Posted on 12/07/2009 7:30:12 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
The current treatment of young-age creationists in the scientific community and society at large is unfair and unwise. Scientists and philosophers of science, including old-age creationists and naturalists, should respect youngage creationists as legitimate contributors to science. Young-age creationists offer to the current origins science establishment a competing rational viewpoint that will augment fruitful scientific investigation through increased accountability for scientists, introduction of original hypotheses and general epistemic improvement...
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You’ve OD’d again!
>>Thanks, that is about the nicest thing you have ever said to me, FD! No need to check with the mods, I will take your word for it :o)<<
Did we have a moment there?
Seriously, I’ll try to be as good as I can, but I can only be as good I can be.
Keyword tagging (I didn’t even know about until I was accused the other day), is just spamming. People may get mad at me, but at least they know it was me what said what I said.
>>You’ve OD’d again!<<
Just waiting for that alternate scientific explanation... any time now...
At your limited cognitive level, I guess that’s called debate.
I’m sure. I checked immediately after I posted it and they weren’t there.
Good point. Maybe we’re totally wrong, and the earth only 5,000-10,000 years old. The scientific community needs to listen to everyone: scientologists (who believe we descended from clams), Native Americans who believe many animals came from people, Hindus who think Lord Vishnu, protected by a giant cobra, created the world, philosophers in Hyde Park, and guys that hang out under bridges.
Have you read the creationist critiques of the non-empirical, long-age assumptions that are built into evo radiometric dating methods?
>>How long do you think they would last if they threw their hat in the ring of the science? I should think that neither creationists or evolutionists have anything to fear from any of the long-since discredited disciplines you mentioned above.<<
Those are analogies. Creationism meets the same number of scientific criteria as they do.
If you posit a scientific theory is wrong, you need a replacement that is 100% science and explains the extant data.
Depends on the methods/experients used in the process.
Scientific methods can be used to prove that a form of intelligence created computers (if anyone needed such proof). If scientific methods can also be used to prove that a form of intelligence created the cell let them proceed in the name of science.
The scientific community has no time for evolution, nor ‘debate’ that attempts to hang that nonsense on science like a tarbaby.
I didn't see anyone mention your name. Why so defensive?
One could be led to think that you have a guilty conscience that way.
You know, the old *Throw a rock over the fence* and all.
Yes, I think we did have a moment there. Who knows where this might lead!
That’s just it, no historical science can be 100% empirical, because we can’t go back and repeat what we are studying.
“That’s just it, no historical science can be 100% empirical, because we can’t go back and repeat what we are studying.”
Exactly.
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Sure, why not, if you need to go through all of those first, be my guest. Once you have eliminated them all, you will find that two remain standing, creation vs. evolution, and creation science is winning the debate over origins hands-down IMHO.
Yeah, well, don't forget that phrenology, along with alchemy, was the accpeted science of the day.
It's kind of interesting that all the things that evos like to saddle creationists with have very little connection with creationism historically and don't in the present (except in the minds of those who wish to discredit religious belief and have no other weapons which they can use), but rather with the accepted science of the day.
You’re welcome to join us. Do you have any thoughts on the subject?
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