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Austin plane crash exposes gap in US air security
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Posted on 02/19/2010 7:38:33 PM PST by LouAvul

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To: Tolsti2; SgtBob; JoSixChip
You think the first amendment gives you right to GA?

The Constitution regulates the government, moron, not the people. The people are free to do what they wish.

There's nothing in the Constitution that gives the government the right to regulate much of any part of our lives, all for our own good, dontcha know?

61 posted on 02/19/2010 9:20:07 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: SgtBob

As a pilot who makes his living flying a small airplane, I agree with you. Quit taking away what freedoms we have left. How come after Ok city they didn’t take away the right to drive U-Hauls? No more homeowner movers allowed!


62 posted on 02/19/2010 9:25:09 PM PST by US_MilitaryRules (Become a monthly donor or FR won't be here for you!)
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To: metmom

Luv ya, metmom! Tolsti, the asshat, is a troll. (pardon my Marine Corps “French”)

Congress will get, and Tolsti needs a sharp snap of a newspaper across the snout. It has always worked miracles with my dogs.


63 posted on 02/19/2010 9:44:07 PM PST by SgtBob (Freedom is not for the faint of heart. Semper Fi!)
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To: dalereed

Mine, too! Kick-ass Cessna Caravan in Flying Mag today!


64 posted on 02/19/2010 9:53:20 PM PST by SgtBob (Freedom is not for the faint of heart. Semper Fi!)
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To: Tolsti2
Hey partner, take a look at this video and maybe you will realize that GA is the least of our worries.

One Six Right

65 posted on 02/19/2010 9:55:26 PM PST by Errant
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To: Errant

Reminds me of base jumper logic. Just not impressed. Except base jumping usually only harms themselves.


66 posted on 02/19/2010 9:58:21 PM PST by Tolsti2
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To: Tolsti2; All

“Frankly GA’s a big risk in general with little benefit except for the bored wealthy.

Someday someone will use one for a chem or bio attack like Atta wanted. This one area I’d like to see more or less cleaned up entirely.”

Add this pilot to the list to correct this nonsense.
I am NOT rich, I’ve been in love with aicraft since I cannot remember. To fly was something my father told me I could always learn to do. And I did! it is one of the most rewarding things I have ever done. You do not need to be rich, just dedicated and have priorities to make personal dreams come true.

As for cleaning it up, better stop all rentals of Ryder trucks right now while your at it.


67 posted on 02/19/2010 10:00:20 PM PST by Names Ash Housewares
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To: Tolsti2
Frankly GA’s a big risk in general with little benefit except for the bored wealthy.

Are you that uninformed that you don't know most of General Aviation is not the bored wealthy traveling to scenic airports for a $100.00 hamburger?

More business gets done daily through General Aviation than anyone would imagine.

Business travel accounts for more flying hours than any other branch of general aviation. Approximately 70% of all general aviation is associated with some commercial activity, such as business travel, construction, aerial application of fertilizer and pesticides, or flight instruction. according to Answers.com

I am not a pilot and never expect to be. I don't have enough income even for golf. I don't have a quarter of a million dollar home to burn down.

But, I am such a staunch anti-Socialist that I can recognize Liberal Socialist Class Warfare and call you on it.

You are the Liberal - Socialist - Fascist - Communist - Democrat enemy to responsible Conservatives.

68 posted on 02/19/2010 10:02:46 PM PST by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: Names Ash Housewares

I can kinda see the Ryder truck logic. However, planes did succeeed where trucks failed in 9/11. What can help stop that again? Security. GA craft aren’t much good at smashing into things, but they are great to spray down things on people from. I *personally* don’t think the hobby of it is worth the risk.


69 posted on 02/19/2010 10:03:27 PM PST by Tolsti2
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To: higgmeister

Wow, I’ve been called a communist. My only 2 things I’m against that aren’t libertarian are planes and drugs.

Everything else, guns, taxes, spending, military, space research I’m a Reaganite on. Moreso than Reagan on guns.

But hey, it’s always interesting to be called something new in life.


70 posted on 02/19/2010 10:05:10 PM PST by Tolsti2
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To: Tolsti2

To me, the freedom to fly is one of those things that sets America apart from other nations just like the ownership of firearms. If we lose that right then we lose a big part of what America is all about. Take a quick peek video and maybe you will feel a little better about the type of folks involved GA.


71 posted on 02/19/2010 10:08:57 PM PST by Errant
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To: Errant

I know most GA people are great, I know many of them. People on this thread are a bit unbelievable in their fanatic attacks, which does make me wonder about some of their mental conditions.

However, GA is one of the greatest available methods now for spreading bio/chem weapons over populated areas. IF islamics use it that way, expect people to go ‘why wasn’t this stopped?’ and there’s not much of a good reason when it comes down to it.


72 posted on 02/19/2010 10:10:43 PM PST by Tolsti2
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To: Tolsti2; All

GA isn’t just a hobby, it’s an industry critical to training pilots for all kinds of important needs for our nation.

There is little “spraying down” anyone is going to be doing with 99.9 percent of general aviation aircraft that is for sure.

Read up please, were trying to fill in those dark areas for you...

http://www.gaservesamerica.com/

We have enough trouble with liberals going after are firearm rights. We don’t need our freedom of even the sky taken away too.


73 posted on 02/19/2010 10:13:20 PM PST by Names Ash Housewares
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To: Tolsti2
But Wes Stowers is no fat cat. And his company plane, a King Air 350, is no ego trip. He also owns a private jet.

"It's comfortable and functional. But not exactly luxurious," said Stowers, chairman of Stowers Machinery Corporation.

Stowers' Knoxville, Tenn. Caterpillar dealership has been his family's business for almost 50 years.

On his company plane, Stowers flies customers to caterpillar factories, in remote places commercial carriers don't fly.

In fact only 500 American cities are served by the major airlines, whereas private planes can access 5,000 smaller airports across the country. ****************************************************** http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/05/17/eveningnews/main5021145.shtml?source=RSSattr=Business_5021145 ********************************************************

Hobby Airport will be open tomorrow to only those pilots using visual flight rules, or VFR, according to the Federal Aviation Administration.

Commercial flights, which fly under IFR or instrument flight rules are not operating yet, said Roland Herwig, FAA spokesman in Oklahoma City.

"We do not know when it (Hobby) will be fully operational," Herwig said.

Still no word on when Bush Intercontinental Airport will reopen. ********************************************************* http://blogs.chron.com/hurricanes/2008/09/hobby_airport_open_to_small_pl.html *********************************************************

WICHITA, Kan., Jan. 15, 2010 - Cessna Aircraft Company, a Textron Inc. (NYSE: TXT) company, and CitationAir, a leader in fractional jet ownership, jet card membership and whole aircraft management, are supporting an effort by the National Business Aviation Association (NBAA) to make available American business aircraft to the Haitian relief effort.

“We’ve turned our resources and customer contacts toward helping NBAA identify and mobilize the large fleet of business aircraft in America in support our nation’s relief efforts for our neighbors in Haiti,” said Cessna Chairman, President and CEO Jack J. Pelton. ****************************************************** http://skyhawksp.cessna.com/NewReleases/FeaturedNews/NewReleaseNumber-1192308515305.html *******************************************************

Some of these GA people volunteer to fly kids for Make a Wish, they've volunteered to help during floods.

It's amazing some of the things these rich old turds do with their aircraft!

Let us not forget, either, how much GA adds to the economy and how many jobs are attached to this business.

74 posted on 02/19/2010 10:13:48 PM PST by Irenic
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To: SgtBob; Tolsti2
TOLSTI2 NEEDS TO BE BANNED FROM OUR FREE REPUBLIC!!!!

Call the VCs       IBTZ!

75 posted on 02/19/2010 10:13:55 PM PST by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: LouAvul

I don’t think this will just be a solitary incident, next time it could be a tanker truck driver that disagreed with the IRS collection policies.

Or it could be as minimal as a late night cleaning crew that flushes sponges down all the toilets, or a few well placed dead vermin.

Regardless of how these people were judged or politically typecasted they are still people of America, a troubled American political party thats in disagreement with what the people want.

There should be no reason to now start a $5 billion defense system when the solution is something else, fix America.

Boot the democrats out, impeach an inept leader.


76 posted on 02/19/2010 10:16:33 PM PST by Eye of Unk ("Either you are with us or you are for the terrorists." ~~George W. Bush)
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To: Tolsti2
Hey my friend. If your freedom of movement is denied, it's no different than being in jail without the bars. Free movement around town, city, state or nation is not a privilege it's your God given right under our Constitution.

Nam Vet

77 posted on 02/19/2010 10:16:50 PM PST by Nam Vet (Inuendo IS NOT an Italian suppository.)
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To: Irenic

If people would be rational and talk about the ups and downs, that’s one thing. Mostly it’s just insulting with you and errant both going that way, but also offering some counters. Too bad it has to be so nasty.


78 posted on 02/19/2010 10:17:02 PM PST by Tolsti2
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To: Nam Vet

I don’t fly, it’s not necessary to get around CONUS.


79 posted on 02/19/2010 10:18:37 PM PST by Tolsti2
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To: Irenic

Sorry about that post, I blew the links with my dang *’s.

Again, I apologize for the mess.


80 posted on 02/19/2010 10:21:14 PM PST by Irenic
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