Posted on 12/20/2009 1:16:36 PM PST by BCrago66
Maybe on January 21st, 2013, we can start changing it. Before then it would take 2/3 of both houses of Congress to overcome Obama’s veto. Now it’s possible that a Democrat wipe-out in the 2010 elections, plus public pressure, will convince Obama not to veto some changes, in exchange for him getting what he wants on some other issue. But Obama appears to be pretty ideologically committed.
Sen Harkin lying. Asking for vote to go at 9AM but have the hours from 1AM - 9AM count towards the next 30 hour time frame.
Rep Sen objected.
Harkin is THE biggest DRAMA QUEEN in the Senate. He’s just a smarmy actor lie.
HARKIN = LIAR
Many Senators are now asking for the same deal as Nebraska for Medicaid. The AL Sen asked on behalf of CA - as CA doesn’t have the 2 BILLION to fund their Medicaid portion this new bill would require.
Rep Senators are on record asking for same deal Neb has in regards to 100% indefinite reimbursement for Nebraska’s Medicaid program.
It’s all politics all the time for the Libs.
Would be shock and awe if a sleeper Dem voted against it.
So if much of the Bill is unconstitutional, along with many bribes along the way, can this Bill be negated in the future?
Doesn’t it start taxing much earlier though?
Sen Stabenow BASHING Repulicans.
Stabenow is a hater. Libs are party of No-Clue.
They are jamming this through so that O can brag during his SOTU address. Some arbitrary date they selected, Christmas.
Bragging that the Dems have bulldozed the Reps.
She just blamed Reps for high deficit.
Sen Debbie Whiner Stabenow. Michigan must be horrified by her whining representation.
Deals and arrogant bragging about how they’ve run over the Republicans this year.
Sen Stabenow is giving a preview of O’s SOTU address, she is running down all the Lib’s bills. She’s giving many of the 101 so called Rep objections. No doubt this will be O’s SOTU all the while throwing Reps under the bus. Bragging and spitting on Reps at the same time.
The Libs are pathetic. They let the Libs stand up there alone and rant, but when it’s a Rep’s time to speak, someone sits behind Rep Senator, Sen Hatch currently to distract.
He reading, shuffling papers behind Hatch. Writing moving around. Drinking water, this is a joke.
Libs are the new SNL in the Senate.
Could someone get screen caps of the intentional distractions the Libs are doing behind the Reps when they are speaking?
The provisions of major bills are “severable,” to use legal language. That means if one provision, e.g., the individual mandate, is deemed unconstitutional, then all remaining provisions, e.g., the subsidies, and the new insurance regulations, etc., remain intact.
However, killing one portion of the bill might have the practical effect of killing the entire scheme. Insurance companies cannot survive the requirement to fund care for those with pre-existing conditions, unless there’s a giant risk pool created by the individual mandate to buy health insurance. But that might not cause Democrats to scrap requirement to fund pre-existing conditions, because many or most of them are likely inclined to let private health insurance die, as a prelude to a government run single-payer system.
Arrogant bullies
Any news?
Bill Nelson right now.
The last hour of debate on this health care bill.
Oh! The horror! He’s saying the republicans are criticizing the bill
by taking certain specifics and talking about them!
I’m not making this up folks.
These people are dumber than rocks.
Senator Nelson: it’s called “debate” which your side limited.
Okay.
This Nelson character
is saying that it’s great that the Medical loss ratio has to be
80%. Like it’s a great thing.
Uh, if it’s not 80% they get penalized.
Real teeth on insurance companies.
Uh, I don’t know Bill. It seems to be you are just going to get
some creative accounting like your darn bill 10 years of revenue,
but 7 years of expenditures.
Karl Marx would be proud.
This dude is jumping up and down about 80% percent medical loss
ratio. dude, it’s called an expense ratio in 401(k).
I use Vanguard. You can get the expense ratio of any fund.
Ask them. It’s in their literature. It’s the consumers responsibility.
So now we have to mandate under threat of federal govt.
the insurance companies. I’m the federal government
and I’m going to save you.
RUN AWAY. RUN AWAY>
Bill, you’re killing me.
Thanks for the help; I finally got control of the TV.
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