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Pentagon Gunman May Have Had 9/11 Conspiracy (Bedell is dead)
Associated Press ^ | March 5, 2010

Posted on 03/04/2010 10:58:52 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY

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To: rlmorel

That’s common to marches on both the Left AND the Right, as well as everything in between.


41 posted on 03/05/2010 9:18:07 AM PST by worst-case scenario (Striving to reach the light)
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To: rlmorel; SpaceBar; Brytani
Here is the cached wiki page at Google:

http://74.125.155.132/search?q=cache:PGR3hZJ98S0J:en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:JPatrickBedell+http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:JPatrickBedell&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a

A widgetbox page

http://www.widgetbox.com/network/green/post/john-patrick-bedell-facebook-marine-col-james-sabow-and-john-patrick-bedelllive352/4582488

This page gets a warning from google:

John Patrick Bedell Facebook | www.chasethechuckwagon.com
Watch John Patrick Bedell ID d As Pentagon Shooting Suspect here at our link .
Automatically share your ratings, favorites, and more on Facebook, Twitter, . ...
www.chasethechuckwagon.com/cpta.../config.php?...facebook - 5 hours ago

I purposfully posted that with out links

This is the warning page if anyone wants to see it.

It appears the above page had trojans, etc embedded in it.

42 posted on 03/05/2010 9:24:47 AM PST by Syncro (TPXIII coming soon! March 27th to April 15th 2010)
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To: worst-case scenario; All
"...That’s common to marches on both the Left AND the Right, as well as everything in between..."

Actually, it isn't, and that was the whole point of the analysis, why I felt compelled to take two pictures out of the hundreds/thousands I have to see if this is the case. (I concede it isn't an absolute truth, but it is pretty accurate!)

I have been fortunate to be allowed to hang out with the folks in the DC FR chapter, and have been to multiple counter-demonstrations both in front of Walter Reed, the Gathering of Eagles and last September 12th, the March on Washington.

In all the time I have spent doing this, that is one of the biggest things that stuck out in my mind.

On the Left, these people are bussed in, probably don't pay a cent out of their pocket, and are handed a sign.

On the conservative side (and this was highlighted in dramatic fashion on 9/12/2009) almost EVERYONE makes their own sign, in their own way, with their own materials, and their OWN message in their own words. And I am certain that out of the million-plus there last September, 95%+ paid their own way.

If you weren't there, there are plenty of threads that highlight just this fact, and are a lot of fun to look at. I have to say, it was one of the most highly entertaining aspects of the entire weekend.

Bottom line, I don't agree with your assertion based on my extensive experience (comparatively speaking...:)

43 posted on 03/05/2010 9:28:59 AM PST by rlmorel (We are traveling "The Road to Serfdom".)
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To: worst-case scenario
Uh, the opposite of your statement is proved in the post you responded to.

Whazzup with that?

(rhetorical)

44 posted on 03/05/2010 9:33:36 AM PST by Syncro (TPXIII coming soon! March 27th to April 15th 2010)
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To: Syncro

Thanks, Syncro.

As someone who has had the disconcerting and cynic-inducing experience of seeing first-hand the way the media treats conservatives in a variety of negative ways in its reporting (ranging from complete silence on one end, to complete slander on the other) I have come to agree wholeheartedly of the media as being a propaganda arm of the liberal institutions in this country.

We all know about CBS, NBC, CNN, NYT, LAT et al, but it extends to the Internet with Google and (as we have seen on this thread in rather blatant fashion) Wikipedia.

Nothing that none of us don’t already know, but it is discouraging and disturbing to see it in action.

The first big demonstration I went to down in DC, I was appalled at the coverage of it by the media. When the conservatives weren’t ignored, they were marginalized and trivialized.


45 posted on 03/05/2010 9:37:04 AM PST by rlmorel (We are traveling "The Road to Serfdom".)
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To: worst-case scenario; All

There is one more thing that EVERYONE notices as well, with a mixture of anger, humor, didain and disgust:

Liberals are slobs, in general. The areas they march and congregate in are a disgusting mess afterwards. Everything from dog feces and used diapers to lunch trash and signs littered every square foot of ground they passed through and stopped on.

Contrast it with the areas the conservatives were in. The areas were policed, trash collected. Even the signs that weren’t carried home were carefully deposited in trash cans, and when the bins were full, they were neatly stacked beside the bins.

The veneer of civilization is thin, and if things get crazy, who is to say we will be different? (Me! I say it...!) But when it is something like this, I can tell you who I would rather live next door to...:)


46 posted on 03/05/2010 9:45:03 AM PST by rlmorel (We are traveling "The Road to Serfdom".)
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To: rlmorel
Oh yea you got that right rlmorel

I like your post # 37 Here

Great comparisons, I'm passing them around.

I was at the events you mentioned too!

47 posted on 03/05/2010 9:47:37 AM PST by Syncro (TPXIII coming soon! March 27th to April 15th 2010)
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To: Syncro

When we all got together for dinner later, those were some of the things everyone agreed were common and undeniable.

Were you at the FR banquet?


48 posted on 03/05/2010 9:53:55 AM PST by rlmorel (We are traveling "The Road to Serfdom".)
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To: Syncro

“Whazzup” is that photos can be selected purely to illistrate a point, as these are. They fall more into the realm of the anecdotal than the factual. This is a case in point. One photo- from one raally - doesn’t prove anything except about that particular instance.

Every rally I have ever been to - especially for a candidate or supported by an organization - usually has signs that are handed out or can be used by the ralliers. Especially if the crowd is being bussed in, the signs will be handed out at the location, so that the passenger buses aren’t full of people with large objects with sharp corners and sticks, as signs usually are.

In a well- run rally, even homemade signs are collected at the metting or boarding spot, and then redistributed at the rally. You don’t get your OWN sign back, but you know someone else will be waving it.

Now, the Tea Party rallies have been something different, because they are usually not organized by a central organization. So you’d expect to see a lot more homemade signs. But that doesn’t mean that there were not also pre-printed signs there.

In addition, I have been part of pre-rally preps where groups of people were told to make 100 signs or more by hand, and to “change them up” as much as possible. This was done to give the impression that all of the signs were the work of dedicated individuals. Those signs would be distributed to the ralliers, who then waved them around as is each one had been created by the person carrying it.

Therefore, my statement was in disagreement with the post I responded to. I do not accept one photo, from one rally, as proff that rallies “on the Right” do not use pre-printed signs. Marches on both the Left AND the Right do that, and have done that, for decades.

Attend the March for Life to see this in action. Tea Parties are not the only marches/ rallies that are held for Conservative causes.


49 posted on 03/05/2010 10:21:53 AM PST by worst-case scenario (Striving to reach the light)
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To: rlmorel

The basis for my assertion is in my post above. In both the March for Life and various political campaigns I’ve attended, I was bussed to a central location (admittedly from out-of-state in the case of March for Life) and then handed signs there.

I haven’t been to any FR demonstrations, which seem to be more spontaneous than sponsored. Perhaps it’s not so much a function of the Left or Right, but of the organizational support behind the event. A few Leftie environmental rallies I’ve seen in my local college town are all homegrown and look it (in several sense of the word.)


50 posted on 03/05/2010 10:26:47 AM PST by worst-case scenario (Striving to reach the light)
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To: rlmorel
Do you mean the dinner at the FR Convention?

I was there, I'm the guy in the Red shirt in This Video who keeps getting in the video of the REAL videotographer!

51 posted on 03/05/2010 10:49:14 AM PST by Syncro (TPXIII coming soon! March 27th to April 15th 2010)
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To: worst-case scenario
...photos can be selected purely to illistrate (sic) a point, as these are. They fall more into the realm of the anecdotal than the factual. This is a case in point. One photo- from one raally(sic) - doesn’t prove anything except about that particular instance.

True, but the photos in question are representative of each side respectively

I do not accept one photo, from one rally, as proff (sic) that rallies “on the Right” do not use pre-printed signs. Marches on both the Left AND the Right do that, and have done that, for decades.

That wasn't the point. No one said that there are NO pre made signs at Conservative rallies. Of course there are. The proportion of hand made and printed signs is much different in the opposing left/right rallies.

Attend the March for Life to see this in action. Tea Parties are not the only marches/ rallies that are held for Conservative causes.

Oh, thanks for the informative heads-up! LOL

I have been to March for Life rallies and altogether over 100 rallies and tea parties for 10 yrs +, from attendance of one or 2, to way over a million.

My observations prove the point I and another poster are making.

52 posted on 03/05/2010 11:07:33 AM PST by Syncro (TPXIII coming soon! March 27th to April 15th 2010)
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To: rlmorel

You are so Correct and keep up your Great work.

Have spoke with many time face to face with Code Pinkos
and PaulBots. All the same talking points.
You can’t tell one from the other.


53 posted on 03/05/2010 12:18:21 PM PST by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: Syncro

Sorry for my poor typing. I can only beg forgiveness as they are the result of a stroke a few years ago, and not poor spelling knowledge.

I defer to your greater knowledge.


54 posted on 03/05/2010 12:37:13 PM PST by worst-case scenario (Striving to reach the light)
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To: worst-case scenario
Your typing was just fine.

Obviously your sarcastic remark shows you prefer to avoid the facts.

I can give you some astounding medical history of myself, but will decline, as it is irrelevant to this discussion

55 posted on 03/05/2010 2:18:59 PM PST by Syncro (TPXIII coming soon! March 27th to April 15th 2010)
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To: worst-case scenario

That may be. I don’t doubt our experiences differ in those respects.


56 posted on 03/05/2010 4:25:29 PM PST by rlmorel (We are traveling "The Road to Serfdom".)
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To: Syncro

My7 remark was not sarcastic. I have not been to hundreds of demonstrations. Your on-the-ground knowledge, which you cite as the reason your outlook is more accurate than mine, is much greater than mine. I hasve not been to hundreds of rallies and demonstrations.

I therefore will defer to your greater knowledge. You have more experience than I do.

It is unfortunate that you perceived my comment as sarcastic. It was not intended as such.

There is nothing else that I can say other than you have changed my mind on this subject. I was wrong.


57 posted on 03/05/2010 5:10:26 PM PST by worst-case scenario (Striving to reach the light)
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To: worst-case scenario
Well I profusely apologize for misreading your comment.

I have been to over a hundred, not hundreds.

It has given me a good look at both sides of the picture, as a good percentage of the rallies/events I have attended were leftists in nature.

Thanks for you kind response, and again I'm sorry to have misjudged you comment as sarcasm.

I need to mellow out... : > )

58 posted on 03/05/2010 8:13:56 PM PST by Syncro (TPXIII coming soon! March 27th to April 15th 2010)
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