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A Dubai Victory
commentary ^ | 2/18/10 | Noah Pollak

Posted on 02/18/2010 10:29:51 AM PST by Nachum

It’s fascinating to watch the world try to turn the Dubai assassination into a debacle for Israel — all because the team members were captured on CCTV and the British and Irish authorities are making a momentary stink about the use of forged British and Irish passports.

You, the reader of this post, will be captured on CCTV a dozen times today simply going about your business. The people calling the operation “sloppy” and a “debacle” seem to actually believe that the Mossad is unaware that there are video cameras in airports and hotels today, or that the passport photos of the agents would not be revealed to the public. Really.

More important, the fact of the matter is that the team got into Dubai, rubbed out a bad guy, and got out. No drama, nobody was captured, and nobody knows the real identities of the team or where they are now. Given the extraordinary risk and complexity of the operation, that’s a win in my book. And now the Iranians, Syrians, and their terrorist clients have been given another reminder that their people aren’t safe anywhere — even in the heart of the Arab world.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: dubai; fatah; fatahversushamas; hamas; hamasversusfatah; notmossad; palestinianauthority; palestinians; savemeir; victory

1 posted on 02/18/2010 10:29:51 AM PST by Nachum
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To: Nachum
And - Infidels are supposed to play by the rules that the muslims do not play by...
2 posted on 02/18/2010 10:31:26 AM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: Nachum

Do it in Dubai!
- What happens here, stays here!


3 posted on 02/18/2010 10:31:31 AM PST by bunkerhill7 (God bless)
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To: Nachum

Dubai allows free passage to as terrorist, a combatant in a war against Israel, and expects the Israelis to just sit by?

Job well done by Israel. Hopefully a lesson learned by Dubai.


4 posted on 02/18/2010 10:35:00 AM PST by anotherview ("Ignorance is the choice not to know" -Klaus Schulze)
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To: Nachum

If I were one of the bad guys, this hit would scare the crap out of me. This team goes into Dubai, knocks off a high ranking Hamas guy, and gets away with it. I would be shaking in my boots.

Sometimes the openess of a ‘covert’ action is meant to send a measure. I believe the measure has been sent the only question is will the intended receive it????


5 posted on 02/18/2010 10:38:43 AM PST by the long march
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To: Nachum

Its a war. To win, heads must roll. I have no problem with the covert assassination of terrorist leaders.

It is a bit of a problem that it wasn’t covert enough — when covert actions become open, it can cause political and diplomatic problems. But, still, its better to mop up a diplomatic SNAFU than to have one more terrorist walking the earth.

I’m sure the agents that were involved have been getting a lesson on what “covert” means, or at least an earful from superiors, ever since.

SnakeDoc


6 posted on 02/18/2010 10:39:37 AM PST by SnakeDoctor (I am Jack's smirking revenge.)
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To: the long march

message not measure

It was awfully James Bondish. That’s something new.


7 posted on 02/18/2010 10:42:46 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: Nachum

Why is fraudulently using another country’s passport a minor matter?

What if roles were reversed, and another country’s hit squad used forged Israeli passports? Don’t you think Israel would be screaming about that?

Israel pulled this same crap with forged Canadian passports a few years ago, and were forced to publicly apologize for it - apparently they didn’t think it was minor.


8 posted on 02/18/2010 10:43:23 AM PST by canuck_conservative
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To: SnakeDoctor

If it was even Israel that did it


9 posted on 02/18/2010 10:43:32 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: canuck_conservative

Well they couldn’t very well have used Israeli passports now could they.


10 posted on 02/18/2010 10:50:27 AM PST by MCF
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To: HiTech RedNeck

It was cheaper to use 10 live man drones and a woman drone than a UAV.
Israel warned Hamas almost one year ago:
“We operate everywhere where we can hit terror infrastructure - in close places, in places further away, everywhere where we can hit terror infrastructure, we hit them and we hit them in a way that increases deterrence,” said Olmert, speaking at a conference in Herzliya”
April 1, 2009
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1074654.html


11 posted on 02/18/2010 10:56:20 AM PST by bunkerhill7 (God bless)
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To: canuck_conservative

So, they quit using Canada passports didn’t they? It’s not like there weren’t umpty-ump other false flags they could use.


12 posted on 02/18/2010 11:00:01 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: MCF

There’s what, 140-something countries in the world? Couldn’t have forged a Syrian or Libyan passport??

This, at a time when Israel is trying to drum up support among Western countries for action against Iran. So what do they do? Forge passports from two countries on the security Council (England & France) that Israel is counting on for sanctions support. Brilliant. Could they alienate public opinion any more?

So let’s review - taking out some no-name terrorist in exchange for ticking off two crucial supporters needed to confront an existential threat. This is short-term thinking at its worst.

Maybe the Mossad head should write a book - “How to Lose Friends and Not Influence People”.


13 posted on 02/18/2010 11:00:06 AM PST by canuck_conservative
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To: Nachum

Everyone in the world who counts respects competence. This was done very competently. It sends a powerful message. It is only assumed that Israel did it. It cannot be proved.


14 posted on 02/18/2010 11:00:26 AM PST by marktwain
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To: Nachum

This operation had to have plenty of detailed planning based on solid intel - Hammas has to wonder about Mossad’s sources. Do they have a mole or has an informant been turned? Are their communications compromised? Are any of their allies playing a double game?

Lots to keep ones head tossing on the pillow all night long.

Daniel Silva - eat your heart out.


15 posted on 02/18/2010 11:06:59 AM PST by G L Tirebiter
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Yeah they stopped - but only after (a) they got their asses hauled into court and (b) the Israeli ambassador got read the Riot Act by the Canadian Government.

Then they did the same thing with New Zealand, and got nailed there too.

Does Israel want no help in confronting Iran? They sure seem to be going out of their way to ensure exactly that.


16 posted on 02/18/2010 11:08:24 AM PST by canuck_conservative
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To: canuck_conservative

Iran is a loose cannon getting ready to shoot. Anyone who understands Moose understands this, no matter what Dinner Jacket says. For Canada and New Zealand to spurn undercover teamwork with Israel to undermine Iran would involve cutting off their noses to spite Jewish faces.


17 posted on 02/18/2010 11:18:46 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: bunkerhill7
Do it in Dubai! - What happens here, stays here!

NOT! As long as you don't have unmarried sex on a public beach, indulge in witchcraft, get falling down drunk in public, wear shorts during Ramadan, or murder a high profile Hamas leader AND leave his body in the 5 star hotel room . . . CSI Dubai will leave you alone. This might have gone unnoticed if they had just dumped his body in the desert.

18 posted on 02/18/2010 11:20:35 AM PST by Cheesehead in Texas
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To: canuck_conservative

The French will not support them, so they do not matter.


19 posted on 02/18/2010 11:23:42 AM PST by Ratman83
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To: canuck_conservative

I don’t care if they use a forged American passport. What’s it to you?


20 posted on 02/18/2010 11:26:26 AM PST by existtoexcel
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Iran is far away, and has no easy means of reaching us, and so is basically irrelevant to Canada and New Zealand.

Sorry to speak the hard truth.


21 posted on 02/18/2010 11:34:23 AM PST by canuck_conservative
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To: HiTech RedNeck

There is no way it took 17 Mossad members to take out 1 Hamas. Perhaps the other way around but no way.


22 posted on 02/18/2010 11:55:59 AM PST by She hits a grand slam tonight
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To: canuck_conservative

You should more like apologize for speaking the easy lie. Iran has been trying to import Taepodong missiles.


23 posted on 02/18/2010 11:58:53 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: canuck_conservative

24 posted on 02/18/2010 12:06:18 PM PST by Rammer
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Exactly - for most of Western Canada, the Western US & Alaska, North Korea is a more immediate threat, since they have nukes and capable missiles, as you point out.


25 posted on 02/18/2010 2:37:14 PM PST by canuck_conservative
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To: canuck_conservative

Iran trying to get a Taepodong spells worldwide trouble to me. If they can’t get the ‘dong then they can try to build one.


26 posted on 02/18/2010 2:45:53 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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27 posted on 02/18/2010 3:45:53 PM PST by SJackson (In wine there is wisdom, In beer there is freedom, In water there is bacteria.)
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To: canuck_conservative

O grow up. Spies use covers and Israelis can’t freely travel to the UAE.


28 posted on 02/19/2010 12:34:26 AM PST by rmlew (Democracy tends to ignore..., threats to its existence because it loathes doing what is needed)
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To: Nachum; SunkenCiv

“the team got into Dubai, rubbed out a bad guy, and got out. No drama, nobody was captured, and nobody knows the real identities of the team or where they are now”

exactlt


29 posted on 02/19/2010 12:31:19 PM PST by dervish (I never saw a wild thing sorry for itself)
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To: canuck_conservative

so I guess they’ll have to apologize again.

Did it ever occur to you that Israel may not be too happy with the UK?

http://law.rightpundits.com/?p=778 ( Pan Am bomber freed)

http://www.economist.com/world/middleeast-africa/displaystory.cfm?story_id=15136684 (Israeli officials threatened with arrest in UK for “war crimes”)

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/britain-punishes-israel-for-gaza-naval-bombardment-1744969.html (UK revokes licences for exports of equipment used in Saar 4.5 vessels after Gaza war)

http://www.jpost.com/International/Article.aspx?id=167969 (anti-Semitic violence at record high in UK)

with friends like these...


30 posted on 02/19/2010 12:59:03 PM PST by dervish (I never saw a wild thing sorry for itself)
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To: canuck_conservative

“taking out some no-name terrorist”

get your facts straight ——

“Mahmoud al-Mabhouh fit the definition used until now of a worthy target. He was not assassinated in revenge for his involvement in the killing of two IDF soldiers about 20 years ago. Rather, the hunters stalked him because of his key role in forging secret connections between Hamas and the Al-Quds force of the Revolutionary Guards in Iran. They believed he had a major role in the coordination of arms shipments from Iran to Gaza via the shores of Sudan and Egypt, and on to Sinai. His assassination was aimed at thwarting Hamas activity in this area.

Does his killing strike a harsh blow to Hamas? Definitely. It will take time to find a suitable replacement for him. Just as importantly, in the wake of his assassination the Hamas leadership is in a tizzy and is being drawn into a vortex of suspicion.”

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1150896.html

and that’s from the left wing Israeli paper.

So the UK and France are going to block sanctions on Iran getting nukes that could reach them to stick it to Israel over some passports? lol


31 posted on 02/19/2010 1:07:43 PM PST by dervish (I never saw a wild thing sorry for itself)
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More important, the fact of the matter is that the team got into Dubai, rubbed out a bad guy, and got out. No drama, nobody was captured, and nobody knows the real identities of the team or where they are now.
Whereas everybody knows where the bad guy is now...
32 posted on 02/19/2010 8:18:02 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Happy New Year! Freedom is Priceless.)
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To: Nachum

Next they need to use directional loudspeakers to make the rocks in Ghaza shout in Arabic, “A Jooo is hiding behind me. Come and kill him.” Then when one of the faithful approaches the rock, dagger in hand, set off the C4 charge. Mess with their heads enough, and maybe they’ll convert to scientology or some other religion that doesn’t exhort its adherents to murder.


33 posted on 02/20/2010 1:04:20 PM PST by Eleutheria5 ( Two-state solution: A bad idea whose time has gone.)
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