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Study: States must fill $1 trillion pension gap
PMSNBC ^ | 2-18-10 | msnbc

Posted on 02/18/2010 8:57:12 AM PST by WOBBLY BOB

HARRISBURG, Pa. - States may be forced to reduce benefits, raise taxes or slash government services to address a $1 trillion funding shortfall in public sector retirement benefits, according to a new study that warns of even more debilitating costs if immediate action isn't taken.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: boondoggle; debt; deficits; fraud; goonyan; msnbc; pension; pensions; rail; taxpayers; trains; trillions; union; unions; waste
Gubermint unions are bankrupting our country... --nowhere is it more true than CA an NY. They are the models of our pending demise. don't expect in government to take any serious action .

http://www.pensiontsunami.com/public.php

1 posted on 02/18/2010 8:57:12 AM PST by WOBBLY BOB
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To: WOBBLY BOB

What’s this “MUST” crap in the headline!?!


2 posted on 02/18/2010 9:00:50 AM PST by BradtotheBone (Moderate Democrat - A politician whose voting record leans left and whose vote can be bought.)
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To: BradtotheBone

Owe-Bow-Mao to the all-powerful gubermint goonyans.


3 posted on 02/18/2010 9:02:20 AM PST by WOBBLY BOB (ACORN:American Corruption for Obama Right Now)
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To: BradtotheBone

At some point, all these independent pension programs will be folded into social security, then dealt with.


4 posted on 02/18/2010 9:02:26 AM PST by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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To: BradtotheBone

AFSME (MN’s gubermint union) were on the news yelling and screaming at Pawlenty with their bullhorns today.

-—”no cuts!!””,blah,blah....same old s**t.


5 posted on 02/18/2010 9:03:57 AM PST by WOBBLY BOB (ACORN:American Corruption for Obama Right Now)
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well they won’t be reducing benefits. The unions and their Lawyahs will see to that.


6 posted on 02/18/2010 9:11:16 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: WOBBLY BOB

Socialism works until you run out of other peoples money.
There is no way you can retire at 50 and get 90% of your salary and benefits. Any Actuary will tell you this is impossible. This has been a dream of Socialists that always turns into a nightmare.


7 posted on 02/18/2010 9:12:21 AM PST by Comanche
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I predict they will raise taxes and after that’s not enough, steal from our 401ks via some new tax or fee...or just outright take it by force.

Gubermint unions care only about fulfilling their greed and continuing their bloated existence.


8 posted on 02/18/2010 9:17:24 AM PST by WOBBLY BOB (ACORN:American Corruption for Obama Right Now)
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“Owe-Bow-Mao to the all-powerful gubermint goonyans.”

That is absolutely hilarious!

LOL


9 posted on 02/18/2010 9:35:57 AM PST by Adder (Proudly ignoring Zero since 1-20-09! WTFU!)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

Going to be a hoard of bankrupt states........


10 posted on 02/18/2010 9:39:34 AM PST by cranked
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To: Buckeye McFrog
well they won’t be reducing benefits. The unions and their Lawyahs will see to that.well they won’t be reducing benefits. The unions and their Lawyahs will see to that.

There are many ways around that.
Bottom line, no contract is enforceable if the terms are impossible. Lawyers may manage to enforce "unreasonable," but impossible is another matter.

Contracts can be allowed to expire, and a new contract based on reality substituted. If the employees don't like it they quit, or be fired. That's my choice. Fire them all, even if the state comes to a halt (a good thing, the working taxpayers are unaffected).
All new public service contracts can be no better than the median salary/benefits package in private industry for identical work. Anyone who would question or challenge that is ignorant of the nature/practice of "public" employment. An uncompromising principle: the employer decides what he's willing to pay. The employee can take it or leave it.

Works for private industry.

No union-free private business has ever survived with 15% of the employees doing essentially nothing, and 50% working at half speed. None. Zero.

Public emplyment should be a stepping stone to real employment, not another form of welfare. And damned expensive welfare at that.

11 posted on 02/18/2010 10:41:12 AM PST by Publius6961 (You can't build a reputation on what you are going to do)
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