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Atom smasher catches 1st high-energy collisions (during Large Haldron Collider test runs)
AP on Yahoo ^ | 12/9/09 | Alexander G. Higgins - ap

Posted on 12/09/2009 9:07:22 PM PST by NormsRevenge

GENEVA – The world's largest atom smasher has recorded its first high-energy collisions of protons, a spokeswoman said Wednesday.

Physicists hope those collisions will help them understand suspected phenomena such as dark matter, antimatter and ultimately the creation of the universe billions of years ago, which many theorize occurred as a massive explosion known as the Big Bang.

The collisions occurred Tuesday evening as the Large Haldron Collider underwent test runs in preparation for operations next year, said Christine Sutton of the European Organization for Nuclear Research, or CERN.

Two beams of circulating particles traveling in opposite directions at 1.18 trillion electron volts produced the collisions, she said. The Atlas "experiment," one of four major detectors in cathedral-sized rooms in the collider's underground tunnel at Geneva, had part of its equipment turned on and could register collisions.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: atomsmasher; collisions; cosmology; hadron; highenergy; lhc; particleaccelerator; particlecollider; particlephysics; physicalcosmology; physics; quantumphysics; science; theoreticalphysics

A view of the control center at CERN as they set a world record by accelerating beams to the highest energy ever achieved in a particle collider, November 30, 2009. REUTERS/CERN/Handout


1 posted on 12/09/2009 9:07:23 PM PST by NormsRevenge
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VIDEO: Atom smashers on quest for Big Bang. Originally filed 140509. Duration: 02: 23(AFPTV)


2 posted on 12/09/2009 9:08:14 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. May yur bandwidth exceed your girth)
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To: NormsRevenge
Physicists hope those collisions will help them understand suspected phenomena such as dark matter

I could tell them everything they need to know about "dark matter(TM)" right now without all the hassle and expense; the stuff basically doesn't exist, other than in the minds of people locked into bad science paradigms.

3 posted on 12/09/2009 9:10:41 PM PST by wendy1946
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To: NormsRevenge

How much carbon does this produce and how will it feed the hungry and save the planet?/s


4 posted on 12/09/2009 9:10:54 PM PST by Dallas59 (No To O -Time is going by really really really really slow.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Did anyone else just pass out for two and a half minutes and see six months into the future?

Good new is health care hasn’t passed yet. Bad news is they are still working on it.


5 posted on 12/09/2009 9:12:09 PM PST by Domandred (Fdisk, format, and reinstall the entire .gov system. I am Jim Thompson.)
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To: NormsRevenge
1.18 trillion electron volts

How many amps in this and what do they do with the energy after they collide do they like light up a city for a nano minute or what?

6 posted on 12/09/2009 9:26:58 PM PST by guitarplayer1953 (Romak 7.62X54MM, AK47 7.62X39MM, LARGO 9X23MM, HAPINESS IS A WARM GUN BANG BANG YEA YEA)
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To: wendy1946

I have always thought that most of theoretical physics is nothing more than science fiction with an endowment. I may be slow but I do not understand how scientist can create fields of math to solve the imaginary problems they put forth.


7 posted on 12/09/2009 9:29:42 PM PST by LukeL (Yasser Arafat: "I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize")
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To: NormsRevenge

Perhaps these experiments can prove that something like dark matter and dark energy exists?

That would put a wrench into the mindset of those who hold to the naturalistic philosophy of materialism (the matter that we experience is the only real thing in the universe).

If the universe is made up of 95 percent dark matter and energy, as some theorists believe, then we only have experience with 5 percent what what is real out there.

That means that the other worlds (heaven) of Christian faith would have a scientific basis — making life after more plausible.

I just finished a cool book “Life After Death, the Evidence.” That is what Denesh Dezua argues.

That “there are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy”

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=34270


8 posted on 12/09/2009 9:40:33 PM PST by garjog (Used to be liberals were just people to disagree with. Now they are a threat to our existence.)
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To: guitarplayer1953

1.18 trillion electron volts = 1.89056823 × 10-7 joules


9 posted on 12/09/2009 9:41:45 PM PST by The Magical Mischief Tour
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

Is that enough to light a light bulb?


10 posted on 12/09/2009 9:52:29 PM PST by guitarplayer1953 (Romak 7.62X54MM, AK47 7.62X39MM, LARGO 9X23MM, HAPINESS IS A WARM GUN BANG BANG YEA YEA)
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To: garjog

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JgpARGvBnc


11 posted on 12/09/2009 9:56:42 PM PST by Irisshlass
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To: NormsRevenge
1.18 trillion electron volts

What rod should I use and does the metal need any special prep?

12 posted on 12/09/2009 10:05:05 PM PST by fso301
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To: wendy1946

Are you a physicist?

Do you have an explanation for the mass-matter discrepancy in galaxies?


13 posted on 12/09/2009 10:12:57 PM PST by camerakid400
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To: camerakid400
Do you have an explanation for the mass-matter discrepancy in galaxies?

CRU did the calcs?

14 posted on 12/09/2009 10:18:18 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Any tie-in to the mysterious lights seen over Norway? Was my first thought when I saw them, and now to see this article... Hmmm...

PS - I am serious. Search the web to see for yourself...


15 posted on 12/09/2009 10:20:19 PM PST by cliniclinical (space for rent)
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To: NormsRevenge

bump


16 posted on 12/09/2009 10:20:36 PM PST by Captain Beyond (The Hammer of the gods! (Just a cool line from a Led Zep song))
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To: guitarplayer1953
1.18 trillion electron volts

This is the kinetic energy of each particle in the ring, and is to be compared to the "rest energy" of the particle given by E=mc2. For protons, this is about 1 Gev, so they have 1000 times as much kinetic energy as rest energy.

Nevertheless, I'm sure the thing draws plenty of power. According to Wikipedia, each of the two beams carries 362 million joules = 100.555556 kw-hrs ( hmmmmmm ), and I'm sure that's the tip of the iceberg for power consumption.

Ah, here you go: LHC Energy consumption . "CERN predicted total for the year 2009 with LHC fully operational is around 1000 GWh"

... and BTW, it's HADRON ... sheesh.

17 posted on 12/09/2009 10:50:30 PM PST by dr_lew
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To: guitarplayer1953
I have always thought that most of theoretical physics is nothing more than science fiction with an endowment. I may be slow but I do not understand how scientist can create fields of math to solve the imaginary problems they put forth.

Depends on how long it takes to expend that much energy. A joule is a watt-second. so that much energy would light a 1.89 watt LED for 10-7 seconds (0.0000001 seconds) Of course that's the energy of each proton, and their are lots of protons in the beast, even if the beam is really, really "thin".

18 posted on 12/09/2009 11:08:31 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: El Gato

oops replied to wrong post. Should have been to guitarplayer1953’s question about light bulbs.


19 posted on 12/09/2009 11:17:59 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: El Gato

oops replied to wrong post. Should have been to guitarplayer1953’s question about light bulbs.


20 posted on 12/09/2009 11:18:08 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: camerakid400

Bushes Fault.


21 posted on 12/09/2009 11:26:19 PM PST by plinyelder ("If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." Thomas Paine)
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To: camerakid400

Galaxies are held together by electromagnetic forces. There’s obviously no way in hell gravity could hold them together, with or without “dark matter(TM)”.


22 posted on 12/10/2009 4:49:48 AM PST by wendy1946
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