (I don't believe in athiests.)
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To: Randy Larsen
You were elected to represent the voters of your state, not what you think should be done!

While that's certainly true, he's first and foremost elected to defend and uphold the Constitution of the United States.

33 posted on 04/24/2010 8:18:21 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (I don't believe in athiests.)
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To: mdittmar

McShamnesty is for border enforcement.....right up until his reelection.


34 posted on 04/24/2010 8:26:58 PM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: mdittmar

This horse’s ass, doesn’t have any idea what’s in the bill?

What topic does he think is of more importance these days? Why wouldn’t he know what is in it, unless he couldn’t give a damn about getting immigration under control?

One more reason why this hind end needs to be turned out of office. What a jerk.


35 posted on 04/24/2010 8:42:24 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Be still & kneel before the know-nothing Omnipotent One, Il Douche' Jr., may fleas be upon him.)
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To: reefdiver
Want to be elected? Citizens want secure borders, should be easy. I could do it. You could as well. You don't need a lot of positions. A common sense one will do it. Then do it. And then leave.

Man, you're really ringin' my bell.

I agree with you that all a person needs to do to get elected today, is to correctly gauge the mood of the people, then build their campaign along the lines of what the people really need and want.

There's no doubt whatsoever that the people want the southern border closed, and for the illegals to go home. In fact, I'd say that if you polled the American people on it, they'd be in favor of a 10 year moratorium on all immigration - legal and otherwise.

We need to assimilate the legal immigrants we have here now, and that takes time. To continue to allow a foreign culture to come in at the rate they're doing, is to commit national and cultural suicide.

36 posted on 04/24/2010 8:49:08 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: EternalVigilance

You disagree with the bill?


37 posted on 04/24/2010 8:50:28 PM PDT by Politics4US
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To: Politics4US

No. I disagree with John McCain’s false assertion.


38 posted on 04/24/2010 9:01:40 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (I don't believe in athiests.)
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To: EternalVigilance

The people who are against the bill are using that as the reason.


39 posted on 04/24/2010 9:12:53 PM PDT by Politics4US
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To: Politics4US
The Fourteenth Amendment makes the necessary distinction between citizens and persons. John McCain consistently fails to recognize those distinctions. His stated policies give citizenship rights to illegal invaders while neglecting to fulfill his sworn duty to protect the unalienable rights of all persons. (Through his failure to recognize the personhood rights of the child in the womb.)

Section. 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

40 posted on 04/24/2010 9:16:50 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (I don't believe in athiests.)
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To: Politics4US

They’re certainly not using what I’m saying as the reason.


41 posted on 04/24/2010 9:18:13 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (I don't believe in athiests.)
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To: EternalVigilance

Yeah, I wasn’t sure from your from post.


42 posted on 04/24/2010 9:29:48 PM PDT by Politics4US
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To: McGavin999

That point should be driven home by all legal immigrants of the modern era at every town-hall.


43 posted on 04/24/2010 9:34:24 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: Politics4US

As usual, McCain has everything backwards.


44 posted on 04/24/2010 9:35:17 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (I don't believe in athiests.)
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To: Hostage

This “Patricia” is the most typical Arizonan out there. That’s why we are doomed.


45 posted on 04/24/2010 9:59:18 PM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: McGavin999

McPain hasn’t changed his stripes, but the people of AZ so want to be deceived again by him.


46 posted on 04/24/2010 10:00:53 PM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: Gene Eric

Gene - WHY are you attacking him? What did he write that was wrong??? Sound like to me he was talking to mccain - telling him it’s about time to worry about the anti-white sentiment in this country. What’s wrong with that?


47 posted on 04/24/2010 10:03:00 PM PDT by jackibutterfly ( Palin is so under obama's skin, he hears 'Hail to the Chief' when he sees her.)
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To: jackibutterfly; I see my hands

>> Gene - WHY are you attacking him?

Definitely not attacking Ismh.

It wasn’t that long ago that McCain was branding the average American (often White) as “Nativists”. A frustrated Graham would tell us to: “just shut up”. Figured I’d cue up those pearls and replay for Ismh.


48 posted on 04/24/2010 10:36:19 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: Politics4US

Listen..anybody who will vote in the primary knows this about McCain. I truly think he’s going to lose...unless JD does something REALLY stupid...


49 posted on 04/24/2010 10:57:21 PM PDT by Hildy (Going to McDonald's for a salad is like going to a whore for a hug.)
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To: EternalVigilance

I prefer to look up Jefferson or Madison’s explanation of any or all parts of our Constitution. We certainly don’t need the opinion of third party/Keyes remora.


50 posted on 04/25/2010 6:39:49 AM PDT by jla (Obama & Co. vs. Jefferson & Madison - my money's on the latter)
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