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Army drops bayonets, busts abs in training revamp (Army revamps basic training)
ajc.com ^ | March 16, 2010 | By SUSANNE M. SCHAFER

Posted on 03/16/2010 4:35:47 PM PDT by rawhide

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To: ansel12; rawhide

The Crossfit Insurgency (How the Army learned about the benefits of Crossfit style training)

http://www.crossfit.com/journal/library/47_06_CF_insurgency.pdf


21 posted on 03/16/2010 5:16:15 PM PDT by Thunder90 (Fighting for truth and the American way... http://citizensfortruthandtheamericanway.blogspot.com/)
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To: ansel12

Yeah.

Seems to me the british have been notorious for using up a lot of their own soldiers in bayonet charges over the last century.


22 posted on 03/16/2010 5:27:43 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: ansel12
Well thanks for that! I imagine a bunch of screaming Scotsmen with fixed bayonets would be intimidating, as well as deadly!
23 posted on 03/16/2010 5:33:24 PM PDT by allmendream (Income is EARNED not distributed. So how could it be re-distributed?)
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To: Thunder90

I have been doing crossfit for 2 years now. It’s a great training methodolgy providing you have good trainers. The owner of our gym is Recon vet. He’s in Irag now on contract and has a makeshift gyn overthere now...

I’m at a fitness level now that is better than when I was 25 and that was 20 years ago!. It’s not the be all, end all of fitness methodolgies but it’s effective. I’ve seen many an ego crushed in the middle of a workout.


24 posted on 03/16/2010 5:35:10 PM PDT by Ribeye (Protective head wear courtesy of Reynolds Aluminum Products- Extra-cranial RF Suppression Division)
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To: ansel12

I won’t argue with your points about the use of bayonets in Iraq, but let’s be serious here . . . the bayonet, for all intents and purposes, was shown to be obsolete as a military weapon as far back as the Civil War!


25 posted on 03/16/2010 5:43:55 PM PDT by Alberta's Child (God is great, beer is good . . . and people are crazy.)
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To: rawhide

I seem to remember bayonet training had also been dropped during the mid to late 1970’s only to be brought back in the 1980’s.


26 posted on 03/16/2010 5:43:58 PM PDT by fso301
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To: rawhide; robomatik

bmflr


27 posted on 03/16/2010 5:47:23 PM PDT by robomatik (III%)
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To: rawhide

Lost in all this was the comment that schools no longer require PT. Start raising wimps early and you will dilute the warrior mentality.


28 posted on 03/16/2010 5:55:38 PM PDT by pfflier
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To: Alberta's Child
the bayonet, for all intents and purposes, was shown to be obsolete as a military weapon as far back as the Civil War!

How could it be obsolete since the Civil War if it continues to be used in every war as an irreplaceable tool of last resort, and as an irreplaceable tool called a knife? If anything it should be better designed so that soldiers are not driven to carry multiple knives.

There is no reason that the military could not design a popular combat knife that could double as a bayonet.

29 posted on 03/16/2010 6:08:18 PM PDT by ansel12 (Social liberal politicians in the GOP are easy for the left to turn, why is that?)
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To: Alberta's Child

There was a bayonet charge down Henry Hill that was darn successful.


30 posted on 03/16/2010 6:12:23 PM PDT by bushpilot1
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To: rawhide
I'm fine with dropping bayonet training, but I hope the don't intend to quit issuing the M-9 bayonet.

When deployed, you can barely live without it.

Loved it so much that I bought one after I got out.

31 posted on 03/16/2010 6:20:21 PM PDT by AAABEST (Et lux in tenebris lucet: et tenebrae eam non comprehenderunt)
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32 posted on 03/16/2010 6:25:18 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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“... it was advantage to have big soldiers
who could make good use of the bayonet,
but nowadays the cannon does everything
and the infantry often cannot get to grips with cold steel...”

- Frederick the Great


33 posted on 03/16/2010 6:36:01 PM PDT by bushpilot1
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“I wanted to put the fear of God into the enemy. I could see some dead bodies and eight blokes, some scrambling for their weapons. I’ve never seen such a look of fear in anyone’s eyes before. I’m over six feet; I was covered in sweat, angry, red in the face, charging in with a bayonet and screaming my head off. You would be scared, too.”

Corporal Brian Wood
Princess of Wales’s Royal Regiment


34 posted on 03/16/2010 6:51:37 PM PDT by bushpilot1
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To: rawhide
A good blade and training in its use is still very important in CQB:

Well proven, versatile and it inspires both confidence in its user and fear in the enemy...;)
Less than US$40.00 ea. Such a bargain. Cheaper in bulk order.
35 posted on 03/16/2010 6:51:51 PM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus)
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To: fso301
"I seem to remember bayonet training had also been dropped during the mid to late 1970’s only to be brought back in the 1980’s."

After digging a 70s era AR15 out of the rack for examination...I must seriously wonder if the stock would still be attached to the receiver after the first butt-stroke.

36 posted on 03/16/2010 7:07:35 PM PDT by labette ( Humble student of Thinkology)
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To: rawhide

My guess the reason bayonet training is being eliminated in Basic is the female recruits. Ever see a female attack with a bayonet in basic?

I was armor. Is there bayonet training infantry AIT?


37 posted on 03/16/2010 7:18:16 PM PDT by bushpilot1
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To: Alberta's Child

Look at this, now they even make a special bayonet for general officers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWeEDrMVlag


38 posted on 03/16/2010 7:33:30 PM PDT by ansel12 (Social liberal politicians in the GOP are easy for the left to turn, why is that?)
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To: ansel12

Bayonet training is essential; if one is to become a warrior, one must learn well “the spirit of the bayonet”. It is a comforting accessory, with many uses, an excellent dagger for hand-to-hand combat, and adversaries melt before the aggressive presentation of cold steel. When I was in the Army in “Nam, I told myself that if I ever got stuck by a bayonet, it would be in the ass.


39 posted on 03/16/2010 7:46:34 PM PDT by dtrpscout (A bad dog is better than most good people.)
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