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Laser strike on JFK-inbound jet
New York Post | 4/17/2010 | Post Staff

Posted on 04/18/2010 8:29:36 AM PDT by Menehune56

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To: ml/nj

Ha!

That sophisticated computer tracking and control is otherwise known as hand eye coordination. Have you ever heard of diffraction and reflection? the laser is going to light up the glass and bounce around off of shiny stuff. And what makes you think a person with a laser has to be standing directly under the plane?


21 posted on 04/18/2010 9:40:40 AM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: ml/nj

Are you kidding me? If you can see any windows at all, you can hit them with a laser...and that means laser light inside the cockpit.


22 posted on 04/18/2010 9:43:26 AM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: ml/nj
"These laser-in-the-eyes-of-a-pilot strike me as BS."

Me too.

Last fall, my brother-in-law was playing in his yard with his grandkids about 9 PM. He was shining a green laser pointer at structures about 1/2 mile away, where I was. It illuminated about all of a house at a time, bathing it in a slightly greenish light. Looking at the laser from 1/2 mile away caused no discomfort at all.

You gotta assume these 'civil use' lasers are pretty harmless...kids get hold of them all the time.. and when have you read about injuries sustained at short range, let alone a mile or two away?

23 posted on 04/18/2010 9:49:17 AM PDT by diogenes ghost
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To: ml/nj
afraid not:

1.pilots fly standard departures and arrivals off of approach plates, which is publicly available information (the Jeppesen variety, anyway). reading one will tell you where an aircraft will be, at what altitude, and roughly what time, on an approach.

2. ATC conducts business on an unsecured vhf radio, and that pilots are instructed by tower to report/confirm landing configuration at the final approach fix, a point in space that is defined very clearly on an approach plate.

3. airplanes fly in knots (indicated, and otherwise), not miles per hour, although i will grant you that 150 is pretty close; it's all relative to landing data.

4. it's becoming increasingly standard to wear these in military aviation (depending where you are): http://www.flickr.com/photos/peosoldier/3882298084/

5. oh, and i’ve been lazed.

24 posted on 04/18/2010 9:56:30 AM PDT by alvin_platinga
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To: ml/nj

I guess all these geniuses here know more than the homeland security department and airline safety experts who have already provided warnings regarding this issue.


25 posted on 04/18/2010 10:00:02 AM PDT by StolarStorm
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To: Menehune56

200mw green laser pens sell for about 40.00

You are not supposed to be able to buy them in the US but people probably still obtain them.

These are very dangerous and not to be confused with 5mw green lasers. They can cause instant vision damage if an idiot looks directly at the beam.

Pointed at a cockpit a few miles away the spread out light beam would be very powerful.


26 posted on 04/18/2010 10:57:03 AM PDT by Bobalu (Free men are not equal. Equal men are not free.)
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To: alvin_platinga
pilots fly standard departures and arrivals off of approach plates

Gee. NSS?

Most people wouldn't need SIDs or STARs because anyone who cares knows what the regular arrival routes are in the vicinity of the airport they care about, or they can figure it out with 15 minutes of observation. These same people and the people here generally use MPH as a frame of reference, not KTS or furlongs per fortnight; so I used the language of the common man instead of someone like you who probably has 15 hours or more in your logbook.

And the radio! Wow! You can listen to ATC. If you need to listen to ATC (and you can understand it) to be able to locate a plane, then you're gonna have a pretty tough time aiming something at it without tres sophisticated equipment.

And you've been lased too! Happens every day.

ML/NJ

27 posted on 04/18/2010 10:59:12 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: StolarStorm
I guess all these geniuses here know more than the homeland security department

You're setting up the folks who are afraid to let me, someone who has been flying in and out of the same NYC airports for 50 years, carry my own tube of toothpaste onto an airplane as some sort of experts on what to be concerned about? Please!

ML/NJ

28 posted on 04/18/2010 11:02:58 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: ml/nj

No relation at all. There have been numerous laser hits on aircraft. May want to throttle down your ego a little. You’re wrong on this one.


29 posted on 04/18/2010 12:47:21 PM PDT by StolarStorm
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To: StolarStorm
No relation at all.

Then why did you bring it up? If you think there's anything but bravado in the DHS that the public is aware of, you are sadly mistaken.

ML/NJ

30 posted on 04/18/2010 12:57:09 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: ml/nj

Sigh.... why bother.


31 posted on 04/18/2010 1:03:41 PM PDT by StolarStorm
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To: StolarStorm
Hey! Thanks for playing!

I'm both a pilot and someone with science degrees. I do know what I am talking about.

ML/NJ

32 posted on 04/18/2010 1:10:18 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: ml/nj

Yes, and your ego and arrogance are getting in the way of recognizing the evidence. Have fun.


33 posted on 04/18/2010 1:51:05 PM PDT by StolarStorm
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To: StolarStorm
your ego and arrogance

You left out knowledge and experience. They count too, maybe not in an Obama World, but they do with me and most FReepers I would guess.

ML/NJ

34 posted on 04/18/2010 2:21:54 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: Menehune56
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/laser_strike_on_jfk_inbound_jet_BDzIELszJEYuUr8wSouotO
35 posted on 04/18/2010 5:03:24 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: ml/nj
Get yourself a 50x power telescope. Go out near some airport (preferably one with some commercial jet traffic as us gnats only approach at 80 MPH or so) and see if you can ever see into a cockpit or view a pilot's face. Then come back and report to us.

I do not think that is the point he was making. But maybe we should just let everybody shine their laser pointers at airliners at the same time, which should make for some very "pretty" landings. Duh.

36 posted on 04/18/2010 6:00:43 PM PDT by PackerBoy (Just my opinion ....)
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