Do you really fax? Really? In this day and age?
You keep trying to make this analogy to documents you faxed and then faxed corrections. I think this is the better analogy to what Rand Paul did:
Posted on 04/21/2010 5:22:57 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
First, are living in 2002? Who faxes anymore?
Second, you might be living in 1984 if you think that it’s appropriate to simply erase the old fax from history. “Oops, I made an error” is perfectly appropriate.
Third, if he can’t manage this, will he take the time to read bills carefully, will he pay attention to constituents’ concerns?
At best — at best — he made a mistake and tried to cover it up by pretending it never happened.
Or...or he lied on the form and decided that his first answers weren’t good enough.
Incompetent or deceitful — you can have both with Rand Paul.
I've sometimes noticed omissions on documents I have faxed, corrected the omission, and then re-faxed the document. Shockingly, this sort of moral depravity happens in office environments all over the country.
But, you're right. This is literally the best argument that you have against him.
Congratulations. You've done it. This will certainly help Grayson to win the election. I advise you to spend all your time and energy crowing about Rand Paul's lack of secretarial skills.
Run with it.
Do you really fax? Really? In this day and age?
You keep trying to make this analogy to documents you faxed and then faxed corrections. I think this is the better analogy to what Rand Paul did:
-—”That’s it?
Palin endorses Rand Paul for Kentucky Senator, Trey Grayson goes out of his way to trash Sarah Palin, and that is your witty take on it?”-—
It is because Palin endorsed Rand Paul (and a couple of interviews I heard him in) that I was behind him (to be honest, I probably still prefer him to Grayson even NOW).
My comments weren’t meant to be witty. Grayson saying Palin isn’t qualified is, by comparison to what I see at FR and elsewhere from MOST Ron Paul supporters, mild by comparison.
However, because I think there is a chance Rand Paul could ultimately back Palin (after Daddy drops out) in 2012, I still favor him over Grayson - who will almost certainly endorse good friend Mitt Romney.
But TRY and tell me that Ron Paul supporters aren’t looking at Rand as the nepotistic heir to the “Paul for President” brigade. It the mini-me version of the Bush dynasty in the works.
They endorse based on a candidate’s positions on the issues, not on someone’s polling data as to who may or may not be supporting them at any one time - that is completely irrelevant, and you know that. Besides which, that is not the primary issue here - it is whether or not Rand Paul produced a phony document and released it to the press to smear Kentucky Right to Life. This is about integrity and honesty.
We can’t be driven by the Ron Paul crowd, let them bray.
Occasionally as they go to far, they get banned (ChrisAR went away the other day), and I imagine that if they ever become a problem again like they did in 2007 for a while, then there may be some effort to drive some of them off again.
The Kentucky race has to stand on it’s own, it is a statewide race and the more that I have learned about Trey Grayson, the more I came to see him as someone that needs to be kept out of that Senate seat.
Your comments do not address anything in regard to the actual issue here about this scandal - did the Rand Paul campaign knowingly and intentionally produce a falsified document and release it to the press to smear Kentucky Right to Life (or vice versa)? Whether or not Rand Paul is 100% Pro life or 100% pro abortion is no longer the issue with regard to this - it is about integrity.
Okay, so he doesn’t think Sarah Palin is qualified to President. Fine. How would that excuse the production and release of a false document on the part of Rand Paul to slander Kentucky Right to Life, if that is indeed what he has done?
You’re absolutely right. Ronald Paul, Inc. needs to pass the gauntlet to son Randall and he needs to hold elected office so that he can run for president every four years under the Ronald Paul brand.
Your games aren’t going to work this time anymore than they have on other threads. That’s not the issue - not whether he sent an appropriate fax - it’s whether he has now produced and sent out a falsified document different from the original one that was sent to the press to defame Kentucky Right to Life to cover up his own error. That’s the issue. Not his ability to fill out forms appropriately - it’s integrity. And it is believeable that Rand Paul would do something like this given his problems with being truthful in other instances - like for example claiming he’s always supported keeping Gitmo open and military tribunals - something that was clearly not his position until Trey Grayson started criticizing him for wanting to close it down.
You misunderstood my point, I was wondering how the proabortion Republicans, the pro-life Republicans, and the KRTL could see things so differently.
KRTL endorses Trey Grayson as the more anti-abortion, pro-life candidate, yet the only voter group that he gets support from is the moderate, pro-abortion voters.
Rand Paul gets the support of the actual pro-life voters and the church goers, and the conservatives, and the only real group that does not support him are the pro-abortion, primary voters.
I do agree that the issue is whether question 9 was actually Xed, although I’m not sure this is earth shattering yet, until we learn more.
Yeah, as I said before: Grayson might actually be the biggest reason to support Rand Paul in this race (though Palin’s endorsement is right up there, too).
Grayson stinks of a “Gang of fourteen” type Republican.
I’d rather a potential Libertarian leaner than a potential RINO.
Once again, that is not the issue. This is about the apparent intentional production and release of a false document to the press to smear and cover up - not about a "typo." Are you really this clueless or just trying to distract from what this is really about, being the loyal propagandist for Rand Paul that you are?
Believe it or not, it's not impossible that Rand Paul himself or someone on his staff noticed the omission, corrected the error, and then re-faxed the document.
Office mistakes do happen.
I think “libertarian” is just a cloak of the Paul crowd. They really are Buchananites — at least, what animates them, which is foreign policy. Or, more specifically, the lack thereof.
I think it’s pretty clear that Kentucky Right to Life doesn’t want to endorse Rand Paul because he is outside the Republican establishment.
I send and receive up to 10 or 20 faxes a day. Just because it is old technology doesn’t mean that it isn’t still useful and convenient.
If I was in KY, I’d vote for Paul. If I was in Texas, I’d vote for his father. I don’t agree with Ron on everything, but I can’t find a republican that is perfect.
Sure.
As a matter of fact -- it took me two faxes to my Insurance company's back office, just last year, to add my new wife on as beneficiary to one of my life insurance policies.
See, I inadvertantly left some omissions on the document when I first faxed it in.
And then, upon noticing them a few days later, I corrected the omissions.
And then, I re-faxed the document.
True story.
Do you really fax? Really? In this day and age?
I consider Tron cutting-edge, you new-tech heretic scum.
I run my difference engine on a steam turbine.
Did you acknowledge fax #1 or did you accuse the insurance company of making up the fax and insisting that fax #2 was what you sent all along?
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