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John Jay College Accused of Bias Against Noncitizens (demanding proof of work eligibility)
New York Times ^ | April 16, 2010 | Nina Bernstein

Posted on 04/17/2010 4:32:51 AM PDT by reaganaut1

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To: reaganaut1

Wait a minute. the immigration act, Simpson-Mazoli, requires all employers to do that, and penalizes those who don’t. So, they are being sued for complying with the law?


41 posted on 04/18/2010 5:14:24 AM PDT by Daveinyork
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To: reaganaut1

Oh, the HORROR!


42 posted on 04/18/2010 11:49:50 AM PDT by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL (****************************Stop Continental Drift**)
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To: skully
Hey these Noncitizens have Non-Constitutional rights!!

Unless they are terrorists. Terrorists from all over the world have Constitutional rights according to this administration.

43 posted on 04/18/2010 2:07:45 PM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government)
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To: nmh; Bryanw92
If they cheat on their wife,... - they will cheat YOU ...

I have heard that old canard for years and it simply is not true. At best it is an oversimplification. Are you saying that if a person ever commits one sin he is guilty of them all forever? That would make the life of Jesus a rather empty gesture, wouldn't it?

What was the original sin of which we are all permanently stained? I consider it to be self-awareness, for eating the fruit from the Tree of Knowledge made Adam and Eve aware of self and of the good and evil which resides within them. Therefore, self-awareness or selfishness or self-centeredness or self-serving or what ever, are inescapable whether one is a Christian or not. Ayn Rand was simply advising that we use that part of ourselves rationally and called it enlightened self-interest.

Do you really believe an atheist cannot have good ideas? If an idea is a good one shouldn't we heed it? If a person has lived under Communism and takes the trouble to warn others of the dangers therein, even if she were a prostitute or Madame, shouldn't we heed them or at least see what they have to say? Was Einstein a Christian? (I really don't remember.)

IMHO, you preach folly.

44 posted on 04/18/2010 2:46:21 PM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government)
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To: Mind-numbed Robot

“If they cheat on their wife,... - they will cheat YOU ...”

I have heard that old canard for years and it simply is not true.

hmmm ... I suppose Clinton, Johnson, Kennedy, the “Breck Girl” etc. are trustworthy and reliable people.

It’s amamzing how I could list ENDLESS examples, and people like you refuse to get it.

Believe what you wish.

Character matters.

You don’t leave your house as person “A” and go to work as person “B”. You are one and the same person at home and work. Those that get to know you, can attest to it.


45 posted on 04/18/2010 3:41:02 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: Mind-numbed Robot
Was Einstein a Christian? (I really don't remember.)

Einstein was Jewish. He turned down several requests to become prime minister of Israel.

As to the rest of your argument, I disagree. Cheating on a spouse reveals something about the inner character of a person. Basically, it reveals that there's no such thing as a promise they won't break if it becomes convenient to do so. The vow of fidelity is also one of the easiest ones to keep. Nobody is going to hold a gun to your head and force you to cheat on your wife. You don't get into money trouble and have to cheat on your wife. You cheat on your wife because a couple of hours of self-gratification is more important to you than a vow made before God and to another person.

I don't know if you remember, but about twenty years ago a lady made a speech to the Republican National Convention. She had AIDS because her husband had contracted the virus during homosexual encounters and brought it home to her. Anytime a man cheats on his wife, he's risking giving her all the diseases he's exposing himself to. He doesn't do it for money or any other reason than his own self-gratification. You cannot trust such a man.

46 posted on 04/18/2010 3:53:17 PM PDT by Richard Kimball (We're all criminals. They just haven't figured out what some of us have done yet.)
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To: reaganaut1

Is that really a crime? Where and how?


47 posted on 04/18/2010 6:55:59 PM PDT by jeffc (I now live in National Socialist America)
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To: Richard Kimball; nmh

You guys have taken one statement of my post and stretched it beyond reason while ignoring the rest. I am not advocating infidelity. I simply said that A (cheating on wife) does not necessarily lead to B (cheating someone else). I know of a number of cases and a number of guys who have occasionally cheated on their wives but consider a handshake agreement as binding as one signed, notarized and filed at the courthouse. You can cite all the examples you want and I can match you tit for tat. A does not automatically equal B, period! I agree with all your arguments in favor of being faithful and I highly recommend it but infidelity does not invalidate ones life nor make one an untrustworthy devil.

nmh was blasting Ayn Rand and anyone who recommended her ideas, simply because she was an atheist. Do you agree with that, Richard? If you have one false belief does that invalidate all other ideas you might have?

My question about Einstein should have been whether or not he believed in God. Regardless, I am sure there are atheists who work in the areas of quantum physics, software development, medicine and many other fields. Is all their work invalidated by their atheism?

You guys need to find a street corner from which to evangelize. Logic is not your forte.


48 posted on 04/20/2010 4:56:21 AM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government)
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