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Judge Gives Miller 30 Days to Transfer Daughter to Former Lesbian Lover or Face Arrest
Life Site News ^ | RUTLAND, VERMONT, January 28, 2010 | Matthew Cullinan Hoffman

Posted on 01/29/2010 11:13:04 AM PST by GonzoII

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To: Essie
"Don’t agree. The woman never adopted this child."

You may not agree, but you're not right. You do not need to adopt a child in the state of Vermont to be entitled to visitation privileges, 15 VS § 1201. Miller, of her own free will, entered into a civil union with this other woman. As such, this woman now enjoys certain parenting rights, per VT law.

"When have you heard of a ex-husband who was not the biological father having legal rights to a child?"

It happens all the time.

41 posted on 01/29/2010 12:28:39 PM PST by OldDeckHand
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To: Sir_Ed
"You actually think this ruling is correct???"

Apparently, you are a liberal as you only want the court to follow the laws that you agree with it. You and Barbara Boxer and Chuck Schumer would get along great.

Conservative-minded judges follow the law. Progressive judges make it up as they go along.

42 posted on 01/29/2010 12:31:04 PM PST by OldDeckHand
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To: Jeb21
"You have no sense of morals and no sense of justice."

That is an insult of the highest order, sir. You are COMPLETELY out of line.

You would have a judge ignore precedent and and the written law to come to a decision that agrees with your particular political point of view. You are a liberal.

43 posted on 01/29/2010 12:32:41 PM PST by OldDeckHand
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To: OldDeckHand

Uh, yeah...I’m a liberal.

Right.

Ed


44 posted on 01/29/2010 12:36:14 PM PST by Sir_Ed
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To: Jeb21
"But the punishment for missed deadline as implemented by the judge is ridiculously unjust."

This isn't a punishment, it's a ruling. This is a civil lawsuit where both parties are responsible for arguing their position. Ms. Miller ELECTED to not participate in the hearing, effectively ceding her case to the plaintiff giving the court no alternative but to rule in favor of the plaintiff.

I am shocked and dismayed that people who cloak themselves in a veil of conservatism are so shocked when a judge rules THE ONLY WAY HE COULD and still follow the law of the land.

Liberals are the people who want the judiciary to ignore the Constitution, common law and precedent and to reach a decision that they feel is just and correct. Feelings are for liberals, laws are for conservatives.

45 posted on 01/29/2010 12:37:37 PM PST by OldDeckHand
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To: OldDeckHand

Perhaps it is you who is the liberal. IBTZ?


46 posted on 01/29/2010 12:40:17 PM PST by darkangel82 (I don't have a superiority complex, I'm just better than you.)
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To: Sir_Ed
"The lesbian wasn’t the child’s mother, instead she was just someone the birth mother had sex with,"

What part of "she entered into a civil union - a legally binding contract - of her own free will" don't you understand. She entered into an agreement with this woman.

It's not the court's prerogative or place to determine if it was a good thing, or a moral decision to enter into such a contract. But, it is the court's obligation to determine the enforceability of such an agreement. The precedent is clear for both the VT judge who initially granted visitation rights to the lesbian partner, and for the VA who followed the appropriate US Federal Law on interstate custody agreements.

Once again, you wish to have the court IGNORE the law to reach a conclusion that you believe to be fair and just. You may not think you're a liberal, but THAT is a liberal argument for their kind of legal system.

47 posted on 01/29/2010 12:43:01 PM PST by OldDeckHand
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To: kimmie7

And the one the child has to be given to ISN’T THE REAL PARENT!


48 posted on 01/29/2010 12:44:11 PM PST by Freddd (CNN is not credible.)
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To: darkangel82
"Perhaps it is you who is the liberal. "

Perhaps it's you who can't understand the elementary aspects of American jurisprudence. Perhaps. IBTI.

49 posted on 01/29/2010 12:44:30 PM PST by OldDeckHand
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To: OldDeckHand

I understand it perfectly. Now run along troll, DU is calling.


50 posted on 01/29/2010 12:46:21 PM PST by darkangel82 (I don't have a superiority complex, I'm just better than you.)
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To: darkangel82
"I understand it perfectly. Now run along troll, DU is calling."

Yeah, I don't think so. Back to your mommy's basement, jerk.

51 posted on 01/29/2010 12:50:24 PM PST by OldDeckHand
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To: massgopguy

P{ersonally I think the Judge should be locked up, but then the only innocent one involved in this mess is the Child.


52 posted on 01/29/2010 1:04:48 PM PST by Venturer
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To: steve-b

“There’s a surprising amount of contempt for law and order on FR....”

Sadly, many people are far more emotion driven than they will admit or even realize.


53 posted on 01/29/2010 1:23:30 PM PST by El Sordo
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To: OldDeckHand

If those states sign the “Uniform Child Abduction Prevention Act” (UCAPA) then they can already take the child.


54 posted on 01/29/2010 1:28:19 PM PST by Pikachu_Dad
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To: Maelstorm

you do understand that she had sought to get ‘child support’ from her ex-lesbian lover !


55 posted on 01/29/2010 1:30:21 PM PST by Pikachu_Dad
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To: steve-b
There’s a surprising amount of contempt for law and order on FR....

There is no moral imperative to obey an unjust law, stevie. And that's just what this is. So can it.
56 posted on 01/29/2010 1:33:36 PM PST by Antoninus (The RNC's dream ticket: Romney / Scozzafava 2012)
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To: tioga

bingo... we have a winner.

the ‘fake christian’ is using us to try to spread gay marriage from one state to another.

that is the purpose of this case and why she undermined her side of it. she wanted to lose.

she is part of the gay marriage crowd.


57 posted on 01/29/2010 1:35:07 PM PST by Pikachu_Dad
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To: Liberty Valance; steve-b
In this case, the law is an ass.

Have you noticed that guys like "steve-b" had nothing but contempt for the law when things like sodomy, porn, and abortion were illegal. But now that they are not only legal, but God-given rights, they suddenly become strict legalists.

Hey stevie, are you still such a strict legalist when it comes to drugs, too?
58 posted on 01/29/2010 1:39:25 PM PST by Antoninus (The RNC's dream ticket: Romney / Scozzafava 2012)
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To: Steve Van Doorn

Who is she related to?


59 posted on 01/29/2010 1:39:37 PM PST by Styria
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To: darkangel82
“I understand it perfectly. Now run along troll, DU is calling.”

Lost the argument so you resort to personal attacks?

While I don’t agree with the law that forced the ruling, I agree with Deckhand that the ruling was correct. I also agree with him that the entire incident was/is the fault of the “birth mother”.

I also agree with him/her that those that want to replace the law with their personal sense of morality are wrong. They are firing from their FEEEEELLLLLLINGS and should consider who currently has their finger on the nation’s nuclear trigger. Do you want to entrust your entire existance on Obama’s personal sense of morality? Or do you want to continue with our current representative form of Government?

60 posted on 01/29/2010 1:39:41 PM PST by RetiredNavy ("Only accurate firearms are interesting")
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