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Ron Paul Calls for Competition in Money
New American ^ | 12/11/09 | JOHN F. MCMANUS

Posted on 12/13/2009 10:00:52 AM PST by FromLori

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1 posted on 12/13/2009 10:00:52 AM PST by FromLori
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To: FromLori; perchprism; LomanBill; JDoutrider; tired1; Maine Mariner; demsux; April Lexington; ...

ping related

Americans Are Furious at Wall Street

http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/09_51/b4160000035262.htm?campaign_id=bwdaily_related

Militia groups creating their own currency — again

http://www.dailyfinance.com/2009/12/12/militia-groups-creating-their-own-currency-again/


2 posted on 12/13/2009 10:02:57 AM PST by FromLori (FromLori)
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To: FromLori

In the long run there are no monopolies.


3 posted on 12/13/2009 10:04:46 AM PST by Raycpa
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To: FromLori

The fact that we’ve lost sight of what sound money is, is the primary reason we have out of control big government.

Time to wake up, America!


4 posted on 12/13/2009 10:08:25 AM PST by Swing_Thought (The doorstep to the temple of wisdom is a knowledge of our own ignorance. - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: FromLori

Great idea, but next to impossible to implement with a congress that is more than willing to inflate our currency with every bill.


5 posted on 12/13/2009 10:08:50 AM PST by 1776 Reborn
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To: 1776 Reborn

Bernanke Prescribing ‘Poison’ to U.S. Economy, Andy Xie Says

http://news.businessweek.com/article.asp?documentKey=1376-KUBE8F1A74E9-15

Joyce warns of US ‘Armageddon’

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/national/joyce-warns-of-us-armageddon-20091211-kmlu.html


6 posted on 12/13/2009 10:10:59 AM PST by FromLori (FromLori)
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To: FromLori

Watch Ron Paul this Tuesday, December 15, as he co-hosts CNBC’s Squawk Box from 8-9am eastern.


7 posted on 12/13/2009 10:16:11 AM PST by onyx
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To: onyx

Thanks I will.


8 posted on 12/13/2009 10:17:10 AM PST by FromLori (FromLori)
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To: mnehring; Allegra
Should I go with the silver version

Or Amir's chocolate ones, which I can eat? Ever notice that they sell everything for cost? Odd, for capitalists.



Amir, a brilliant young MIT student, has produced chocolate Ron Paul coins to spread the word and get our man elected. He is currently selling them at cost. However, he is using the likeness of Bernard von NotHaus' existing gold and silver Ron Paul Liberty Dollar coins to help sell the chocolate ones. Bernard's website states "All Rights Reserved". This is a problem.

Bernard's email

RE: Ron Paul Liberty Dollar Chocolates
http://ronpaulchocolate.com/

I am interested, amused and concerned... If you intend to use my copyrighted designs and/or the trademark: LIBERTY DOLLAR, please contact me immediately. If you are going to do this... it must be done right... with permission.

Bernard von NotHaus
Monetary Architect

9 posted on 12/13/2009 10:20:37 AM PST by SJackson (In wine there is wisdom, In beer there is freedom, In water there is bacteria.)
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To: FromLori

There is one potential flaw with having congress seek more control over the Fed and that is it may give congress the opportunity to directly manipulate the money supply. If politicians make the decisions you can be certain that temporary expediency will replace even a pretense of maintaining sound money.

You also might want to check out a book: “The Great Wave : Price Revolutions and the Rhythm of History” by David Hacket Fisher. It looks back over centuries of government manipulation and debasement of currencies and the results. It might surprise you.


10 posted on 12/13/2009 10:25:07 AM PST by Libertarianize the GOP (Make all taxes truly voluntary)
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To: Libertarianize the GOP

I agree even Ron Paul has expressed his concerns in this area. It is not likely to happen anyway though unless we totally collapse.


11 posted on 12/13/2009 10:28:22 AM PST by FromLori (FromLori)
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To: FromLori
But, today, the only legal money is fiat money issued by the Federal Reserve that is deemed money by law.

Some anti-Fed people advocate the printing of paper "fiat money" directly by the mint. What is the difference between the two?

This is a sincere question, not a "taunt."

12 posted on 12/13/2009 10:29:27 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Vaya`an Yosef 'et-Par`oh le'mor bil`aday; 'Eloqim ya`aneh 'et-shelom Par`oh.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

I see no difference myself so I can’t answer that I think we should print our own money if we are going to print backed by nothing why pay all that interest on our debt to central bankers and still have to pay to bail them out and pay interest on bailing them out on top of it all.


13 posted on 12/13/2009 10:34:35 AM PST by FromLori (FromLori)
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“...how stupid and unjust it would be if a sales tax were charged every time a person exchanged a ten dollar bill for a roll of quarters.”

I wouldn’t give them any more ideas.


14 posted on 12/13/2009 10:45:46 AM PST by tired1 (When the Devil eats you there's only one way out.)
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To: FromLori
I see no difference myself so I can’t answer that I think we should print our own money if we are going to print backed by nothing why pay all that interest on our debt to central bankers and still have to pay to bail them out and pay interest on bailing them out on top of it all.

Thank you for your thoughts. Admittedly, finance is not my strong suit.

I know that Lincoln printed money during the Civil War (the Greenbacks) and that others such as Thaddeus Stevens thought that the mint rather than banks should print money.

The one thing that aggravates me about this subject, though, is when people invoke the Communist Manifesto as authorizing something like the Fed. The CM calls for a state bank, not a "private" bank. One would think that a private bank would be the antithesis of what Marx wanted. What he was describing was something like a nationalized Fed (which was actually advocated by Father Coughlin in the Thirties).

Thank you again.

15 posted on 12/13/2009 10:51:43 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Vaya`an Yosef 'et-Par`oh le'mor bil`aday; 'Eloqim ya`aneh 'et-shelom Par`oh.)
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To: FromLori
Yet we don't hear a peep about this from our fearless leaders. It's pretty scary when the only fiscally sound warnings we hear are from the gallery.
16 posted on 12/13/2009 10:52:25 AM PST by 1776 Reborn
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To: FromLori
Gold is Money. Thats it.

- J.P. Morgan

17 posted on 12/13/2009 11:12:36 AM PST by Poison Pill
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To: Zionist Conspirator

I suppose but then again Marx was a Liar and said it was acceptable to Lie to achieve their goals, kind of like the Muslims they too say it is acceptable to Lie. Have you ever watched the film the capitalist conspiracy?

This is an excellent video. If you have read End Run or you know anything at all about the people who want a New World Order this is a must watch. Think Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan, Federal Reserve. It seems perplexing to people that firms like Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan donated so heavily to Obama.

Well to those who realize it these banks funded Acorn, Black Panthers, etc. Rather interesting combination of characters this film explains the usefulness and the real agenda of doing so.

It seems to be in direct contrast to rational thought that they would indeed help destroy Capitalism but these men are not true Capitalists they are Socialists with the desire to rule the world. This film explains it all.

Make it look like Government Control to keep it in their hands! Exactly what we see Obama doing now. It explains the role of The Council of Foreign Relations, the use of mainstream news. This is a must watch video take the time and watch it all.

http://vodpod.com/watch/1092763-capitalist-conspiracy-an-inside-view-of-international-banking?pod=fromloris

The Secret Truth About Karl Marx and His Disciples

http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article14535.html

Government Is Trying to Make Bailouts for the Giant Banks PERMANENT

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2009/10/government-trying-to-create-permanent.html

http://www.garynorth.com/public/5156.cfm

http://www.theendrun.com/2009/clinton-quigley-and-the-new-world-order/

http://www.nlpc.org/stories/2009/09/15/jpmorgan-chase-asked-stop-funding-acorn

http://www.nlpc.org/stories/2009/09/21/bank-america-acorn-‘partner’-and-major-funder

http://www.nlpc.org/stories/2009/09/27/taxpayer-owned-citigroup-still-bankrolling-acorn

http://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/summary.php?id=D000000085


18 posted on 12/13/2009 11:27:06 AM PST by FromLori (FromLori)
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To: FromLori

bttt


19 posted on 12/13/2009 12:02:44 PM PST by TEXOKIE (Anarchy IS the strategy of the forces of darkness!)
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To: Libertarianize the GOP
I read a Review that states:

"Today, we face another devastating wave of inflation: "after 1975...ratios of wealth inequality reached their highest levels in four centuries of American history....The principal victims [are]...the young people who ha[ve] no hope for the future and no memory of better times in the past. The result [is] a rapid growth of alienation, anomie, confusion, and despair." Fischer combines a lively narrative with cogent analysis and sound advice. Essential for scholarly collections, this fine book will also be appreciated by lay readers.?David Keymer, California State Univ., Stanislaus, Calif."

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But today young people are better off then baby boomers that just had all they own devalued. No?

20 posted on 12/13/2009 12:05:47 PM PST by NoLibZone (If Reagan rises & runs I'll vote. Pure Conservative™ know it's better to have Obama, Ayers & Soros.)
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