The Great Dictator (Obama And The Left's Resentment Of His Not Being Dictatorial Enough Alert)

Sultan Knish | 1/09/2010 | Sultan Knish

[CalvaryJohn]

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[Zionist Conspirator]

Great article!

[sickoflibs]

RE :”....At the very least, I can safely say a McCain presidency would be very very problematic, and the ramifications not something we'd like to face.” from #18 DoughtyOne

You entire reply #18(reference) deserves to be it's own thread. I am beyond concerned with the current situation. The national failures during the GWB presidential period (ending 2008) added to the choice we were given last year, either McCain or Obama with a democrat congress, and the current state of both parties, leaves me with little hope. There was no real debate between the two candidates last year, no real difficult questions they were forced to answer, both were trying to out-phony each other and Obama won and now cant deliver.

I came to the conclusion back in 2007 that the McCain option of the two choices above would lead to the worst outcomes(no I didnt vote for O not that it would have mattered anyway in this state.) At least now people are starting to realize that it was not just Bush, or McCain or even Obama that was the real problem. Maybe it's that vision that both in each party and independents have as 'Washington as their personal Saviour' that is the big problem. Obama had to win OVER McCain so he could be allowed to fail, and most importantly seen to fail; mainly to show the federal government shouldnt be doing many of the things it is. I know this logic was and is contrary to the 'conservative/RNC' narrative, a great example is at this Levin show post. Do not let Democrats control everything (10/8/08 Mark Levin show Flashback)

And now some of us have our own personal 'conservative' rockstar, Feeling better yet??

[DoughtyOne]

Thank you, and BTW...

I should have used your link. I agree with what you said.

[DoughtyOne]

Thank you.

[DoughtyOne]

Thank you SJB.

[sickoflibs]

RE :”If John McCain were president, what would we be facing in November? Folks, there would be a very good chance we would lose even more seats in the Senate and the House. Not only would we be passing bad legislation, we would be helping the opposition entrench to the point it might be decades before we could gain power again, Congress and White House.”

I have posting the same points so many times it’s tiring. Worth reposting your words.

We would be passing bad legislation where every bad effect would be blamed on Republicans. Remember Bush gave up drilling to pass an energy bill with democrats (Senate 60 votes) ?? Who got the blame for gas prices after that bill? Republicans!

[DoughtyOne]

Absolutely right. Republicans pass leftist legislation thinking it will curry favor with the Democrats, and what do they get for it? I mean Bush was vilified by the left savagely.

That crap buys you nothing at all in the interest of congeniality.

[sickoflibs]

It is always heartwarming to find commonality with those like you that see things outside the flow of simple political narratives(that are labeled as principles yet!).

Being in a liberal stronghold (MD)I am hearing excuses for Obama that sound just like the excuses made for Bush, by those libs here(in MD) that despised Bush. And I am throwing it all back in their faces. Just like I do to Bush-bots here(at FR).

[Don Corleone]

—JFK would be shunned by the left today.

And also by the Republican party for being too conservative. IMHO

[ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas]

If John McCain were president, what would we be facing in November? Folks, there would be a very good chance we would lose even more seats in the Senate and the House. Not only would we be passing bad legislation, we would be helping the opposition entrench to the point it might be decades before we could gain power again, Congress and White House. Under this type of situation Conservatism would be all but non-existent. Right now we're poised to grow our movement considerably. I'm not convinced the Tea Party effort would have been launched or so successful with many of our people supporting McCain if he were president because he would have an (R) after his name.

Great post D1. I can't find the exact posts, but 2 years ago you were predicting election losses for Dems in 2010 if Obama was elected. Now the POTUS's party losing seats in the first midterm is fairly normal, but it looks like voters in this midterm this year will have a remarkable passion.

The Dems won't want to admit it, but I wonder if some of them wish McCain had won in 2008.

[DoughtyOne]

It begins by you telling yourself that he's the best thing to come along in years.  He was a great governor.  He is a Republican.  What more could you ask for?

Others raise questions about how he ruled as governor.  They bring up the tendency to toss money at problems, as if that always fixed them.  You dismiss them as malcontents.  Onward brothers..., full speed ahead.

The issue of immigration is raised.  That is dismissed as the ploy of one issue malcontents.  Onward brothers..., full speed ahead.

You and you brothers shout down everyone out there.  You get your man on the ballot.  And then reality hits home.  All of a sudden, you can't get anyone but your brothers to support the guy.

Lofted in opposition are two of the worst political candidates in our nation's history.  And golden boy can only beat them by what scientists would refer to as 1/100th of the width of one human hair.

Then he procedes to rule as a leftist.  Yes there are bright spots.  Long lists will be made of them.  One of the most important will invarably be that he ties his shoe laces from the right.  Oh, he's quite the guy.

In fact, he does do some good things.  People you shouted down before, recognize them, and are appreciative of them.  Unfortunately they join the Democrats in your mind, when they raise an issue with regard to things he does that are right out of the Democrat's playbook.  Don't they realize how destructive they are, by faulting him?  Nevermind the destructive nature of the things he pushes, it's effects on the nation and the viability of Conservatism.  Onward brothers, full speed ahead.

No matter what issue people rise to voice objection to, they are dismissed as one issue malcontents.  Are they undercover DU plants?  Why they must be.  Everyone at DU is against the illegal immigration bill.  Everyone at DU is against massive spending.  Everyone at DU is against new Great Society programs.  The self-dilusion continues.  Onward brothers..., full speed ahead.

Toward the end of his term in office, a replacement is chosen. It's a man that is even more leftist than him. And you stand behind this man too, because he has an (R) behind his name.  And no matter what anyone says, they are one issue malcontents, if they object.  There is a pattern here, only you and your brothers can't see it.  So onward then brothers, full speed ahead.  Down with one issue malcontents.

And then there's that brick wall Conservatives just won't climb with you.  A man comes along worse than the last two Democrats who ran against your party's nominees, and this time your lackluster Democrat in sheep's clothing can't even take him down.  So F it brothers.  We're a nation without a head.

Dilusion got us here.  Dilusion may get us more dilusional candidates.  They may be wrapped up in fancy packages, and very popular, but it's up to us to honestly see them for who they are.  

We must take on the adult task of accepting reality, and supporting those who share our views.  A person who does, won't blow it half the time or more.  They won't have to think before they act, because Conservatism will come as reflexive to them, as it is does to us.  They will truly honor their oath of office.  They will truly push for smaller more limited governance.  They won't advocate people be rewarded for breaking our nation's laws, and pilfering the national treasury, supported by an every growing share of your and my hard earned income.  And they will not support leftists for public office.

Another winnowing time is just ahead folks.  We have about 18 monts before the selelction process begins in earnest.  Let's keep our eyes open, our minds engaged, and our powder dry.  No need to attack each other just yet.  The sellection will come in due time. Only this time, let's go brothers, unified and stronger, full speed ahead.  And this time PLEASE, in the right direction...

[DoughtyOne]

Well, I would predict you will have about as much success with those Obama supporters as you will with the latter group you mentioned. It’s a shame, but it’s reality.

Hang in there.

[DoughtyOne]

I don’t like the idea of being able to pat you on the back for the last half of that, but I can. And I am. You’re right.

[DoughtyOne]

Thank you for remembering, and yes it is somewhat of a no-brainer the first mid-term election losing Congressional seats. I must say, it’s with pleasure I note those seats will be Democrat this time around.

Imagine a Senate with 65 or more Democrats. Now that is a nightmare. Not only would it exceed the 60 vote threshold, it would do it with room to spare. They could actually lose five seats and still maintain the ability to pass whatever they liked. Now that would be devastating.

Yes, there are obviously Democrats out there who are upset right now. Obama’s actions on Afghanistan must have floored them.

What these short sighted folks don’t understand, is that overtly and behind the scenes too, Obama is laying the foundation for a massive totalitarian state, the likes of which they could have only dreamed of without him.

When I criticized Bush, I tried to take into consideration if he was consolidated power despite doing some bad things. The answer was, no he wasn’t. And thus, he was fair game for criticism from the right.

Obama is not fair game for criticism from the left. He’s setting them up better than they could have ever dreamed, and yet that one or two things he’s not done that they don’t like, leads them to think he’s a total failure. That’s not the case.

The left in this nation is whacked out. It’s like a group psychosis that gets worse with each passing day.

There is no connection to reality with these folks. We’re on the verge of destroying capitalism, self-governance, our long held relationships with the West, our support for Israel, and our own self identity, and this isn’t good enough for the very people who have clamored to achieve all this non-stop since the 60s and 70s. Go figure.

[ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas]

Imagine a Senate with 65 or more Democrats. Now that is a nightmare. Not only would it exceed the 60 vote threshold, it would do it with room to spare. They could actually lose five seats and still maintain the ability to pass whatever they liked. Now that would be devastating.

And with a couple of rogue Republican votes, override a veto or ratify a treaty. But a McCain administration would not send a bad treaty to the senate for ratification.... oh, wait....

[DoughtyOne]

Heh heh heh...

Too true.

[sickoflibs]

RE :”Great post D1. I can't find the exact posts, but 2 years ago you were predicting election losses for Dems in 2010 if Obama was elected”

In this case it wasn't just Obama as bad as he is. It was the huge election win (large majority) and the huge popularity and positive expections and unrealistic promises that made dems, Obama and especially Pelosi think they could ram through any crap they wanted, and that the Obama love-fest would last, and that killed them (er led them to kill themselves more so.) .

Some serious election losses were easy to predict based on 1993-1994. But what I really liked was when Franken got the 60th Senate seat. Contrary to conventional wisdom (see the Levin post) this hurt democrats. Why? Because now Republicans couldnt not get the blame for a failed Health reform bill or a real crappy one everyone hates(assuming one still passed). If republicans had 61 in the spring with O popular and killed it then(a hypothetical) they would have got blamed for the uninsured forever. If we can kill it now with that MA seat it is toxic anyway and Dems will now be destroyed. You see politics is not linear.

Yes, liberals here are blaming republicans anyway. But they are demoralized like we were. That is the sweet part!

[genetic homophobe]

I would have to agree. Also, Sarah Palin would have been sidelined somehow, her efforts at reform would not have been productive.

That said, I think McCain lost on purpose. He suspended his campaign to TARP us, that was the end. He knew it would be.

[DoughtyOne]

I agree with your comments about ownership. The Dems will have nobody to blame but themselves for this health care fiasco. No doubt about it.

I do want to caution you away from terming this a “huge election win (large majority)”. That’s just the narrative from the lamestream media. They want to play up Obama’s support, so that anyone who objects to his nonsensical plans, can be portrayed as unreasoned, or a tiny minority. That’s not true at all.

Obama did get 365 to 173 electoral votes, but that was based on only a 7.2% popular vote spread. If 4,761,042 votes out of 129,391,711 votes had flipped to McCain, it would have been a dead heat. That’s not a large majority. If only 3.67% of the voters who selected Obama had gone to McCain, it would have been a dead heat.

When Reagan beat Carter with 489 to 49 electoral votes, do you think the media constantly reminded folks that Reagan had a right to do as he pleased? Well they didn’t. And Reagan came away with 50.7% to 41.0% of the vote. That’s a 9.7% spread.

When Nixon beat McGovern in 1972, he obliterated him with 520 to 17 electoral votes. That was a 60.7% to 35.5% trouncing, a 23.2% spread. Did the Washington Post and the rest of the media respect the will of the people as they claimed they did when Clinton was in deep do do?

These were mandate wins. Obama’s win was comfortable, but nowhere near a huge election win. He deserves no special consideration based on this comfortable win.