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Illegal alien wins defamation case for being called a 'criminal' – set back for 1st Amendment
Examiner.com Chicago ^ | April 20, 2010 | Kimberly Dvorak

Posted on 04/20/2010 9:07:43 AM PDT by bcsco

An illegal-alien day laborer who attacked a U.S. photographer at a notorious San Diego day labor site in 2006, was awarded $2,500 in damages for "defamation per se" by Judge Ronald Styn in a non-jury trial in San Diego Superior Court.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Culture/Society; Government; Mexico; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: aliens; alienscashingin; illegalalien; illegalimmigration; illegals; immigrantlist; immigration; justicenotserved; mexico
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To: Pollster1

Maybe we could just call them THUGS!!


21 posted on 04/20/2010 9:20:27 AM PDT by chicagolady (Mexican Elite say: EXPORT Poverty Let the American Taxpayer foot the bill !)
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To: chicagolady

Got this from your Facebook post. I left a comment there that I was posting this here. Thanks for the heads up...


23 posted on 04/20/2010 9:20:54 AM PDT by bcsco (Obama: Hokus Pokus POTUS)
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To: bcsco

Please see my tagline!


24 posted on 04/20/2010 9:21:38 AM PDT by Batman11 (Sarah Palin: "Illegal immigrants are called illegal for a reason!")
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To: bcsco

American citizens have been attacked at almost all anti illegal alien rallies. Now, they’ll feel they have free reign to continue their violence .... and get rewarded for it.
The world is upside down.


25 posted on 04/20/2010 9:21:52 AM PDT by AuntB (WE are NOT a nation of immigrants! We're a nation of Americans! http://towncriernews.blogspot.com/)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

Even though mostly the left tends to use ‘immigrant’ rather than ‘illegal’ immigrant, I’ve heard both left and right politicians differentiate between “criminal” illegal aliens and non-criminal illegal aliens. Looks like the progressive left was successful in deciding the conversation language for all of us.

ALL illegal aliens are criminals.


26 posted on 04/20/2010 9:22:00 AM PDT by Kimberly GG ("Path to Citizenship" Amnesty candidates will NOT get my vote!)
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To: bcsco
First he's an ILEGAL-alien.

Next he attacks a photographer.

Wouldn't those 2 things qualify him as a criminal?

27 posted on 04/20/2010 9:22:47 AM PDT by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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To: AuntB
Now, they’ll feel they have free reign to continue their violence .... and get rewarded for it.

They want to attack me, they'll get rewarded for it. Not the way they want, however. I'll give 'em a little lead, a little brass, to go along with the silver in their buckle.

28 posted on 04/20/2010 9:23:37 AM PDT by bcsco (Obama: Hokus Pokus POTUS)
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To: tatsinfla

So any criminal can now sue his victim if he is accused?

Somebody needs to the next time a conservative is labeled ‘racist.’


29 posted on 04/20/2010 9:24:04 AM PDT by tsomer
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To: bcsco; Revolting cat!

He assaulted a man and then resented being called a criminal. Then he found a trial lawyer.

John Edwards lives!


30 posted on 04/20/2010 9:24:05 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (We've gone from phony soldiers to phony conservative protesters. Nothing about liberalism is genuine)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

How does a defamation law suit affect free speech?


31 posted on 04/20/2010 9:24:07 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: antidemoncrat

It is pretty easy to spot Progressive Judges. They always seem to ignore the Constitution and rule of law.

These judges are becoming absurd. I think in order to be judge you need psychological testing to see if you are sane or not. But it is San Diego and most who live there need testing.


32 posted on 04/20/2010 9:24:27 AM PDT by Bitsy
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To: Thud

You will just love this.


33 posted on 04/20/2010 9:24:33 AM PDT by Dark Wing
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To: antidemoncrat

Wonder if the judge would feel the same about someone who broke into his house and assaulted him?

Why live in a gated community in a nation with open borders?

Open ALL borders, you man in a dress!


34 posted on 04/20/2010 9:25:20 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (We've gone from phony soldiers to phony conservative protesters. Nothing about liberalism is genuine)
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To: bcsco

This is the type of ruling that destroy respect for the legal system. Even the left should be concerned if large numbers of citizens decide that justice cannot be obtained through the courts.


35 posted on 04/20/2010 9:25:21 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: bcsco
If I was practicing, I'd be appealing this faster before you can say Jack Robinson.

1. There are statutes against illegal immigration.
2. Those who violate penal statutes are commonly referred to as "Criminals"
3. Calling someone a "criminal" can also be used as an insult which usually isn't covered by defamation law.

36 posted on 04/20/2010 9:25:50 AM PDT by Darren McCarty (I don't look for leaders. I follow my own path, my way.)
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To: bcsco; Ladycalif; Pollster1

The verdict is outrageous, but the article provides fair coverage of this circus:

“After a lunch break the defense called Jimenez to the witness stand, but Jimenez still had not arrived in court 4 1/2 hours after the start of the trial.

Gilleon then claimed that “Jimenez’ wife was having surgery and he could not attend the trial that day.” Judge Styn was clearly tired of the excuses, however he allowed the trial to continue. It became clear the real reason Jimenez could not come to the trial was because he was not eligible to enter the country legally from his home in Tijuana, Mexico.

Schwilk again asked Judge Styn for a directed verdict, but again the judge declined...

Schwilk said, “I knew at that point the fix was in. This was so obviously a charade by Dan Gilleon and his La Raza employers...Judge Styn played right along with La Raza’s devious plan.”
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Schwilk...also pointed out again that Jimenez was an illegal alien and had obviously broken laws by entering the U.S. illegally.
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Asked about the verdict, Schwilk said, “Judge Styn not only ruled against our protection of free speech, he is attempting to de-criminalize illegal aliens and the crimes they commit on American soil. Styn is yet another example of a bad judge attempting to legislate from the bench.”

Fellow San Diego Minuteman Barry Shipley observed the entire 5-hour trial and agreed.

“The judge completely ignored the court testimony that Jimenez was a criminal illegal alien and that the truth is a defense in a defamation case. Judge Styn should be removed from the bench,” Shipley explained. “He is a danger to our American Constitutional rights”.


37 posted on 04/20/2010 9:26:18 AM PDT by Canedawg (I'm not digging this tyranny thing.)
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To: bcsco

2. Defamation Per se

Some statements are so defamatory that they are considered defamation per se; and the plaintiff does not have to prove that the statements harmed his reputation. The classic examples of defamation per se are allegations of serious sexual misconduct; allegations of serious criminal misbehavior; or allegations that a person is afflicted with a loathsome disease. The historical examples of loathsome diseases are leprosy and venereal diseases. Allegations that a person is afflicted with AIDS may well constitute a modern variation on this form of defamation per se.

When a plaintiff is able to prove defamation per se, damages are presumed, but the presumption is rebuttable.


38 posted on 04/20/2010 9:26:37 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: bcsco

However, the questionable judgment aside, this has nothing to do with the first amendment which has never covered defamation.


39 posted on 04/20/2010 9:28:04 AM PDT by Darren McCarty (I don't look for leaders. I follow my own path, my way.)
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To: bcsco
I think I agree with the judge if this is what defamed him


40 posted on 04/20/2010 9:30:08 AM PDT by Raycpa
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