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Jury rules nurse didn't violate rights of woman barred from partner's room
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| 04/21/10
| Jennifer Sullivan
Posted on 04/21/2010 7:45:48 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3
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To: TornadoAlley3
Why didn’t these women have each other on the list of people allowed to see them in the hospital? I have to keep a card in my wallet to let my pastor come to visit me, otherwise they won’t let him in. Everyone can do this, are they just so freaking stupid as to not know this?
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posted on
04/21/2010 7:48:33 PM PDT
by
Secret Agent Man
(I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
To: TornadoAlley3
“Hulley, a 32-year-old who has since returned to her home state of Tennessee, was accused in the lawsuit of being determined to keep the lesbian couple apart because of homophobia. “
What, “homophobia” is now a legal term??
I knew it had made its way into the DSM-IV (Psychological Manual) as an authentic disorder. But now it is considered a legal term also?
We have gone beyond sanity.
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posted on
04/21/2010 7:49:39 PM PDT
by
Reddy
(B.O. stinks)
To: TornadoAlley3
But the defense claimed Reed, 71, upset her partner JoAnn Ritchie and interfered with her care as the woman fought for her life...same old story - can't face the fact that she was the problem, so blamed the nurse for some fancied prejudice and insensitivity to avoid accepting responsibility.....
To: Secret Agent Man
She was on the list, but she upset the patient too much. Nurse's responsibility is to care for the patient.
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posted on
04/21/2010 7:59:38 PM PDT
by
TornadoAlley3
(Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
To: Intolerant in NJ
And everyone wonders why there’s a nursing shortage....
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posted on
04/21/2010 7:59:42 PM PDT
by
LaineyDee
(Don't mess with Texas wimmen!)
To: TornadoAlley3
The jury should have awarded Judy a square yard of shag carpet.
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posted on
04/21/2010 8:04:04 PM PDT
by
Rembrandt
(.. AND the donkey you rode in on.)
To: LaineyDee
There’s no nursing shortage, just a shortage of nurses who want to work in environments like this.
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posted on
04/21/2010 8:06:42 PM PDT
by
Sioux-san
To: Secret Agent Man
Maybe you should try suing for religious discrimination. I’m sure the ACLU would back you completely. /s
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posted on
04/21/2010 8:11:11 PM PDT
by
Julia H.
(Freedom of speech and freedom from criticism are mutually exclusive.)
To: Sioux-san
Amen and that’s the truth!! I spent 30 years doing nursing and I hope I earned my Angel Wings for it. I sure put up with some dysfunctional situations and that cost me a lot over the years.
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posted on
04/21/2010 8:12:31 PM PDT
by
JouleZ
(You are the company you keep.)
To: TornadoAlley3
Obama is asking the Health and Human Services secretary to begin the process of putting in place federal rules to ensure that hospitals respect the rights of patients to designate visitors. The order covers hospitals receiving Medicare or Medicaid. Well I guess there is no reason at all for hospitals to take Medicare or Medicaid patients any longer.
It is a money looser and it comes with way to many strings.
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posted on
04/21/2010 8:12:32 PM PDT
by
Pontiac
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To: Secret Agent Man
That wasn't the issue ~ it was simply about the administration of care. The nurses' job was to make sure the care was provided. The visitor wanted to take off the other woman's breathing mask.
It usually never occurs to the GLBT crowd that sometimes it's not about them and their pudenda.
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posted on
04/21/2010 8:18:48 PM PDT
by
muawiyah
("Git Out The Way")
To: Sioux-san
True.... The burnout factor is high. Good nurses who actually care... generally have to leave the profession early to save their own sanity/health.
The only thing I could think of while reading this story is the nurse having to go through this circus to keep her license and integrity....not to mention the financial hardship it caused her.
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posted on
04/21/2010 8:22:35 PM PDT
by
LaineyDee
(Don't mess with Texas wimmen!)
To: Secret Agent Man
As a nurse, my duty is to protect and promote the health of my patient. If I see my patient’s O2 level is dropping to a dangerous level because the client is taking off their mask to speak to a visitor, I would say to the visitor “Ms. Doe needs to keep the mask on at all times, please encourage her to do so”. If the opposite happens, I am kicking them out, even if they have permission to be there. We are not there to treat the visitors, but the patient.
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posted on
04/21/2010 9:25:59 PM PDT
by
brwnsuga
(Black and Free!!!)
To: TornadoAlley3
Given that, it’s totally reasonable they kicked her out.
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posted on
04/21/2010 9:48:18 PM PDT
by
Secret Agent Man
(I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
To: brwnsuga
You are 100% right. Our duty is to the patient not pussy footing around obnoxious family members and friends...I politly asked many people to leave and come in one at a time not 10 at a time to talk to a patient that wasn't up to that many visitors....Only had one or two really put up a stick but the head nurse put them in their place pretty quick...10 Years of hospital work was quite enought for me..retired to be a goat herder...Lots of burn out in nursing if one really cares about their patients...
Some doctors can be a pain in the arse also..some are great..You lose real quick automatic respect for them and that to know the good ones from the jackass's..
To: goat granny
Pretty clear that, whatever mistakes this nurse may have made, this was not about a 71yo woman having a female significant other, as if “keeping them apart” is going to change their relationship on her deathbed.
That said, and granted we don’t have all the details - if I’m at death’s door and I want to talk to someone important to me I don’t want the nurse to make that impossible in the name of patient safety or to prolong my life by a few more minutes. There are few things more tragic than how we isolate the dying from their friends and families.
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posted on
04/21/2010 11:06:52 PM PDT
by
freebirth
(If ignorance is bliss that could explain why I'm depressed.)
To: freebirth
Just something for you to think about, sometimes nurses run interception for patients that have stated they don't want so and so to visit more that 5 minutes...(have had this with a patient) I entered the room and ask the visitor to leave so patient could get some rest...its not about family, sometimes the patient makes the rules on their own visitors....When a person is weak and not up to too many visitors, they can suck the life (metaphorically) out of the patient...plus for some visitors its party time with conversations inappropriate for visiting someone ill in the hospital...Doctors also leave orders on patients visitors...its not cut and dry as you seem to think...don't want to offend you just stating some facts you may not be aware of...
To: goat granny
No offense taken, GG, and I have frequently run interference for my patients when they have let me know that certain visitors’ interactions with them aren’t going to be exactly therapeutic. That’s different than how we chase folks out when their loved one takes a turn for the worse.
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posted on
04/21/2010 11:55:36 PM PDT
by
freebirth
(If ignorance is bliss that could explain why I'm depressed.)
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