Posted on 03/10/2010 2:18:17 PM PST by Justice Department
The FBI hounded this man to death, in my opinion.
When have you EVER heard a defense lawyer say about his client “the sumb@tch did it”
Ping
Yo Sherm, the fat lady has Laryngitis
Where you at?
Wake up brother
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Evidence as I know it from this side of the computer.
2004-5-6-7 FBI looks at, discusses with Ivins, the anthrax situation.
Then they find 15 pairs of women's panties in the garbage at Ivins house. Fourteen of these have an unknown semen on them. Could be any males semen.
Then they ask Ivins for a DNA sample to eliminate him as the semen donor. Ivins knows this.
Five days later they find Ivins unresponsive on the floor of an upstairs bathroom.
So the real question is how long does it take to die from an overdose of Tylenol? I've got this question in to my EMT contact and I did see him, but he was on his way to a call, and said he would get back with me.
So how do you commit suicide with Tylenol?
Day 1...the day you find out they have taken your DNA in order to compare it with the panty semen. You take ??? how many Tylenol?
Day 2....do you feel that you might live, and then take more, and how many is enough?
Day 3....starting to feel sick or sicker? Do you take more? Did you take enough on Day 1? You can still tell the wife you have the flu.
Day 4....still no one knows you took all those Tylenol, so do you take more, is there a limit. Does anyone know how much to take? It will not show...not like you are shooting yourself, or got a noose around your neck.
Day 5.... passes out on the bathroom floor, not to be revived..
Dr. Ivins had plenty of opportunity to do this when they first let him know he was being investigated for anthrax. And they did pressure his family, but that did not break him.
It was this little set of panties that he did not want to answer for.
Now most MEN would just say...yeah and I sure had a lot of fun! Or it was realllllly good!! They would just own it and go on.
This was something that Ivins could not face and he chose suicide. But it was the DNA sample that triggered it, not anthrax.
Tylenol overdose can kill, but the way it kills will vary from person to person.
A general rule of thumb is a toxic dose is 150mg of acetaminophen for each kilogram of your body weight. The less you weigh, the less it will take. The more you weigh, the more you have to take.
Even then, other factors add on to what makes it lethal. If you were fasting, drink more than 3 alcoholic beverages, or for whatever reason not eating, half the normal lethal amount could kill you.
Even if you take the recommended amount, but for longer than 10 days, you could have the lethal amount build up inside of you.
Then again, you might be one of those odd people who could take a massive dose over a long period of time and nothing at all will happen.
How long will it take to die? Could be a few days, a few weeks, a few months, a couple of years, or never.
If you damage your liver, you risk other organ damage such as kidney, pancreas, heart and brain. You might not die, but you might have to live with the damage...or not.
It is a game of roulette
Ivins weighed what?? 150-160 soaking wet! So he would not have to take that much.
Maybe I should have asked, Can you die of a Tylenol overdose in less than 5 days?
Do you agree that the stimulus was the DNA swabbing for the semen on the panties?
LOL!
Denial of what?
The article says that Dr. Ivins lawyer applied for certification to handle a death penalty case, and it was granted.
The article says that Dr. Ivins lawyer told his client that the government was going to ask for the death penalty. He says he should have broken it to Ivins more gently. He says the government advised him that they were concerned about Dr. Ivins' state of mind and well-being. In other words, they were worried that Dr. Ivins might commit suicide. But Ivins' lawyer evidently did nothing about it.
Ivins lawyer says the case against Ivins was entirely circumstantial.
The article says:
"'Suggestions that this is an entirely circumstantial case are not accurate,' said Dean Boyd, a Justice Department spokesman. 'We are confident Dr. Ivins acted alone in carrying out this attack. There is the direct physical evidence. The murder weapon was created by Dr. Ivins and solely maintained by Dr. Ivins.'"
What is there to deny?
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