Posted on 03/15/2010 8:43:16 PM PDT by no dems
That really tells the story like it was! Beautiful!
--Jefferson Davis
Curious as to your gender and home state.....
You will find males and southern have seen the light - politics isn't going to work. It seems women, childeren and Yankees say, take it all back. Just checking.
“How about working on restoring the republic and cutout the secession BS...”
How ‘bout you showin’ some of us how to get around this otherwise?!!
The Dem-Republican Good Cop-Bad Cop con routine is the longest running, most successful play of that con anywhere in the world.
The real game is DC versus Flyover Country. It does’nt come to an end until all in Flyover Country finally get it. IMHO, they are just starting to wake up
..War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling, which thinks that nothing is worth war, is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertion of better men than himself
..may the chains of tyranny lie lightly upon you
A clear and distinct difference between the cultures of New England and the South/flyover country...
“We need a 2nd revolution, not a 2nd civil war.”
We haven’t had the first one yet-there was no civil war it was the war of northern aggression.
You can not restore the old republic without the willing cooperation of the millions of people who vote for marxists.
The ONLY way we are going to restore freedom is by gaining independence from not only the marxists in the fedgov but also the dumb a$$ M’er F’ers who vote for them. The ONLY way that is going to happen is through secession, we simply cannot jail or kill a significant enough percentage of them to make a difference (nor would I care to have that much blood on my hands).
INDEPENDENCE! WE WANT IT NOW!
Fidelity to the constitution has nothing to do with specific states and geographic areas. The constitution was a guard the founders put in place to protect what they fought for...
Liberty, freedom, independence... Fidelity to these principles is fidelity to the founders.
I have a question for all these folks that are decrying secession.
WHAT OTHER RECOURSE DO THE STATES HAVE?
The created entity of the federal government is violating, and shows NO INTENTION of honoring, the contract that created it. And what are you going to do, go to the Supreme Court? Yeah, that’s sane - go to an agent of the entity violating the contract and think you’re going to get a fair outcome.
When the states joined the union, it was with the implicit, and sometimes EXPLICIT caveat that they reserved the right to secede if the fedgov violated the conditions of joining the union.
This option was stolen away by force of arms, not by modification of the contract.
No, the founders drafted the CONSTITUTION and IT is the document that lays out the relationship between the Federal Gov’t and the people. Not some random notion of what you deem to be independence.
Yeah, right.
Im not sure how this response relates to what I said, or even the statement I was originally responding to.
Yes, the founders drafted the constitution that created a system of government that has long since been abandoned. The dried out shell is still there but the spirit of it is gone. Then again, what does that matter?
I was responding your comment "Reclaim fidelity to the constitution. Ought to be tried before breaking into 50 countries who would soon be at war with each other.
When I said...
" Fidelity to the constitution has nothing to do with specific states and geographic areas. The constitution was a guard the founders put in place to protect what they fought for...
Liberty, freedom, independence... Fidelity to these principles is fidelity to the founders."
Perhaps I didn't make myself clear enough. The meaning of my comment was that fidelity to the constitution does not mean that we must remain within the old republic that does NOT value what the constitution was drafted to protect. If we value the principles that compelled the founders to secede from Britain, fight a war and ultimately draft the constitution to safeguard the spoils of that war (freedom, liberty, natural rights)then it doesn't matter if we are no longer bound to those people and states that refuse to honor what better men fought and died for.
We can and will elevate the the principles of limited government and natural rights without them. We can and will (with a few changes to remove ambiguity)re institute the constitution as the law of the new nation. That is holding true fidelity to the founders.
Another document worthy of holding fidelity to is the "Declaration of independence".
"When, in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the laws of nature and of nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shown that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security. --Such has been the patient sufferance of these colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former systems of government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute tyranny over these states.
Let us hope that wiser heads rule—unlike what happened in 1861. Civil War is only as last option. No one whats to see American broken up to several states. See what one party and one man can do? The People have not felt the effects of his tyranny yet—they will. But, will it be too late?
Watch for this sign: When they collect the guns. When elections are canceled or fixed. When the courts are corrupted. When Free Speech is limited.
You sure about that?
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