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Cheney supports repealing 'Don't ask, don't tell'(Open Gays in the Military)
The Hill ^ | 2/14/2010 | Eric Zimmermann -

Posted on 02/14/2010 5:24:07 PM PST by Brices Crossroads

Former Vice President Dick Cheney came out in favor of repealing "Don't ask, don't tell," (DADT) today.

Cheney said that the support of military leaders had convinced him that it was time for a change.

"Twenty years ago the military were strong advocates of 'Don't ask, don't tell.' I think things have change significantly since then," Cheney said on ABC's "This Week."

I think that society has moved on. It's partly a generational question," he continued. "When the [Joint] Chiefs come forward and say 'we think we can do it,' is strikes me that it's time to reconsider the policy."

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cheney; dadt; dickcheney; dontask; dontaskdonttell; duh; gays; homosexualagenda; military; obama
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1 posted on 02/14/2010 5:24:08 PM PST by Brices Crossroads
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To: Brices Crossroads
Sorry,Mr Cheney.I served....you didn't.Therefore my opinion means more than yours.And I say no.
2 posted on 02/14/2010 5:25:40 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Host The Beer Summit-->Win The Nobel Peace Prize!)
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To: Brices Crossroads

It’s time for Mr. Cheney to retire.


3 posted on 02/14/2010 5:25:40 PM PST by cll (I am the warrant and the sanction)
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To: Brices Crossroads
...I think things have change significantly since then...

famous last words.

4 posted on 02/14/2010 5:26:46 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (yeah, you can quote me.)
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To: Brices Crossroads
Sorry Dick, you're wrong here. And if you'd ever served in the military at the company level or below, you'd understand why.

The military is not the place for social experimentation. Especially in wartime.

5 posted on 02/14/2010 5:27:13 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Brices Crossroads

...and for every globalist, new world order Cheney worshiper on this site,...well,...I hope you guys can finally move on from the very people that have tried their damnedest to take this nation down.


6 posted on 02/14/2010 5:27:42 PM PST by Ranger Drew
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To: Brices Crossroads

Cheney is compromised on this issue since his daughter is lesbian. This is one of the few chinks in his armour!


7 posted on 02/14/2010 5:29:06 PM PST by tflabo (Restore the Republic)
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To: Brices Crossroads

Guess his daughter’s lifestyle choice has rubbed off on him.


8 posted on 02/14/2010 5:29:53 PM PST by NoKoolAidforMe (1-20-09--The Beginning of an Error..............1-20-13--Change we can look forward to)
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To: Vigilanteman
The military is not the place for social experimentation. Especially in wartime.

I would just say this is a dangerous argument since it was used to say why intigration of the armed forces was a bad idea.

9 posted on 02/14/2010 5:30:23 PM PST by chargers fan
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To: Brices Crossroads

He’s wrong, but you don’t have a daughter who’s gay, either. Don’t throw his baby out with the bathwater. This is not the sum of the man.


10 posted on 02/14/2010 5:31:17 PM PST by CincyRichieRich (Keep your head up and keep moving forward!)
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To: Brices Crossroads
"When the [Joint] Chiefs come forward and say 'we think we can do it,' is strikes me that it's time to reconsider the policy."

The Joint Chiefs are nothing more than politicians wearing uniforms.
It is not they to whom you should be listening, Mr. Cheney.

11 posted on 02/14/2010 5:31:18 PM PST by grobdriver (Proud Member, Party Of No! No Socialism - No Fascism - Nobama - No Way!)
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To: Brices Crossroads

changed, what the hell has changed?

how about asking the men and wmen who actually serve and who woul;d have to put up wiht this law instead of asking generals who will never have ot share a shower with homosexuals or put up wioth homosexual parties in your room

nothing except that we have had generals who care more about PC than then men they are supposed to lead.

FT Hood shooting showed that. Right after the shooting we had a general saying how he hopes this doesn’t affect diversity in the military

Must be great to live in that little world where one doesn’t have to put up with the laws you make

Did anyone notice how he never brought out 3, just 3 instances of how this if overturned would improve the military?

I can point out 20 issues and problems off the top of my head and yet the homosexuals and perverts cannot even point out any good issues


12 posted on 02/14/2010 5:32:39 PM PST by manc (WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA/THE LEFT BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
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To: Brices Crossroads
When you have a homosexual activist daughter (yes, she is), I'm sure this kind of plays into it.
13 posted on 02/14/2010 5:33:30 PM PST by fwdude (It is not the liberals who will destroy this country, but the "moderates.")
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To: Brices Crossroads

“One issue I want to clarify concerns President Clinton’s “don’t ask, don’t tell, don’t pursue” military policy. I believe that the Clinton compromise was a step in the right direction. I am also convinced that it is the first of a number of steps that will ultimately lead to gays and lesbians being able to serve openly and honestly in our nation’s military. That goal will only be reached when preventing discrimination against gays and lesbians is a mainstream concern, which is a goal we share.”

Sincerely, W. Mitt Romney


14 posted on 02/14/2010 5:33:37 PM PST by ansel12 (Mitt Romney and the Romney family traditionally, is at war with conservatism and traditional America)
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To: chargers fan

No, race is inherited and unchangeable. Homosexuality is behavior and is acquired.


15 posted on 02/14/2010 5:34:03 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: Brices Crossroads
video
16 posted on 02/14/2010 5:34:20 PM PST by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: steve86
No, race is inherited and unchangeable.

Well there was Michael Jackson.

17 posted on 02/14/2010 5:35:11 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: manc

I know what my rationale and reasons are for not repealing DADT.

As a MOS, would you mind giving me some statements so that I can use to debate with the libs and freaks that I am surrounded by?


18 posted on 02/14/2010 5:35:52 PM PST by NoKoolAidforMe (1-20-09--The Beginning of an Error..............1-20-13--Change we can look forward to)
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To: grobdriver

correct it is high time to ask those who serve and would have to share showers, sleeping bags and rooms with homosexuals who dance around letting everyone know their a homo

the joint chiefs are political and care about their own futures.

amazing how those like me who have served on the large majority do not want this and yet we have elected official which will not get affected by this telling us we have to have it

you can bet that this will be an election decider for many especially the likes of vets and the military including the blacks who serve and voted for phony

I have yet to hear anyone point out 3 good points for overturning this and tell me how this will improve the miltiary and yet there are many problems it brings.


19 posted on 02/14/2010 5:36:45 PM PST by manc (WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA/THE LEFT BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
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To: Brices Crossroads

Sorry Dick. . .you’re very wrong on this. . .it not only is an issue with regard to the military but our entire national heritage. If we are no longer a nation founded upon the self-evident truths of “the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God” then we have no rights at all. Homosexuality is a behavior. . .a dysfunctional behavior that is contrary to the laws of nature. This dysfunctional behavior is not a basis for human identity or rights. . .we ALL have rights owing to our status as having been CREATED by God. My rights and identity are not based upon my heterosexual behavior either. Our rights are based upon OUR COMMON essence as human beings and they are bequeathed to us by God. . it is what binds us together as a nation. Forcing the idea upon humanity that an exclusive behavior is the basis for rights and identity is A DESTRUCTION OF THE BASIS OF OUR NATIONAL IDENTITY. . .we lose the essence of what we all have in common.


20 posted on 02/14/2010 5:37:00 PM PST by McBuff
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To: Gay State Conservative

I have heard that many soldiers have had to
undergo surgery to repair their rectums.
This is the silent surgery that is never
mentioned. Ask any doctor who has served
in the military.


21 posted on 02/14/2010 5:37:13 PM PST by cliff630
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To: Gay State Conservative

I have heard that many soldiers have had to
undergo surgery to repair their rectums.
This is the silent surgery that is never
mentioned. Ask any doctor who has served
in the military.


22 posted on 02/14/2010 5:38:15 PM PST by cliff630
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To: steve86

I understand, however it is hard to explain that to a liberal. To them social experimentation is social experimentation.


23 posted on 02/14/2010 5:38:23 PM PST by chargers fan
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To: Brices Crossroads

i am very disappointed in cheney.


24 posted on 02/14/2010 5:38:33 PM PST by gussiefinknottle (woof!woof!woof!)
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To: cliff630

I just lost my dinner.


25 posted on 02/14/2010 5:38:43 PM PST by NoKoolAidforMe (1-20-09--The Beginning of an Error..............1-20-13--Change we can look forward to)
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To: CincyRichieRich

Attacking our military with the irreversible onslaught of homosexuals is about as bad as it gets, evidently Cheney is not a conservative in some of the most important areas.


26 posted on 02/14/2010 5:38:44 PM PST by ansel12 (Mitt Romney and the Romney family traditionally, is at war with conservatism and traditional America)
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To: grobdriver
The Joint Chiefs are nothing more than politicians wearing uniforms.

Rather broad brush you're using, gomer. Not all of the Chiefs agree with Soetoro, Mullen, and Cheney.

EXCLUSIVE: Marine leads 'Don't ask, don't tell' fight

27 posted on 02/14/2010 5:39:31 PM PST by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: Vigilanteman

This is not social experimentation. Gays are already there. Its just now you will know positivly who they are.


28 posted on 02/14/2010 5:41:22 PM PST by tirednvirginia
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To: ansel12

Attacking our military with the irreversible onslaught of homosexuals is about as bad as it gets, evidently Cheney is not a conservative in some of the most important areas.


Maybe not, but you use what you can get and he produced one great, hard-hitting conservative daughter.


29 posted on 02/14/2010 5:41:56 PM PST by CincyRichieRich (Keep your head up and keep moving forward!)
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To: Brices Crossroads

Of course he does, why not?


30 posted on 02/14/2010 5:44:03 PM PST by BallyBill (WARNING:Taking me serious could cause stress related illness.)
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To: ansel12; All

I cannot believe that Cheney would betray the military this way when they are in the middle of two wars that he and Bush failed to finish. At a minimum, he is making a big mistake. The Joint Chiefs do just what the President tells them. This is no reason to reevaluate a policy like this.. To engage in a social experiment with the finest military in the world and in the middle of two wars is really contemptible.


31 posted on 02/14/2010 5:44:29 PM PST by Brices Crossroads
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To: CincyRichieRich

Some people here expect %100 agreement %100 of the time, or they are RINOs.


32 posted on 02/14/2010 5:44:54 PM PST by Perdogg ("Is that a bomb in your pants, or are you excited to come to America?")
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To: CincyRichieRich

Who gives a care about his family life, we are trying to save the American fighting forces from ruin.

Try and get some sense of scale here.


33 posted on 02/14/2010 5:45:31 PM PST by ansel12 (Mitt Romney and the Romney family traditionally, is at war with conservatism and traditional America)
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To: Brices Crossroads

Seems as though some of the GOP are deciding to throw in the towel and join the liberals.


34 posted on 02/14/2010 5:46:15 PM PST by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: NoKoolAidforMe

there’s ,many
quickly
in survival training we have to share sleeping bags and get body warmth you think I want to do that with homosexuals especially if they have been looking at me anyway

will they then ask for homosexual parties and parades on base?
what if they do and they are refused?

will the chaplain be forced to marry two of the same sex?

will they get housing?

what if a private is having an affair with a SGT or officer and special treatment is given to his boy friend?
what if we are in Afghanistan and that boyfriend is not called on to check out an IED

will special promotions or medals be given?

will they be allowed to go and hold hands or kiss off duty in the bar on base?

imagine that you go for a drink and two of them are in the bar kissing.
will they be allowed to kiss or have sex on base?
if not and they do then what if they are charged, will the homosexual groups come in and say this is not right?

what if and anyone who has served in a fighting unit knows this then there is always fights between friends so what if I get into a fight wiht a homosexual and then he states that I beat him because he is queer, will I now face hate crimes and lose my job and pension because of his lies ?

this is for them to say I can fight and die for this country but I cannot marry or adopt kids.

it’s just another step for them to further their agenda and if anyone cannot see this then they are really dumb.

They say they want their life private well don’t ask gives them that so why are they now saying they want the world to know they’re queer?
for years they have been saying that their sexual life is private and they want the Govt out of it and now they want the Govt to make their private sexual life open.

we do nto share showers with women because women feel uncomfortable with being looked at in the shower so why does a woman or man now have to share a shower with a queer where the normal guy or gal feels uncomfortable

shall we now have cross dressers serving and shall we now have them be able to cross dress on base after work?

crap I coudl go on and on with all of these points and yet they cannot even think of 3 good points to overturn this and show me how this will improve the military.
I’ve not even gone into what we think of them or what will happen if they have sex and get caught or get caught looking at other marines


35 posted on 02/14/2010 5:46:53 PM PST by manc (WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA/THE LEFT BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
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To: Brices Crossroads

bookmark


36 posted on 02/14/2010 5:47:07 PM PST by massmike (...So this is what happens when OJ's jury elects the president....)
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To: Brices Crossroads
Sodomites corrupt everything in which they are involved.
The corrupt the language, gay was a good word and the
surname Gay is great.
They try to corrupt marriage, they corrupt most places
where they can get close to children.
Now the ITS are trying to corrupt our great Military.
37 posted on 02/14/2010 5:47:57 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ((B.?) Hussein (Obama?Soetoro?Dunham?) Change America Will Die From.)
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To: chargers fan

Being born black is not under anyone’s control, it is unchangeable, and it is values neutral.

Homosexuality is a chosen act, disgusting, immoral, filthy, and people who engage is such acts are notorious for other criminal behavior. Homosexuals do not belong in the military.


38 posted on 02/14/2010 5:48:08 PM PST by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: cliff630

Due to being raped?


39 posted on 02/14/2010 5:49:43 PM PST by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: Perdogg

100% agreement

No. You can dispute the size of a tax cut or Supreme Court Justice, but when you start taking a whack at the U.S. Military which keeps us all safe you have crossed a line.


40 posted on 02/14/2010 5:49:47 PM PST by Brices Crossroads
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To: Brices Crossroads

I never served in the military but the rank and file troops need to have their voices heard. Especially in the Army and Marines, there is no privacy such as showering and going #2. The policy should be retained. The views of the soldiers should be a much jigher priority than those of the top brass who are out of touch.


41 posted on 02/14/2010 5:50:21 PM PST by CORedneck
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To: Gay State Conservative
I don't see how you can continue to segregate men and women with respect to public accommodations such as bathrooms and showers, if you are going to accept same sex attracted people using such accommodations.

What is the difference between me taking a public shower (high school, military, local gym)as a male (heterosexual) with a female, and a gay guy showering in my presence.

Let's have equal opportunity. You want gays to have nude public access to the object of their desire, then men and women need to give up the pretense of privacy.

Let it all hang ou!

42 posted on 02/14/2010 5:50:22 PM PST by Awgie (truth is always stranger than fiction)
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To: Perdogg

Of course they do...so much for discussion, even here.


44 posted on 02/14/2010 5:53:25 PM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (Ok, joke's over....Bring back Bush !)
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To: manc
it’s just another step for them to further their agenda and if anyone cannot see this then they are really dumb.

Absolutely correct. And in my estimation, approx 1/3 of this country is really dumb, another 1/3 support the destruction of our nation and eveything it stands for.

We have our work cut out for us to educate and drag the dumb-1/3 over to our side more than 80% of the time.

45 posted on 02/14/2010 5:53:34 PM PST by NewLand (Pray for President Obama...Psalm 109:8)
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To: CORedneck

Yes. According to a poll cited in the comments to the article, 10 to 14% of active duty personnel admit they will not reenlist if this is put across. The number is probably much higher. The is going to damage the security of the entire country.


46 posted on 02/14/2010 5:54:32 PM PST by Brices Crossroads
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To: NoKoolAidforMe

if your surrounded by freaks and perverts then maybe it;s time to move like I got my wife to move out of MA.

I know it’;s hard to move away but maybe it might be the best for the future and piece of mind

homosexuals will never understand the real world, they have been told by their mother etc that they’re normal they then grow up and get told they’re normal off fellow homosexuals
when they hear those who are against them and try to help them they get all drama queened.

The military/boy scouts and the churches have been attacked by the radical left and the homosexuals why?

because they all stand for tradition, conservative values and morals.

If it is about marriage then why don’t the homosexuals move out of states banning them to have their sham marriage?
Will this mean more homosexuals will enlist? course not this is an excuse to leave the military and then say they should be married and get our kids.

They’re all about sex, we’re talking about people who are not that right in the head sexually. Look at them hanging around public bathrooms for any stranger to have sex up their arse for instance.
it’s disgusting so here’s a thought for Cheney and others who want this to be overturned.

go and join the marines for a year and share a room, shower etc with a couple of them and see them touch each other, kiss each other, maybe even catch them having sex .
Then lets see if you’re not repulsed by it by the end of the year.

can you imagine Ft Hood etc and seeing men holding hands and kissing each other
just WTH is that going to look like and how the hell are other soldiers and marines who feel uncomfortable being watched by them now having to put up with them and seeing that?


47 posted on 02/14/2010 5:57:23 PM PST by manc (WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA/THE LEFT BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
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To: manc

Thanks!


48 posted on 02/14/2010 5:57:53 PM PST by NoKoolAidforMe (1-20-09--The Beginning of an Error..............1-20-13--Change we can look forward to)
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To: Brices Crossroads

I still have friends serving and not one of them are for this, I could not even put on here what they said or what would happen

PC has already killed and still the left does not get it


49 posted on 02/14/2010 5:59:09 PM PST by manc (WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA/THE LEFT BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
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To: CincyRichieRich

The children of Republicans are targeted.


50 posted on 02/14/2010 6:01:51 PM PST by donna (The founders of our nation understood "happy" to mean "blessed" by God.)
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