Posted on 12/08/2009 3:42:02 AM PST by rabscuttle385
No, no... we mustn't RE-take control over an existing party that already agrees with us on most things, and already has an existing and powerful apparatus to help us get done what needs to get done.
Oh, no ... instead, we must take a "principled stand," call the GOP names and pout and all that sort of crap, and relegate ourselves to irrelevance. The same idiocy, in other words, that made Ross Perot the turd in the 1992 punchbowl.
The late Sam Francis, that grumpy old pundit, used to call Republicans "The Stupid Party" for just these sorts of reasons....
Well said!
Stopping the healthcare bill, repealing the Porkulous, stopping Cap and Tax. But most importantly stopping BHO dead in his tracks. We stopped the Clintons in 1994, we can stop BHO in 2010. But we must work together. The OVERWHELMING majority of Republicans in the both the House and Senate voted against the Porkulous, voted against healthcare, and voted against Cap and Tax. Just because we continue to have a small handfull like Snowe and Collins, that doesn’t mean the whole Party is bad. There are ALWAYS a few bad apples in every major institution.
Four years ago some GOP candidates didn't WANT Bush campaigning for them.
Agreed.
Conservatives need to simply stay home and keep their mouths and their checkbooks shut rather than vote for the squishy liberals the party apparatus puts up as candidates. Eventually, the party apparatus may get the message.
Granted, but if memory serves, Mark Early’s request got a ‘we don’t campaign with losers’ comment from one of Bush’s doofus staffers. I guess arrogance comes with the territory inside the Beltway.
Wrong. "Sending a message" does nothing except surrender to those who aren't conservatives.
Conservatives need to get their asses out of their typing chairs and start working their way into positions of party leadership again.
Libertarians are even less organized than anarchists. At least anarchists can be lured with promises of free stuff.
OTOH, what frustrates many in the Tea Party is that the GOP frequently talks the talk, but only during election years. The essential message of the Tea Partiers is to reduce the size and take of government. The Republican hierarchy is inherently of the Rockefeller bent, which is socially liberal and has no problem with government largess, as long as it’s to the right people.
With the socialists of the Rat party, government is their god, so they work, live and eat it. With libertarians, they ignore government whenever possible.
Personally, I will not make contributions to the RNCC, but will make individual contributions to candidates I support. I won’t disparage the rest of the Republicans (exception, McCain and Graham, as they spend more time attacking their own people than they do the opposition.) The advantage of a Rino over a Blue Dog is that the party apparatus can pull them in for needed votes. With a Blue Dog, they WILL vote for what Pelosi wants when it counts.
I like the idea posted on this thread of the Tea Party working as a coalition within the Republican party.
Yes, but isn't that essentially what it is already doing?
Also, I thought the "tea party" protests were meant to be non-partisan as far as Republican or Democrat was concerned? That's what I thought I heard Glenn Beck say. Publicly declaring an intent to work with only one party might scare away the nincompoops who still think of themselves as Democrats.
“Also, I thought the “tea party” protests were meant to be non-partisan as far as Republican or Democrat was concerned?”
Having Sarah Palin as their keynote speaker at their first convention will put that notion to rest for good.
Fine with me. If they don't like Sarah Palin, they're probably too confused to know WHAT they are or what they stand for, and we don't want them. On the other hand, if they do like Sarah Palin, then hopefully they will help make her President in 2012. Win win.
They DO have someplace to go on Primary Day, by fielding conservative challengers to RINO incumbents. For extreme RINOs (like Snowe), perhaps it WOULD be better if an openly Leftist Dem won the seat.
That bears repeating...an excellent point.
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