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Parents Not Happy With T.I. School Visit (principle's rude Bush insulting note to parents)
http://www.11alive.com ^ | 4/21/2010 | Jayne Watson

Posted on 04/23/2010 7:55:33 AM PDT by Jack Black

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To: drb9

We simply need to regain local control of the schools and eliminate the US department of education.

Getting rid of public schools and relying on private and homeschooling is a nice fantasy but would in reality end with millions of kids getting no education at all. Parents too stupid to homeschool and too poor to send them to private school would damage society.

Regaining local school control would end with some districts failing but they need to fail anyway. Parents in the failing districts would send their kids to sucessfull districts if they care.

More power to the homeschoolers and private schoolers for making that choice but they should be able to opt out of paying for school millages.


21 posted on 04/23/2010 8:29:03 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: All

Ever wonder why certain communities are dying?
Actually, it’s a slow form of suicide...


22 posted on 04/23/2010 8:37:01 AM PDT by Maverick68 (w)
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To: drb9

When my daughter was a junior in high school, she said to me one one evening: “Guess what I learned in school today? I learned how to put a condom on a banana.” While it bothered me, I had enough confidence in her moral upbringing that, other than grossing her out, it would not have a negative impact on her character.

Today she is a good Christian married to a wonderful man, and I am fairly confident that she has never needed to apply that lesson.


23 posted on 04/23/2010 8:37:12 AM PDT by rwa265 (Christ my Cornerstone)
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To: drb9
Can you imagine the administrative burden of giving parents the ability to opt their kids out of various activities?

Not really. Stick 'em in a room with a textbook, give 'em an essay to write...? What's the big deal? Besides, if enough parents are opting out of "various activities" that it becomes some kind of burden for the school, it might clue them in that those activities are not desired by the people who are footing the bills, and perhaps they should scale back on said activities.

Now there's a novel idea!

25 posted on 04/23/2010 8:41:50 AM PDT by workerbee (Yes, I hate Obama because of his color: RED!)
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To: Jack Black

I’d yank my kid out of that school. Sorry, Mr. Principal, my child is not available for any more of your indoctrination.


26 posted on 04/23/2010 8:43:32 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Jack Black
Why do Obama supporters always trumpet the imagined, or at least unsubstantiated, history of George Bush's cocaine use as if it's some sort of disqualifier, when Obama actually admits to his cocaine use in his autobiography by Bill Ayers?

I guess it's one of those things (like gay sex, rape, tax evasion and treason) that only Democrats are allowed to engage in.

27 posted on 04/23/2010 8:46:52 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Jack Black
I think that one of the previous posters is correct... kids being able to pick and choose which assemblies to attend would be an administrative nightmare.

However - a note to the parents about scheduled assemblies, isn't out of line (maybe a 1st of the month-type thing?). If parents are serious about keeping their kids out of an assembly, they can handle arrangements to keep their kids home for a day.

And this principal was WAY out of line with his response. This clown needs to go, pronto. Politics aside, it was utterly and completely inappropriate for a formal inquiry.

28 posted on 04/23/2010 8:52:30 AM PDT by wbill
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To: drb9
I let my kids learn what the school teaches them, and give them a broader or different perspective as situations warrant.

So you'd be happy as a clam if they brought in a homosexual male stripper? That certainly would provide a "different perspective".

29 posted on 04/23/2010 8:55:06 AM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: drb9
Nonsense...the “various activities” can be offered, and parents who desire their kids to get lectures from HIV activists, environmentalists, and ex-cons, ect....can sign them up for attending the (preferably after-school) speech.

Why put parents and kids on the spot, in front of their friends, to “be the only one” to stay out of a particular assembly?

It's because the school knows most parents don't want the aggravation, or to make their child feel somehow different or an outcast.

And the school knows that most parents would not bother to sign kids up for a special lecture on some social issue, if they had the choice.

30 posted on 04/23/2010 8:56:08 AM PDT by roses of sharon (I can do all things through Him who strengthens me. Philippians 4:13)
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Are you for real? Do you have any idea what your kids are being taught....PARENTS need to keep their eyes on the school and what is being shoved down their children’s throat in the name of education. My child would have been taught that it was okay to write to a dragon and tell the dragon it’s feelings if we, as parents did not step in. She would also have been taught that parents do not have final authority over them...because the dragon said they could do what they want...so long as they felt good about doing it. It is called outcome based education...no absolutes...no right or wrong.

My child would have had Harry Potter and witch craft shoved down her throat...if I didn’t say anything. (her 4th grade teacher 9 who, BTW had no control over her class) thought Harry Potter was a good thing.

My child, who is now a senior had very little knowledge of American or world history...because the school now teaches social studies in it’s place. I have had to educate her on my own, at home. For heaven’s sake...why wouldn’t a senior not know when WWII was or the Civil War?

Leaving it all up to the school is dangerous. My daughter was not allowed to say anything about God in her school...yet they made her sit through and American Indian assembly that was drenched in their concept of mother Earth Father Sun...without me knowing it until it was all over.

I may be a pain in the butt to the school up on the hill, but my child is there on loan...I expect them to teach her well...but that hasn’t always been the case. I don’t want her coming home damaged...and BTW there are only 2 kids in her class that hold conservative points of view.


31 posted on 04/23/2010 8:58:05 AM PDT by leenie312
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To: Jack Black

Or better yet, give the good Dr. a shout!

Terry.Oatts@henry.k12.ga.us


32 posted on 04/23/2010 9:00:23 AM PDT by Vasilli22
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To: Jack Black

There is not one shred of evidence that GWB ever used cocaine. There are accusations, but not from anyone who was with him when he (allegedly) did it. Our current president, however, wrote about his own drug use in his book. The propaganda machine lies so often that even people who disagree with their bias believe lots of the lies they put out.


33 posted on 04/23/2010 9:02:35 AM PDT by Freee-dame
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To: drb9
I let my kids learn what the school teaches them, and give them a broader or different perspective as situations warrant. They’re doing just fine.

Me too. It helps my kids' critical thinking skills. They're going to be exposed to stuff with which I don't agree all their lives. I see it as an opportunity to teach them to begin questioning everything and forming their own opinions, rather than just take everything from an authority figure as gospel. My oldest daughter and I have lots of good conversations on things she heard in school, and she's beginning to form her own arguments against what the teacher is trying to spoonfeed her.
34 posted on 04/23/2010 9:02:42 AM PDT by VegasCowboy ("...he wore his gun outside his pants, for all the honest world to feel.")
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To: drb9

“doing fine” is a momentary observation. Consider the long haul.


35 posted on 04/23/2010 9:03:39 AM PDT by SgtHooper
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To: wbill
No, if the school wants to offer a social issue speaker it should be AFTER-SCHOOL, then the parents who wanted their kids to attend could sign them up. Or even during school, and the majority kids could stay in class and learn, and the parents who want their kids to listen to the social issue lecture could sign them out of class.

This “opt-out” stuff is designed to make the kids uncomfortable and different to get mandatory attendance to social engineering.

36 posted on 04/23/2010 9:07:12 AM PDT by roses of sharon (I can do all things through Him who strengthens me. Philippians 4:13)
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To: pnh102
I don’t agree with the parents’ views of W

That nasty smear wasn't from the parents - it was from the so-called school principal.

37 posted on 04/23/2010 9:30:09 AM PDT by hsalaw
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To: Terry Mross

The biggest problem today with public schools is the quality of students that are tracked into the education field, at most colleges the calibre of students going into the teaching field is right at the bottom.


38 posted on 04/23/2010 10:14:43 AM PDT by mapmaker77
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To: roses of sharon
Either of your solutions are excellent, as well.

None of our ideas will be implemented, because 1) they make sense. 2) they might make more work for some Associate Assistant to an Administrative Admin.

I've been touring some schools. (We're also thinking of homeschooling and private schools ....we're keeping all options open).

I couldn't get over the size of the staffs at the schools I visited. Every classroom had at least one teacher, and at least one assistant. Many had multiples. Now, in some of the special ed classes, or one-on-one sessions, I could see where that made sense. But when I was a kid, there were 30 kids to a class, with one teacher. Now, it looked to be 15-20 kids to a "classroom" ... with plenty of adults there. Wondered if it was a competency type thing (one good teacher in my day = 2 mediocre ones now) or what?

Don't get me started on the number of admins. Hell, the K-5 schools had "guidance counselors" for "conflict resolution". Why? How does a 9-year-old need "conflict resolution"? "I'm the adult, you're the kid. Do this, or you won't like the end result" strikes me a fine balance of power.

39 posted on 04/23/2010 10:15:13 AM PDT by wbill
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To: pnh102

That wasn’t the family’s view that is what the Principal emailed back to them. He should be fired for that, IMHO.


40 posted on 04/23/2010 10:44:01 AM PDT by chris_bdba
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