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After the Fort Hood shootings, a Muslim American soldier battles on friendly ground
Washington Post ^ | March 24, 2010 | William Wan

Posted on 03/24/2010 7:17:16 PM PDT by Dinah Lord

At 2 o'clock on a Monday morning, the sound of angry pounding sent Army Spec. Zachari Klawonn bolting out of bed.

THUD. THUD. THUD.

Someone was mule-kicking the door of his barracks room, leaving marks that weeks later -- long after Army investigators had come and gone -- would still be visible.

By the time Klawonn reached the door, the pounding had stopped. All that was left was a note, twice folded and wedged into the doorframe.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: forthood; fthood; islam; jihad; muslim; muslimamericans; muslimtroops; stealthjihad; terror; usarmy
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A classic case of the Muslim as Professional Victim. I say - You got a beef - take it up with your fellow traveler, Major Nidal Hasan. Otherwise, toughen up Francis.

Yet ever since, he had been filing complaint after complaint with his commanders. After he was ordered not to fast and pray. After his Koran was torn up. After other soldiers jeered and threw water bottles at him. After his platoon sergeant warned him to hide his faith to avoid getting a "beating" by fellow troops. But nothing changed."

1 posted on 03/24/2010 7:17:16 PM PDT by Dinah Lord
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>> “F-— YOU RAGHEAD BURN IN HELL” read the words scrawled in black marker.

Hey, at least the author was polite. I’m not sure I would have had that much self-control.

Muslims are vermin and should be treated accordingly.


2 posted on 03/24/2010 7:20:13 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Eat more spinach! Make Green Jobs for America!)
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I'd be surprised if there weren't at least some decent moslems in this country and that some of them have found their way into the military.But given what we now know to be the nature of the Religion of Pieces it could well be wise for all moslems to be excluded from the Armed Forces for the time being.
3 posted on 03/24/2010 7:23:39 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Host The Beer Summit-->Win The Nobel Peace Prize!)
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Holy mackerel, that’s a pretty damned fancy room in the “barracks.” Looks like a luxury hotel to me. When I was an enlisted man, we slept in bunks with a footlocker at the bottom.

Also, when I was in the army, the whole purpose of basic training was to toughen you up but also to make you drop your old background and conform to the new one with your squad mates. No prayer rug on the floor, no special treatment, no special privileges. You eat what you’re fed or go hungry.

The whole problem in a nutshell is this: “Before he enlisted, the recruiters in his home town of Bradenton, Fla., had told him that the Army desperately needed Muslim soldiers like him to help win the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.”

No, the army DOESN’T need Muslims. Not unless they are willing to conform like everyone else.


4 posted on 03/24/2010 7:25:06 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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You know what bugs me?

The constant caterwauling, mewling and professional victimhood that the Muslims engender. If he stood up and fought back as AN AMERICAN - these problems wouldn’t be happening.

The problem is: for a Muslim being AN AMERICAN always takes a backseat to being a Muslim and that is why Islam is incompatible with the American ideal and spirit.

It’s never going to work...


5 posted on 03/24/2010 7:25:57 PM PDT by Dinah Lord
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“When I was an enlisted man, we slept in bunks with a footlocker at the bottom.”

Did you walk to school uphill both ways in 3 feet of snow both too?


6 posted on 03/24/2010 7:27:33 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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>> ...The constant caterwauling, mewling and professional victimhood that the Muslims engender.

It’s just another weapon in their arsenal.

The day Muslims in significant numbers stand up and loudly denounce the murderers among them — and back it up by turning them in — is the day I’ll soften my stance.

Until that day, as far as I am concerned, there are only two kinds of muslims: murderers, and accomplices to murder.

I’m not holding my breath for change.


7 posted on 03/24/2010 7:29:15 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Eat more spinach! Make Green Jobs for America!)
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Boo Hoo, Boo Hoo. Just emotive drivel. What is the point of this article? Oh yeah we should allow our nation to be destroyed because Habib is just a great guy.


8 posted on 03/24/2010 7:31:41 PM PDT by Altura Ct.
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But given what we now know to be the nature of the Religion of Pieces it could well be wise for all moslems to be excluded from the Armed Forces for the time being.

I had that same thought - IMO translators should be held separate from the Armed Forces. Remember the recent threat at Ft Jackson.

I have to profess ignorance as to whether German Americans or Japanese Americans served during WW2. Hmmm. Now I have to go look it up.

9 posted on 03/24/2010 7:32:14 PM PDT by Dinah Lord
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The problem is: for a Muslim being AN AMERICAN always takes a backseat to being a Muslim and that is why Islam is incompatible with the American ideal and spirit. It’s never going to work...

No better words have ever been spoken!

10 posted on 03/24/2010 7:32:49 PM PDT by JD91
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To: Dinah Lord

Cry me a freekin’ river!


11 posted on 03/24/2010 7:33:51 PM PDT by Candor7 (Now's the time to ante up against the Obama Fascist Junta ( member NRA))
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To: Cicero

You raise ANOTHER good point, Cicero.

The other thing that really bugs me about Muslims in America:

The SPECIAL TREATMENT they demand.

P.S. And I thank you for your service. :^D


12 posted on 03/24/2010 7:34:08 PM PDT by Dinah Lord
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"Muslims are vermin and should be treated accordingly."

It's amazing. Every time a Muslim mass murderer kills innocent Americans the press digs up Muslims who wring their hands and claim they are being persecuted and attacked No retaliation in that respect has occured in this country. If it had Olberman and Matthews would be on about 24/7 not to mention Obama. These people make me ill.

13 posted on 03/24/2010 7:36:45 PM PDT by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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It’s just another weapon in their arsenal.

They use our system against us - and we LET THEM! PC run amok.

The day Muslims in significant numbers stand up and loudly denounce the murderers among them — and back it up by turning them in — is the day I’ll soften my stance. Until that day, as far as I am concerned, there are only two kinds of muslims: murderers, and accomplices to murder.

Moderate Islam is a MYTH - and I join you in your hardline stance.

Until they become AMERICANS first and not Mohammedans first...they can forget it in my book.

14 posted on 03/24/2010 7:38:45 PM PDT by Dinah Lord
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Did you walk to school uphill both ways in 3 feet of snow both too?

Haha. That tickled me. When I was a kid my Uncle Jake told me he ice skated from Lake Milton (in Ohio) to Niagara Falls to go to school. He was a big kidder.

15 posted on 03/24/2010 7:40:32 PM PDT by Dinah Lord
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The only question is whether or not the military actually needs muslims in its ranks. They need translators and people who understand the enemy’s religion but beyond that...

Also, it’s completely unfair to ask the survivors of Fort Hood to respect muslims. Islam has never brought anything but death and misery into the world and they experienced it first hand.


16 posted on 03/24/2010 7:42:51 PM PDT by Soothesayer (The United States of America Rest in Peace November 4 2008)
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I have to profess ignorance as to whether German Americans or Japanese Americans served during WW2. Hmmm. Now I have to go look it up.

I'm certain that Americans of Japanese extraction served during WWII.There are at least a couple of documentaries on that subject that I've seen.What I saw suggested that they served bravely and admirably.I *think* I recall that they were deliberately assigned to Europe rather than the Pacific but I can't swear to that.Never heard anything either way about Americans of German extraction.

17 posted on 03/24/2010 7:46:10 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Host The Beer Summit-->Win The Nobel Peace Prize!)
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...it could well be wise for all moslems to be excluded from the Armed Forces for the time being.

Well, FDR did that with U.S. citizens of Japanese origin and never got any flack for it. Eventually they were allowed to fight in Europe, where their units received the highest honors for valor.

Your recommendation makes sense, as it would avoid problems like the one documented in the story, even though I am suspicious of the source (WaPo)!

That won't happen in today's PC environment, as I am sure any intelligent FReeper can surmise. And the vile name calling in the first two posts (and likely more to follow) make me ashamed to be associated with those particular posters. Vulgar, unjustified displays of animosity toward individual Muslims does NOT amount to patriotism! Nor to common decency.

18 posted on 03/24/2010 7:50:00 PM PDT by ARepublicanForAllReasons (Give 'em hell, Sarah!)
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Locked down in their battery building, soldiers gleaned details through text messages, e-mail and news alerts.

There is something more than a little ironic in the military experiencing a "lock down" because of a shooting.

19 posted on 03/24/2010 7:56:38 PM PDT by RobinOfKingston (Democrats, the party of evil. Republicans, the party of stupid.)
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To: ARepublicanForAllReasons

1) Unjustified? Hardly.

2) My comments weren’t about patriotism. They are about self-preservation. Muslims as a group ARE vermin. They prove it daily.

You’re entitled to your opinion, and I’m entitled to mine. The facts seem to bear me out, but maybe you’re not into common sense. Maybe you enjoy seeing innocent soldiers murdered by muslims in your back yard. Or perhaps it’s OK to lose innocent civilians minding their own business to terrorists, as long as it’s just a few thousand. And you can always look the other way when 99.99999% of the muslim scum refuse to denounce the murderers among them — or do you want to argue that point as well?

You have your view, I have mine. Sleep on it.


20 posted on 03/24/2010 7:57:44 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Eat more spinach! Make Green Jobs for America!)
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