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Rachel Maddow Recycles Falsehoods Against the John Birch Society
The New American ^ | 12/21/09 | Thomas R. Eddlem

Posted on 12/21/2009 11:16:26 AM PST by Rodebrecht

MSNBC's Rachel Maddow launched an error-riddled attack against the John Birch Society in her December 18 show, nominally because the John Birch Society has become a sponsor of the upcoming February 2010 Conservative Political Action Conference in Washington, D.C.

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To: AppyPappy
The JBS used to be an anti-Communist organization but when the USSR bought the farm, they started getting infiltrated by anti-Semites and conspiracy kooks.

The JBS was always filled with conspiracy kooks. They just happened to glom on to a conspiracy that actually existed, though they overreached and alienated the mainstream of conservatism (including Buckley and Goldwater) when they accused Eisenhower of being a communist agent.

21 posted on 12/21/2009 12:10:29 PM PST by ReignOfError
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To: Prokopton

I agree with you and see the downfall of CPAC. Best to leave it to the Birchers and queers (which is the gay’s preferred term, by the way).


22 posted on 12/21/2009 12:14:24 PM PST by Excellence (Meet your new mother-in-law, the United States Government)
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To: Rodebrecht
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23 posted on 12/21/2009 12:14:33 PM PST by Dick Bachert (THE 2010 ELECTIONS ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT IN OUR LIFETIMES! BE THERE!!!)
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To: ansel12

“This table lists the top donors to this candidate in the 2008 election cycle. The organizations themselves did not donate , rather the money came from the organization’s PAC, its individual members or employees or owners, and those individuals’ immediate families.”

From Rodebrecht page.


24 posted on 12/21/2009 12:36:02 PM PST by all the best
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To: all the best; Rodebrecht

Your home page has some inaccuracies, the United States Army, the United States Navy, the United States Air Force, the United States Postal Service, the United States Defense Department, etc. did not help fund the Ron Paul campaign.

You need to rewrite your home page.


25 posted on 12/21/2009 12:48:06 PM PST by ansel12 (Traitor Earl Warren's court 1953-1969, libertarian hero, anti social conservative warrior.)
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To: ansel12; Rodebrecht

“The organizations themselves did not donate , rather the money came from the organization’s PAC, its individual members or employees or owners, and those individuals’ immediate families.”

It’s right there for anybody who can both read and is interested in the truth.


26 posted on 12/21/2009 12:52:27 PM PST by all the best
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To: ansel12

What? It was George Soros right?


27 posted on 12/21/2009 12:54:24 PM PST by Rodebrecht (Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.)
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To: all the best; Rodebrecht
You don't find this just a tad misleading, even after he added the little disclamer at the bottom of the page.

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28 posted on 12/21/2009 1:03:04 PM PST by ansel12 (Traitor Earl Warren's court 1953-1969, libertarian hero, anti social conservative warrior.)
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To: ansel12

NO. Look at the whole picture. The truth is there. It isa not a disclaimer. Just the simple truth. You may not like the truth. Not my problem.


29 posted on 12/21/2009 1:09:22 PM PST by all the best
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To: blackminorca
Lets judge Welch by his work.

He led the charge against communism when nobody did. His followers included Barry Goldwater and many other early conservatives.

"Mr. Welch is only one man, and I do not believe his views, far removed from reality and common sense as they are, represent the feelings of most members of the John Birch Society. . . . Because of this, I believe the best thing Mr. Welch could do to serve the cause of anti-Communism in the United States would be to resign.. . . We cannot allow the emblem of irresponsibility to attach to the conservative banner." - Barry Goldwater

30 posted on 12/21/2009 1:10:00 PM PST by wideminded
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To: all the best

If that is what passes for accuracy in the Ron Paul supporter’s world then it explains much.

Obama could make charts like that, listing the United States Army, the United States Navy etc. instead of just listing donations from voters that work in the military or in the postal service, he could probably even break it down to the United States Navy SEALS, and so on, of course no one would let even him get away with such false charts as these.


31 posted on 12/21/2009 1:23:57 PM PST by ansel12 (Traitor Earl Warren's court 1953-1969, libertarian hero, anti social conservative warrior.)
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To: ansel12

Hahahahahahaha! Those charts come from OpenSecrets.org and were compiled with information from the FEC.


32 posted on 12/21/2009 1:26:00 PM PST by Rodebrecht (Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.)
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To: wideminded

Actually, Goldwater resisted WFB’s efforts to banish Welch.

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Moving on, Baroody brought up the John Birch Society. It was quickly obvious that this was the subject Goldwater wished counsel on.

Kirk, unimpeded by his little professorial stutter, greeted the subject with fervor. It was his opinion, he said emphatically, that Robert Welch was a man disconnected from reality. How could anyone reason, as Welch had done in The Politician, that President Eisenhower had been a secret agent of the Communists? This mischievous unreality was a great weight on the back of responsible conservative political thinking. The John Birch Society should be renounced by Goldwater and by everyone else—Kirk turned his eyes on me—with any influence on the conservative movement.

But that, Goldwater said, is the problem. Consider this, he exaggerated: “Every other person in Phoenix is a member of the John Birch Society. Russell, I’m not talking about Commie-haunted apple pickers or cactus drunks, I’m talking about the highest cast of men of affairs.
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The bottom line is that there WERE commies in the govt and Welch and McCarthy and Patton and Forrestal were right.


33 posted on 12/21/2009 1:30:12 PM PST by blackminorca
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To: Rodebrecht

The United States Army, the United States Navy, the United States Air Force, the United States Postal Service, the United States Defense Department, etc. did not help fund the Ron Paul campaign.


34 posted on 12/21/2009 1:30:38 PM PST by ansel12 (Traitor Earl Warren's court 1953-1969, libertarian hero, anti social conservative warrior.)
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To: ansel12

No ones saying they did.


35 posted on 12/21/2009 1:32:44 PM PST by Rodebrecht (Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.)
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To: ReignOfError

That quote about Eisenhower is not a simple issue since:

1) Welsh said it off the record and later retracted it in his published book.

2) Welsh went to great pains to explain that Eisenhower did more to grease the skids for the genocide of 100 million than any other westerner and as such, that made him an agent of communism.

Sounds about right to me - I think anyone that got in the way of Patton was a traitor.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/972500/posts


36 posted on 12/21/2009 1:45:54 PM PST by blackminorca
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To: SoCalPol

“the Birchers are also anti war”

What war?


37 posted on 12/21/2009 1:46:39 PM PST by blackminorca
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To: blackminorca

“Off the record” is a bit of an overstatement. It was in a letter, not intended for publication, but fairly widely distributed; his comments on Eisenhower as published remained damning, but omitted the accusation that he was a willing agent of the USSR.

By 1965, Buckley, Goldwater and Reagan all took pains to distance themselves from the JBS, which says more about their role in the conservative movement than anything you or I could say on the matter here.


38 posted on 12/21/2009 7:13:11 PM PST by ReignOfError
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To: blackminorca
>>>“the Birchers are also anti war”

What war?

Amy that involves US troops being sent outside our borders.

39 posted on 12/21/2009 7:24:31 PM PST by ReignOfError
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To: ReignOfError

Iraq was a war. We won it.
Viet Nam was a war. We won it.
Trying to nanny Afghanistan is not a war.


40 posted on 12/22/2009 10:08:20 AM PST by blackminorca
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