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Pentagon shooter had a history of mental illness
Guardian.co.uk ^ | March 6, 2010 | Tracie Cone

Posted on 03/06/2010 10:46:10 AM PST by vrwc1

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To: vrwc1

And just when the Supreme court is trying to decide what the meaning of “bear” is.


21 posted on 03/06/2010 11:23:37 AM PST by muddler (Obama is either incompetent or malicious, and it makes little difference which.)
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To: vrwc1

“...had a history of mental illness.”

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Is that how they describe democrats these days? Makes sense to me.


22 posted on 03/06/2010 11:36:32 AM PST by 353FMG (Save the Planet -- Eliminate Socialism)
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To: Maelstorm

I’m not going to argue the relative social value of drug abusers, but rather that it is difficult to separate cause and effect from the mental illness, drug abuse social misfit triangle.


23 posted on 03/06/2010 11:40:05 AM PST by bitterohiogunclinger (America held hostage - day 393)
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To: jwparkerjr

It is indeed easier to extend sympathy and prayers when not at the cost of innocence. I hear what you’re saying.


24 posted on 03/06/2010 11:42:58 AM PST by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: Maelstorm

Still at it eh?

Corelation is not causality...

Voilent criminals smoke pot...

Therefore people who smoke pot are voilent criminals....

Epic logic fail.

Makes about as much sence as ..

Voilent criminal drives toyota...

Therefore toyota drivers are voilent crminals....

EPIC LOGIC FAIL.


25 posted on 03/06/2010 11:51:31 AM PST by Crim
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To: vrwc1

ABC’s Bill Weir, who reminds me of homosexual figural skater Johnny Weir, claims that Bedell was a conservative right-wing extremist.

Lying lame-stream media pond scum.


26 posted on 03/06/2010 11:52:52 AM PST by july4thfreedomfoundation ("And when the Antichrist comes, millions will love him.")
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To: vrwc1

Let’s see, “self-medicate” with marijuana, isn’t that like an alcoholic “self-medicating” with a fifth of Jim Beam? Or maybe a gallon of Vin Rose’?? (Thats an accent after the “e” for the elitists among us...)


27 posted on 03/06/2010 12:02:42 PM PST by brushcop (SFC Sallie, CPL Long, LTHarris, SSG Brown, PVT Simmons KIA OIF lll&V, they died for you, honor them)
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To: Bigg Red

Absolutely true. Several peer reviewed medical trials have shown that marijuana use, regular use over time can initiated genetic triggers for schizophrenia and other diagnostic cagegories in mental illness. In a similar fashion that diabetes can be accelerated by high carb/sugar intake to increase resistance to insulin- genetically marked. There are some people who do not have the genetic markers for this response to marijuana, but most people do. The receptor mediated response becomes both psychologically and physiologically addictive. Biochemically pot is needed to maintain the effect—and for someone to develop tolerance, hence needing more pot. Articles have also missed that pot smoke is highly carcinogenic— but maybe that’s nothing compared to death by Oreo cookies.


28 posted on 03/06/2010 12:35:10 PM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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CNN spinning it.

Saw and heard twice on the same segment.

" Anti-government extremist".

I did not hear a mention of his politically established party support.

29 posted on 03/06/2010 12:36:41 PM PST by Peter Libra
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Wrongo. Multiple documented medical trials in brain chemistry, peer reviewed, and basis for statement that pot is a gateway drug. Alcohol isn’t very good for you either, long term and accentuates depression and suicidal mental illness, not to mention immune and nutritional deficiency and cardiomyopathy. Very self serving pot heads try to dispel high quality medical research. Neither agent is good for you, and guess what driving a car or flying in an airliner and a host of other things (like butter fat)aren’t either. But this does not good to a committed pot head or California legislator/revenue seeker from Mendocino County.


30 posted on 03/06/2010 12:40:50 PM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: vrwc1

You’re right. If he had been from the right, mental illness would NEVER be offered as an excuse.


31 posted on 03/06/2010 12:41:58 PM PST by GOPJ (http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/index2.php?area=dam&lang=eng)
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Spelling alert. “initiate” “categories”
These studies by the way, are not “Reefer Madness” government trials. They were done in conjunction with THC trials and private health foundation money.


32 posted on 03/06/2010 12:43:27 PM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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Though mentally ill people - with prior records were flagged when making gun purchase. . .NO? Just in some States?


33 posted on 03/06/2010 12:49:46 PM PST by cricket (Proud to be the 'Party of NO')
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“Wrongo. Multiple documented medical trials in brain chemistry, peer reviewed, and basis for statement that pot is a gateway drug.”

yeah yeah...I’ve seen well documented, peer reviewed studies that proclaim Man is the cause for global warming...

” Alcohol isn’t very good for you either, long term and accentuates depression and suicidal mental illness, not to mention immune and nutritional deficiency and cardiomyopathy.”

Yet it is legal...it also caused Organ damage...forgot that one...

” Very self serving pot heads try to dispel high quality medical research.”

Dispel?...no I flat out scoff at it...

If that were true...there are MILLIONS of crazys running around shooting up the pentagon...

” Neither agent is good for you, and guess what driving a car or flying in an airliner and a host of other things (like butter fat)aren’t either. But this does not good to a committed pot head or California legislator/revenue seeker from Mendocino County.”

No, what it is ,not “looks like”, is an attempt to blame clearly insane actions upon a substance that millions use daily without going insane...

Pot has as much connection to his actions as the kind of pants he wore...

His actions where based upon years of being a 9/11 truther and having those thoughts reinforced by other crazies on the net...and there are plenty of 9/11 truthers who dont smoke pot...

This is no differnt than people blaiming twinkies for the Hinckley attack on Reagan...

Sure twinkie haters will believe it...other people with logical minds will seek the true source of his motivations...

See...it has to be ANYTHING other than simple ideology and sence of purpose.....no it has to be some other influence....oh I know...he was just a crazy pot smoker...yeah that’s it...

Meh.


34 posted on 03/06/2010 1:02:16 PM PST by Crim
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To: vrwc1

YA liberalism. Number 1 mental illness in our country.


35 posted on 03/06/2010 2:24:33 PM PST by crazydad (What)
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To: vrwc1

Damn. It’s no fun when the person who creates the thread makes the most appropriate statement right off bat.


36 posted on 03/06/2010 2:29:25 PM PST by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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To: John S Mosby

Thanks for the info. Death by Oreo cookies, huh? Wait, I have come close to that before and I don’t smoke weed.


37 posted on 03/06/2010 4:34:56 PM PST by Bigg Red (Palin/Hunter 2012 -- Bolton their Secretary of State)
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To: Crim

Been around potheads my whole life, and your arguments are living proof of the effects. Too facile, my friend. And the pharmacologic trials I am speaking of are not govt. sponsored or “shadow govt.” sponsored. A chemical effect is a chemical effect. Genetic knowledge has surpassed the 60’s arguments you attempt to make. That said, the MSM has not properly characterized this nutcase as a child of the 60’s who had been busted for pot and other run ins and was bipolar and/or schizophrenic (they are not the same). It is quite self serving to try to say that “millions use daily and are not insane”. That is not what I pointed out. Sure, they’re not insane they just don’t have the same mental faculties as non pot smokers. If you don’t observe that than you are using too much of your crop. Bye.


38 posted on 03/07/2010 3:20:31 PM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Crim

Yes, alcohol is indeed legal, and what is also legal is that we as a society do not have to pay for a replacement liver or heart in a chronic drunk. Neither, if pot were legalized should we have to pay for rehab and to try to re-wire the screwed up neurons and electron transport systems of stonies. There have NEVER been any properly peer reviewed studies proving anthropogenic global warming... you are wrong, and that is precisely why the entire scam has been exposed. What I see in the “pot is perfectly safe” crowd is self serving cash producing rhetoric. And I have been to warehouses full of the stuff waiting to be put on the market by RJ Reynolds. I don’t want my pilot stoned or drunk or both, period. And this pre-wired bipolar aggravated his condition through self medication with pot— and it still does not excuse his actions. Legal or otherwise the biochemical effect on an individual is well documented.


39 posted on 03/07/2010 3:28:59 PM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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“I don’t want my pilot stoned or drunk or both, period”

While I fully agree with this statement...I really dont care about the guy at the video store or the 7-11....(just as an example)...

As a fellow conservative I’m going to just respectfully disagree and ask that we instead concentrate on other things we are in full agree of perhaps...

Lets argue after the midterms...


40 posted on 03/07/2010 4:48:15 PM PST by Crim
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