Posted on 12/21/2009 10:43:04 AM PST by Jim Robinson
How is it affordable for people with no insurance? This doesn’t go online for YEARS.
They are still without insurance. Solved NOTHING.
“Oh, please.
The AMA represents about 30% of the physicians in this country and is struggling to maintain that number. They DO NOT represent the predominant political and professional face of physicians.”
Exactly. And, as the husband of 29 years of a very hard-working, conscientious, caring, selfless general surgeon, I resent the general implications made in this thread about physicians being self-serving as politicians. My wife is doing her part to educate her patients who are concerned about what Obama and the criminal democrats are trying to do to all Americans.
The AMA on the other hand is a shrinking relic of a bygone time that has no relevance to practicing physicians. It has become a lobbying organization that looks out for itself, rather than dues-paying members.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-tc-nw-lobbying-ama-0912-0913sep13,0,7112379.story
WASHINGTON - — Some 60 years ago, bannering charges of “socialized medicine,” the American Medical Association led a devastatingly successful campaign against President Harry Truman’s effort to pass the first comprehensive health care overhaul of modern times.
In the years that followed, the AMA became a lobbying powerhouse that frustrated health care initiatives by Democrats and Republicans alike. Armed with deep pockets, a matchless grass-roots network and the unusual credibility that doctors traditionally enjoyed with patients, the AMA turned back almost every plan to revamp health care.
But this time, the voice of America’s doctors is on the other side — working not to defeat President Barack Obama’s proposals but to get them enacted into law.
“They were bought off,” he says of the doctors’ organization. “And the price tag was $228 billion.”
Just as the SEIU does not serve it’s members, only communism...... Just as ACORN does not serve the impoverished, only communism....Just as AARP does not serve the elderly, only communism...... so, too, does the AMA serve only communism.
I am reminded of a cartoon I saw 20 or 30 years ago.
Two men were sitting in the back of a chauffer driven limousine smoking expensive (Cuban?) cigars. The cartoon made it clear they were doctors. One doctor turned to the other and said “And to think we opposed Medicare for all those years.” The updated cartoon would say “And to think we opposed socialized medicine (single payer?) for all these years.
That is why they are supporting it-but I think they will come to regret this decision.
So, you're right; not every physician favors this karp.
If the AMA wanted to make it more affordable, they’d be asking the Democrats why there isn’t tort reform in the bill to reduce the money paid (and insurance needed) because of trial lawyers.
I didn't check my numbers and didn't need to. You make the point that I do. The AMA does not represent any but a tiny minority of physicians.
My premiums TRIPLE!
Don’t pay them, pay the $750 annual penalty for not having insurance and cover your normal med costs in out of pocket cash. If you need expensive healthcare later on, just sign up for the govt option, they have to accept you on day one. Its not insurance anymore, its free healthcare.
That's my understanding too.
"The AMA represents 17 percent to 19 percent of American physicians. [A] large percentage are either retired nonpracticing doctors, medical students, practicing academics, or they are in government policy positions," says Kathryn Serkes of the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons.
When added to the EPA’s taking carbon emissions into their own hands, it will raise a family's heating/cooling bill (obviously, depending on the size of the home) from $700 to $3500 (you can figure out where your home falls).
This means that the average family can look for a minimum of $7,000 in increased costs (and those making $250,000 or more a year can look to higher taxes) as a reward for enforced largess.
When you add to that the fact that none of this addresses what's really wrong with the health care system, it doesn't curtail dependence on foreign oil, it doesn't satisfy anyone on either the right or the left, will bankrupt already strained businesses, I'd say these folks have managed the trifecta — complete and total failure.
There are no words to convey the horror and total disgust I feel. If any of the people responsible for this legislation are able to go home and feel they have delivered the goods, I hope we are able to disabuse them of their misconception ASAP.
I've heard the same, but I'd bet that the number is dwindling even further now since the AMA has been pushing communist medicine on us.
I expect 15-20% of our medical community to take early retirement if this debacle passes. I hope that the medical community stages a strike or work slowdown to protest. At the minimum.
I know that if I were a doctor, I'd be adjusting my scheduling so that any liberals that might be my patients would get very poor service or would have to find another office.
don’t leave out the Lawyers...
You are correct. Most doctors are not in the AMA the same way that most lawyers are not in the ABA. Both are special interest groups that have nothing to do with the boots-on-the-ground professionals in the field. Two of my doctors offices actually had anti-healthcare bill petitions in them that they were asking their patients to sign.
So why can’t FOX NEWS have representatives from The Association of American Physicans & Surgeons on to give a rebuttal to the AMA?
Yup. I think it’s time to start organizing and training our local militias. At the current rate of socialist/globalist takeover, we’ll soon be needing to defend what’s left of our Liberty and our nation.
The AMA and the AARP are commie organizations.
People who are really interested in healing (or teaching or even spreading the Gospel) aren't motivated to put the effort into advancing into leadership positions of bureaucracies such as the AMA (or NEA or the National Council of Churches) so the ones that do advance are the ones that might have letters after their name like M.D. but are not a bit interested in the doing the hard work of putting what they have learned into practice, but want the soft jobs where they work three hours a day mostly attending catered luncheons.
Why do you assume that the AMA represents doctors. They are a leftwing organization that represents nothing but their own left wing agenda.
I’ve never been a member and I will never be.
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