Posted on 03/10/2010 5:06:52 PM PST by SandRat
3/10/2010 - SOUTHWEST ASIA (AFNS) -- The first and last men to walk on the moon, the commander of Apollo 13, the last Air Force pilot "Ace" and the SR-71 chief test pilot, all "Legends of Aerospace," were the honored guests of the 386th Air Expeditionary Wing March 8 at an air base in Southwest Asia.
Hundreds of servicemembers flocked to the base theater to hear the stories of Neil Armstrong, retired Navy Capt. Gene Cernan, retired Navy Capt. Jim Lovell, retired Brig. Gen. Steve Ritchie and Bob Gilliland as they made a special appearance while visiting military installations throughout Europe and Southwest Asia.
People of all ages filled in seats and lined the theater walls to listen to a 40-minute panel discussion detailing the aviators' experiences within the military and the NASA program, followed by a question and answer session.
"This visit was a dream come true," said Senior Master Sgt. Bradley Behling of the 386th Force Support Squadron. "I grew up in the era where space and technology were developing, and these men were at the center of it. Tours like this show everyone over here fighting that we aren't forgotten.
"Many of these men are in their late 70s or early 80s, yet they're flying all over the world raising morale, shaking the hands of those supporting the war-fighting effort," he said. "When Neil Armstrong comes across the globe to say thank you to you personally for the things you are doing, I don't see how anyone can feel anything but inspired to continue our mission until it's done."
During the panel discussion, moderated by "Good Morning America" pioneer David Hartman, the legends took turns sharing their experiences of triumph, lessons learned, obstacles overcome and some of the great people they met and who helped them along the way.
General Ritchie, the first Air Force ace of the Vietnam conflict after downing five MiG 21s, shared one tale in particular about what he considered to be the greatest combat mission he ever flew.
"People think the missions where we downed enemy airplanes, particularly the 8th of July when we were fortunate enough to down two MiG 21s in a minute and 29 seconds, were the greatest missions, but the greatest missions, the most meaningful missions, were the rescue missions," he said.
The general spoke about the rescue of fellow pilot, Roger Locher, who ejected over enemy lines when his aircraft was downed.
"We didn't hear from him for 22 days," he said. "We had given up. We thought he'd been killed or captured, but he never came out on the captured list like the North Vietnamese liked to publish every few days."
Then one day while General Ritchie was on a mission, the downed officer made contact with his fellow aviators.
"We were flying in that same area (where he went down) and there was a break in the radio chatter, and as a lot of you know with 20 or 30 airplanes all on the same frequency trying to talk at the same time, particularly when they're shooting at you, it gets a little busy," General Ritchie told the crowd. "So there was a break in the radio chatter and a call came over the air, 'Any allied aircraft, this is Oyster 01B.'"
The general remembered thinking that there was no "oyster" call sign that day and then it donned on him and his fellow pilots that it was Roger Locher.
"After we answered, this is exactly what he said. He said 'Guys, I've been down here a long time. Any chance of picking me up?'" recalled the general. "I don't believe I'd be that cool after 22 days, do you? We said, 'You bet.'"
That afternoon the general said his unit underwent the deepest rescue mission ever attempted. He was about 60 miles northwest of Hanoi, but the ground fire was so great that the mission had to be called off.
"We went home that night, and as you can imagine, we were very down, frustrated. This was our friend, someone we knew very well," he said. "He was on his third combat tour, over 400 combat missions. Not only did we admire and respect him greatly, but he was one of the neatest young men many of us had ever met and now we'd found him and couldn't get him out and of course now (the enemy) knew where he was and very soon he would be captured."
Fortunately, hope was not lost on the downed pilot.
"The next morning, in one of the great examples, in my opinion, of courageous combat leadership, Gen. John Vogt, the four-star commander of the 7th Air Force in Saigon ... cancelled the entire strike mission of Hanoi and dedicated all the resources, over 150 airplanes, to the rescue of Roger Locher," he said. "I'll shorten it by saying that we went in, we got him out, brought him back. General Vogt flew up in a T-39 from Saigon and was the first of hundreds of us to meet him as he stepped off that chopper after 23 days, and we had a party at the club that night that you would have enjoyed!"
The crowd applauded this and the other recollections the visitors spoke of, like making history logging more experimental supersonic flight test time above Mach 2 and Mach 3 than any other pilot, overcoming the odds and piloting the broken spacecraft Apollo 13 back to Earth, and setting foot on the moon.
"I just want to take a moment to sum up why we're all here and why we all became involved (in this tour)," Mr. Cernan said. "You know when President John F. Kennedy challenged America, whether it was to build an SR-71, go to war in Vietnam or go to the moon, those challenges ... particularly in the case of Apollo, led us to one of the greatest technological developments in recent history."
The astronaut pointed out how such advancements in technology can be found all around us.
"You don't have to go far," he said. "I mean, look at the equipment you have at your disposal. From what you fly and drive and see and talk through to the hospitals we have, it truly was a significant technological endeavor. But the technology of Apollo is obsolete once it's overshadowed by time. What we're talking about is old hat. What you have at your disposal and are using today is that new technology.
"But far more than the technological endeavor of Apollo, the response to Kennedy's challenge, was the human endeavor of the American people," he said. "The human endeavor by those who didn't know it could be done, by those who dared to dream. Was Kennedy a visionary? A dreamer? Politically astute? Probably all three I would expect. And by those who weren't afraid to fail or willing to try, and God knows we paid the price, we lost a lot of our colleagues along the way, but I think a testimonial to American ingenuity is the fact that everyone, each and every person who went to the moon, including the crew of Apollo 13, came home."
The legend's inspirational words brought the crowd to their feet with a standing ovation.
"I was honored and awed at their visit," said Sergeant Behling. "It will live with me forever."
Col. John R. Gordy II, 386th Air Expeditionary Wing commander, welcomes
retired test pilot Bob Gilliland, retired Brig. Gen. Steve Ritchie and other
"Legends of Aerospace" March 7, 2010, as they arrive at an air base in Southwest Asia.
The "Legends of Aerospace" are touring military installations throughout Europe and Southwest Asia
to share their groundbreaking aviation and aerospace experiences with servicemembers serving overseas.
(U.S. Air Force photo/Staff Sgt. Lakisha A. Croley)
Hate to say it... What would you figure was the latest possible date human feet would have been on Mars had Germany won WW-II? My own guess would be around 85 - 90, i.e. the point at which the 68030 was available and you had the compute power for it.
Sounds to me like it's not in Iraq or Afghanistan, and these guys never made it to either of those countries, as they were originally said to have been going to do.
I don't think so. If they'd won, they'd have had no need to prove how great the Aryan Supermen were. Only the "race" between the US and USSR was able to free up enough $$ to conduct the moon missions. The same would have been true of post Hitler Marks.
Notice I didn’t speculate on where the unit is, just where it is not. Y’all shouldn’t either.
Loose lips and all that.
I agree. Hitler’s interest in rocketry was purely military. Without the need for military hardware, von Braun would have been another penniless dreamer.
An earlier FR post exposed that Obama weenies would not allow these heroes to visit Kabul, and no way on forward bases. When you realize the Lovell faced bouncing off the Earth’s atmosphere into space never to return, for example- the relative danger to just one of these heroes is fairly slim compared to what they already have survived.
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