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Kentucky Right to Life: Re: Senate Candidate Rand Paul’s Questionnaire (someone is being dishonest)
Kentucky Right to Life - Press Release ^ | April 21, 2010 | Kentucky Right to Life

Posted on 04/21/2010 5:22:57 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat

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To: AmishDude
Did you acknowledge fax #1 or did you accuse the insurance company of making up the fax and insisting that fax #2 was what you sent all along? We have always been at war with Eurasia.

I'd certainly be offended if I had corrected my omissions, and the insurance company pretended that I had not.

And I'd certainly argue that my corrected copy was the copy I'd expected the insurance company to use, because a corrected copy should supercede an incomplete original.

And it does, at least with my insurance company.
Perhaps not with KyRTL.

61 posted on 04/21/2010 9:51:16 PM PDT by Christian_Capitalist (Taxation over 10% is Tyranny -- 1 Samuel 8:17)
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To: AmishDude

You have found that Ron Paul supporters are dishonest? I suppose you haven’t met many of his supporters then. Sounds to me you’re just throwing a blanket statement out there because you don’t like Paul.


62 posted on 04/21/2010 10:13:46 PM PDT by Redbird1564
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To: Republican Wildcat

I may just boycott the Republican Primary. Bill Johnson dropped out and we’re left with nothing but crap.


63 posted on 04/21/2010 11:25:10 PM PDT by TheThinker (Communists: taking over the world one kooky doomsday scenerio at a time.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj; Republican Wildcat

Gosh, I wonder which party isn’t being truthful.

I suspect the Paul camp will place the blame on a low-level staffer.


64 posted on 04/22/2010 12:30:28 AM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN | NO "INDIVIDUAL MANDATE"!!!!!!!)
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To: Redbird1564; Christian_Capitalist

Look at “Christian_Capitalist” for intellectual dishonesty.


65 posted on 04/22/2010 1:22:03 AM PDT by AmishDude
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To: Christian_Capitalist

Rand Paul did not correct the record with KRTL. He did it with the media and they nailed him.

I guess KRTL has to go under the bus. They’ve uncovered Paul’s duplicity. I was willing to give Paul the benefit of the doubt and ascribe it to incompetence. But if the designated concern troll says KRTL is a bête noir, then I think there’s some real guilt there.


66 posted on 04/22/2010 1:33:14 AM PDT by AmishDude
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To: AmishDude
Rand Paul did not correct the record with KRTL. He did it with the media and they nailed him. I guess KRTL has to go under the bus. They’ve uncovered Paul’s duplicity.

Or somebody's secretary mis-filed something, and the respective parties went unaware of the discrepancy between their copies until it came into dispute.

Office mistakes do happen.

I was willing to give Paul the benefit of the doubt and ascribe it to incompetence.

(Shrugs). No you weren't.

But if the designated concern troll says KRTL is a bête noir, then I think there’s some real guilt there.

No, you don't. You say you do, but it's just bluster on your part.
Fact is, you're just grasping at straws as Rand Paul cruises to victory.

You'll say whatever you think is necessary to try to get something to "stick", but nothing will. So this is what you're reduced to carping about.

Ho hum.

67 posted on 04/22/2010 1:52:57 AM PDT by Christian_Capitalist (Taxation over 10% is Tyranny -- 1 Samuel 8:17)
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To: AmishDude; Redbird1564
Look at “Christian_Capitalist” for intellectual dishonesty.
65 posted on Thursday, April 22, 2010 1:22:03 AM by AmishDude

Unsurprisingly, he's reduced to personal attacks.

I will answer only by saying that, while I actually am a Christian, and actually am a Capitalist -- "AmishDude" isn't even honest in his choice of screen name. Not only is he not Amish, he's not any sort of Christian believer at all.

His screen name is intended only to invoke a sense of good, wholesome, Midwestern Christian traditionalism... in which he's not actually a believer at all.

I have no interest in attempting to determine whether or not he's actually a "Dude".

68 posted on 04/22/2010 1:59:52 AM PDT by Christian_Capitalist (Taxation over 10% is Tyranny -- 1 Samuel 8:17)
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To: Impy
Gosh, I wonder which party isn’t being truthful. I suspect the Paul camp will place the blame on a low-level staffer.

I suspect that nobody will be blamed, because I suspect that the Paul campaign isn't really going to care that much about an office discrepancy.

With the new Jim Bunning endorsement, the new Sarah Palin pro-Rand Paul ads, and the latest polls showing Rand maintaining a 15 point lead into the final stretch, I don't think that the Rand Paul campaign is really in much of a blaming mood.

Intrade is now quoting "Rand Paul to Win" contracts at over 90%. He's virtually got it in a lock. All that Rand Paul has to do is keep up the same thing he's always been doing -- meet with the local folks, answer their questions, fire some automatic weapons with them -- and he's got the Win.

And he's polling very strongly against the Democrats, which means we've got a good chance of keeping the Senate seat safely GOP in the Generals.

69 posted on 04/22/2010 2:25:13 AM PDT by Christian_Capitalist (Taxation over 10% is Tyranny -- 1 Samuel 8:17)
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To: ansel12

Ron Paul supporters are backing Rand Paul. The difference between father and son is six in one hand and half-a-dozen in the other.


70 posted on 04/22/2010 2:42:56 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper ("Ked Tennedy would have been plowed... I mean, proud today..." - Senator Max Baucus (Drunk-MT))
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To: Redbird1564

Most of the Paul supporters are college kids or aging hippies. Ron Paul comps his supporters by paying their bus fare and convention admission wherever he’s speaking, just to fool loyal television news viewers into thinking he’s really popular.


71 posted on 04/22/2010 2:50:58 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper ("Ked Tennedy would have been plowed... I mean, proud today..." - Senator Max Baucus (Drunk-MT))
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To: AmishDude
Third, if he can’t manage this, will he take the time to read bills carefully?

If he did, it would make him unique. None of our Congress Critters read these bills.

That begs to question, "Who is writing them?".

72 posted on 04/22/2010 5:55:02 AM PDT by Retired COB (Still mad about Campaign Finance Reform)
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To: nkycincinnatikid
Norther Ky Right to Life is Kentuckys original right to life organization. It has endorsed Dr Rand Paul.-nkycincinnatikid [emph. mine]

The fact that it was 'original' may or may not be technically true, but this is a classic attempt from the Paul organization to deceive voters (and well-meaning pro-life freepers) because you left out a few highly pertinent details.

In fact, the Kentucky Right to Life Association which was the victim of another one of Rand Paul's infamously slippery attempts at political jujitsu here is the official chapter aligned with the National Right to Life Committee (click on Kentucky to see for yourself).

The Northern Kentucky Right to Life organization which has endorsed the Paul family's politics, on the other hand, is a fringe group which has been very publicly repudiated by the Roman Catholic diocese in their area for deceptive practices & misrepresenting their position.

I encourage all freepers to do their own research & find out for themselves that Rand Paul is NO friend to those who are on the front lines fighting for the protection of civil rights of the unborn.

73 posted on 04/22/2010 6:02:13 AM PDT by leilani
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To: Christian_Capitalist
(Shrugs) No you weren't.

Check out my first post on the thread. Go ahead, I'm sure Axelrod pays you by the hour.

74 posted on 04/22/2010 6:13:44 AM PDT by AmishDude
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To: Christian_Capitalist
You're just mad that I pointed out the Axelrod tactic of coming on message boards as "concerned Conservative Christians" and working for Democrat ends.

So like most Internet trolls, you try to make it about me and, like most Democrats, you attempt moral equivalence. The hilarious thing (apart form knowing where the Midwest is and where Amish generally reside) is that you don't get the joke of the nick.

You'll have to excuse me. The cows need milking and it's hard to do without electricity.

75 posted on 04/22/2010 6:23:14 AM PDT by AmishDude
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To: Christian_Capitalist
"AmishDude" isn't even honest in his choice of screen name. Not only is he not Amish, he's not any sort of Christian believer at all.

Amish Dude has an established record across the right side of the internet for very effectively advocating ideologically conservative positions and for uncovering lefty trolls masquerading as "Christian Capitalists" for well over a decade.

You however, have only been around for a couple of months mostly fomenting division & advocating that conservatives splinter apart & render themselves impotent in the voting booth to leave the playing field free for the leftist government to continue it's efforts at socializing the US economy unimpeded.

I'm quite sure the DNC and Obama's "Organizing For America" which encourages its leftist members to adapt 'conservative' sounding screennames such as "Christian Capitalist" and join right-leaning forums to foment discord & which is orchestrating much of the contrived support for Rand Paul online today would dearly love for Republicans to nominate him - that's their only hope of picking up under the radar a seat most people assumed was safe for conservatives in the fall.

76 posted on 04/22/2010 6:32:01 AM PDT by leilani
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To: AmishDude
You're just mad that I pointed out the Axelrod tactic of coming on message boards as "concerned Conservative Christians" and working for Democrat ends.

(Shrugs). Actually, I've just noticed that you don't like attention being called to your denial of Christianity -- despite your use of a screen name associated with a traditionalist Christian denomination.

So, I figure I'll point it out, whenever you attack your opponents' honesty. Fair play, that is.

77 posted on 04/22/2010 7:12:07 AM PDT by Christian_Capitalist (Taxation over 10% is Tyranny -- 1 Samuel 8:17)
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To: leilani
Amish Dude has an established record across the right side of the internet for very effectively advocating ideologically conservative positions and for uncovering lefty trolls masquerading as "Christian Capitalists" for well over a decade.

Puh-leeze.

A quick gander at just the first page of his posting history shows few positive comments about any Republican, other than Rudy Giuliani.

Rudy Giuliani? Really?

Somehow I don't think that this "AmishDude" is quite the tireless and omnipresent crusader for conservatism you want to claim he is.

You however, have only been around for a couple of months mostly fomenting division & advocating that conservatives splinter apart & render themselves impotent in the voting booth to leave the playing field free for the leftist government to continue it's efforts at socializing the US economy unimpeded.

Au contraire. I'm pleased to see Third Parties supporting Rand Paul, precisely because it means that the Conservative vote won't be splintered between the GOP and the Third Parties. In Rand Paul we have a candidate who not only attracts the support of far more Kentucky Republicans than his opponent, but also the 3rd Party Conservatives who could otherwise splinter the vote.

I'm quite sure the DNC and Obama's "Organizing For America" which encourages its leftist members to adapt 'conservative' sounding screennames such as "Christian Capitalist" and join right-leaning forums to foment discord & which is orchestrating much of the contrived support for Rand Paul online today would dearly love for Republicans to nominate him - that's their only hope of picking up under the radar a seat most people assumed was safe for conservatives in the fall.

Actually, far more Kentucky Republicans support Rand Paul, than support Trey Grayson; every recent independent poll confirms this fact.

And that's all to the good, since the polling evidence is that Rand Paul polls strongest against the Democrats, also.

The fact is, you simply don't want a Paul to win this seat -- even if that Paul is the strongest of the two candidates against the Democrat.

But guess what? We're going to win this seat. Senator Rand Paul.... get used to it.
(Smiles)

78 posted on 04/22/2010 7:36:38 AM PDT by Christian_Capitalist (Taxation over 10% is Tyranny -- 1 Samuel 8:17)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

What matters most is who the Kentucky voters support, I don’t know why you support Trey Grayson, but church going, pro-life, conservative Kentucky Republicans do not.

Paul leads Grayson among pro-lifers by a 50%-32% margin. Grayson leads Paul among pro-abortion Republicans by a 42%-27% margin.

“Conservatives favor Paul by 51 percent to 29 percent with 16 percent undecided. Those who attend religious services regularly or occasionally favor Paul by double-digit margins. Gun owners back Paul 48 percent to 22 percent with 22 percent undecided.”

Rand Paul leads by double digits among men and women, among conservatives, pro-life voters, gun owners.

“Grayson leads today only among the 1 in 5 Republican primary voters who say they are pro-choice.


79 posted on 04/22/2010 7:39:22 AM PDT by ansel12 (Romney-"I longed in many respects to actually be in Vietnam and be representing our country there")
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To: Christian_Capitalist; leilani; ansel12

Thank you, leilani. I note that our resident theological financial mastermind neglected to do the courtesy of pinging me.

For a Christian, he seems also to have no more understanding of various sects and strains of Christianity than one can obtain from Wikipedia. Indeed, the distinctive features of the Amish seem to elude him.

I strongly suspect that C_C will go dormant after May 18. His job will be done — one way or another — and he will have to post under another screenname as an anti-Paulestinian who is suddenly “concerned” about the records of Rand & Ron Paul.

OK, I’ll give it away.

The problem for C_C is that he’s too good. His use of HTML is meticulous, his rate of posting is very high and he is very good at changing the subject and not responding to inconvenient inquiries.

Note what he chooses to respond to and what he chooses not to respond to.

There are other tells as well, such as repetition in posts, attacking the messenger, long well-organized, quickly-written posts and being selective about authorities whom he quotes.

C_C is an experienced forum poster, especially using HTML, and is part of a coordinated effort. He is in no way acting like a person giving his honest opinion or a mere zealot. Compare him to ansel12. ansel12 is a genuine supporter and comes off as honest, even if I think he’s misguided.

I think C_C has been here before under a different name. Very few forums use HTML like FreeRepublic and for most posts (like this one) the system doesn’t require it. But posting paragraphs, italics and hrefs does require HTML skill.

HTML isn’t hard to learn, but it’s annoying to keep using. Trust me, I know. Your casual newbie won’t take the time — certainly not posting at the rate C_C does.


80 posted on 04/22/2010 8:17:52 AM PDT by AmishDude
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