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Lesbian awarded custody of Christian's only child
WND via The Woodward Report ^ | December 5, 2009 | Bob Unruh

Posted on 12/06/2009 3:29:01 PM PST by thisisthetime

A Vermont court ordered a Christian child taken away from her mother and given to a lesbian ex-partner, setting up, according to a lawyer for the Christian family, a dispute that the U.S. Supreme Court likely will have to resolve.

Mathew Staver, founder of Liberty Counsel, told WND the recent order from the Vermont judge that Lisa Miller turn over her young daughter, Isabella, to the lesbian ex-partner, Janet Jenkins, on New Year's Day is being appealed.

In the interim, a separate court hearing on the dispute is scheduled to be heard in a Virginia court during this coming week.

"We're arguing that the state of Virginia cannot enforce an out of state, Vermont, civil union because it's contrary to Virginia law," Staver said.

Ultimately, he said, the issue probably will have to be resolved by the U.S. Supreme Court, because the case is being moved along parallel tracks in both Vermont, where Jenkins lives, and Virginia, where the Millers live.

(Excerpt) Read more at thewoodwardreport.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Vermont; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: childindoctrination; christian; christianpersecution; christianright; christians; homosexualadoption; homosexualagenda; homosexuals; janetjenkins; libertycounsel; lisamiller; ruling; sick; sicksicksick

1 posted on 12/06/2009 3:29:01 PM PST by thisisthetime
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To: thisisthetime

Hey that’s what happens when you enter into those kind of arrangements. You can’t just say “Well I’m a Christian now. I win.”


2 posted on 12/06/2009 3:30:39 PM PST by domenad (In all things, in all ways, at all times, let honor guide me.)
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To: thisisthetime

A judge is just a lawyer with too much power.


3 posted on 12/06/2009 3:30:55 PM PST by BenLurkin
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To: thisisthetime
The case earlier was complicated when Jenkins' Virginia attorney withdrew "after he was indicted for obstructing justice and tampering with evidence regarding a murder that occurred in his home, where his college male friend was sodomized and killed," Liberty Counsel said.

Wow.

4 posted on 12/06/2009 3:36:06 PM PST by LongElegantLegs (Raise the fanged and warlike mistress, stern, impassive, weaponed mistress...)
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To: thisisthetime
There was a similar case in Florida - maybe in the 1990s. A woman who had one or two children was married to a “man” who turned out to be a woman who had undergone some “sex-change” operations. Even though the children wanted to stay with the mother and disliked the “mutilated women,” the court forced them to go with him/her.
5 posted on 12/06/2009 3:39:24 PM PST by Dante3
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To: domenad

This is extremely sad. I read that the (still) lesbian “partner” didn’t even want the child until she was pressured by the gay mafia to file suit.


6 posted on 12/06/2009 3:41:23 PM PST by livius
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To: thisisthetime

Which woman gave birth to the child?


7 posted on 12/06/2009 3:45:56 PM PST by AD from SpringBay (We deserve the government we allow.)
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To: BenLurkin

Oh boy. This case just keeps on getting worse.

Check out this nugget:

“The case earlier was complicated when Jenkins’ Virginia attorney withdrew “after he was indicted for obstructing justice and tampering with evidence regarding a murder that occurred in his home, where his college male friend was sodomized and killed,” Liberty Counsel said.


8 posted on 12/06/2009 3:46:13 PM PST by Pikachu_Dad
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To: domenad

Bull$&@%! This perverted monster never saught custody. She can’t just say “hey I want to steal this Christian’s daughter” and get away with it. She doesn’t care about little Isabella. She wants to indoctrinate her into her political views, that homosexuality is okay. Jenkins believes that a Christian household is a “bad environment” for Isabella! She wouldn’t even go to Isabella’s Christmas plays because she was offended by the Christian atmosphere. It’s so obvious that she is only using the girl to advance the homosexual agenda.


9 posted on 12/06/2009 3:46:30 PM PST by Jeb21 (www.jewsagainstobama.com)
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To: Jeb21

>>It’s so obvious that she is only using the girl to advance the homosexual agenda.<<

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Hell, we have allowed that to happen in this country ever since we allowed gay parades and have emulated and fawned over everything having to do with homosexuality. Now it will bite us in the ass more and more. Evil never sleeps.


11 posted on 12/06/2009 3:57:46 PM PST by 353FMG (Save the Planet -- Eliminate Socialism)
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To: AD from SpringBay

IIRC from prior threads:
Lisa Miller was artificially inseminated by an unnamed/unknown sperm donor and gave birth to the child. Miller is the biological mother of the child. Miller has renounced her lesbianism and returned to her Christian roots.

Jenkins is Miller’s former lesbian partner - who is now living with another lesbian partner and has been awarded full custody of the child - who is not hers by any stretch of the perverted imagination that passes for justice or the child’s interests.


12 posted on 12/06/2009 4:06:51 PM PST by sodpoodle (Stop wasting our wealth and start telling the truth.)
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To: sodpoodle

Will Ken Cuccinelli, our new Attorney General, have a role in the outcome?


13 posted on 12/06/2009 4:08:57 PM PST by HokieMom (Pacepa : Can the U.S. afford a president who can't recognize anti-Americanism?)
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To: sodpoodle
Jenkins is Miller’s former lesbian partner - who is now living with another lesbian partner and has been awarded full custody of the child - who is not hers by any stretch of the perverted imagination that passes for justice or the child’s interests.

I think we all agree that choosing the homosexual lifestyle should make one ineligible to have ANY contact at all with children. This is yet another case where sicko judges have chosen to put man's law ahead of God's law -- and the result is predictable.
14 posted on 12/06/2009 4:11:08 PM PST by USALiberty
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To: domenad
You can’t just say “Well I’m a Christian now. I win.”

Then how about, "Well, I'm the child's REAL, BIOLOGICAL mother now, not the lesbian who never even adopted the child. I win."

Does that argument fly in your world?

15 posted on 12/06/2009 4:12:46 PM PST by fwdude (It is not the liberals who will destroy this country, but the "moderates.")
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To: HokieMom

***Will Ken Cuccinelli, our new Attorney General, have a role in the outcome?***

Virginia’s AG.

I’m not an attorney - we need help on this from our FR legal eagles.

Anyone??????????


16 posted on 12/06/2009 4:13:00 PM PST by sodpoodle (Stop wasting our wealth and start telling the truth.)
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To: USALiberty

****choosing the homosexual lifestyle should make one ineligible to have ANY contact at all with children***

Sadly, there are women selling their bio eggs, renting their wombs as incubators for IVF on behalf of gay men.

Lesbian women have eggs & wombs - all they require to bear children are sperm donors.

Harvesting the miracles of modern technology.


17 posted on 12/06/2009 4:17:59 PM PST by sodpoodle (Stop wasting our wealth and start telling the truth.)
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To: 353FMG
Well I have Never-Ever approved of gay parades, "fawned" over a homosexual person and the GLSEN indoctrination of American children in public schools.

And I'm in one of the most "gayest" counties in the U.S.A, name of Broward COunty, FLorida.

I am extremely-wroth [angry] at what's been forced on this very young and innocent girl!

18 posted on 12/06/2009 4:18:30 PM PST by ExcursionGuy84 ("Jesus, Your Love takes my breath away.")
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To: thisisthetime

Aren’t both of these women lesbians that have since split up?


19 posted on 12/06/2009 4:18:31 PM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: sodpoodle

ugh!!! Just because it is medically possible does not make it right.
So wrong, actually!


20 posted on 12/06/2009 4:21:55 PM PST by ronniesgal (Merry Christmas early,)
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To: HokieMom

“Will Ken Cuccinelli, our new Attorney General, have a role in the outcome”?

...if so, that would be a good thing! I live in richmond and worked for the McDonnell ticket and am so psyched about our new Gov/Lt/Atty Gen!!


21 posted on 12/06/2009 4:29:51 PM PST by albie
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To: thisisthetime

This is obscene. I cannot understand any court’s ruling that would take away a mother’s biological child and award custody to an ex-lover who has had no contact with that child in years. The court would not do such a thing if the ex-lover were not homosexual. This is a judge with an agenda, plain and simple. No court would award custody of a mother’s biological child to her ex-boyfriend who was her common-law husband under another state’s laws. It simply wouldn’t happen.


22 posted on 12/06/2009 4:33:01 PM PST by BuckeyeTexan (Integrity, Honesty, Character, & Loyalty still matter)
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To: thisisthetime

Yup. “We” asked for it.

I’d love to hear B.O.s thought on this.


23 posted on 12/06/2009 4:38:14 PM PST by T Minus Four (Global warming is not science, it's politics!)
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To: domenad

WTF over?

How do you justify taking a child away from its mother?

The “partner” never adopted the child. She has as much right to take the child as you do - no right at all.


24 posted on 12/06/2009 4:38:20 PM PST by zek157
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To: nmh

No. Lisa Miller, who gave birth to Isabella, has renounced lesbianism. The real problem here is the tug of war between the states. Both sides are looking to this case for potentially major precedent law. Vermont has awarded custody, but Virginia doesn’t recognize the civil union upon which the Vermont court is basing its decision. So if Vermont can ultimately compel Virginia to enforce the custody order, Virginia shall have lost the benefits of its Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA). For more reading, see:

http://protectisabella.com/faqs.php


25 posted on 12/06/2009 4:40:00 PM PST by Springfield Reformer
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To: domenad

Exactly. There are consequences for your actions.


26 posted on 12/06/2009 4:40:19 PM PST by Halls (Jesus is my Lord and Savior)
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To: fwdude

Simply amazing. I cannot even comprehend taking a child from its biological mother and giving it to another person. Slippery legal slope.


27 posted on 12/06/2009 4:42:14 PM PST by zek157
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To: Springfield Reformer

“No. Lisa Miller, who gave birth to Isabella, has renounced lesbianism. The real problem here is the tug of war between the states. Both sides are looking to this case for potentially major precedent law. Vermont has awarded custody, but Virginia doesn’t recognize the civil union upon which the Vermont court is basing its decision. So if Vermont can ultimately compel Virginia to enforce the custody order, Virginia shall have lost the benefits of its Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA). For more reading, see:”

Frankly the little girl should go to the FATHER.

It’s clear mom has ISSUES.


28 posted on 12/06/2009 4:43:33 PM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: thisisthetime
"Lesbian Awarded Custody of Christian's Only Child"

Did anyone else think this was a weird headline? What, it would have been less shocking if the Mom had had a "spare" child or two?

29 posted on 12/06/2009 4:45:25 PM PST by T Minus Four (Global warming is not science, it's politics!)
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To: albie
if so, that would be a good thing!

Yes, Cuccinelli will be on the right side if he's involved.

30 posted on 12/06/2009 4:46:50 PM PST by HokieMom (Pacepa : Can the U.S. afford a president who can't recognize anti-Americanism?)
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To: Halls

The consequences shouldn’t be at the expense of the child though. This wouldn’t have happened to a heterosexual divorced couple where the former husband never adopted the child.


31 posted on 12/06/2009 4:53:22 PM PST by BuckeyeTexan (Integrity, Honesty, Character, & Loyalty still matter)
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To: nmh

Do you really think so? The father is just an anonymous sperm donor. I almost hate to raise the question, but what kind of man does that? I feel for those who cannot bear children of their own, but I think we have introduced an intolerable level of ethical complexity via “sperm loans.” Children, by the design of nature and nature’s God, need to be raised by two fit, sexually complimentary parents. If Lisa Miller has been restored to her natural heterosexuality, and no other disqualifying factors are present, there is no reason to regard her as an unfit parent. Whereas, a “father” in sperm only (FISO?), who not only has had no involvement in the child’s life whatsoever, but who is absolutely careless in the manner by which he sows his oats, has significant fitness issues. No, IMHO, Lisa, imperfect as she is, imperfect as the situation is, remains the best choice, not only because she is the biological mother, but because she is the only parent who has shown the love of a parent to this child. To Jenkins, she’s just a pawn; to the anonymous father, she’s just a spawn; to Lisa, she is the fruit of her womb and the love of her life. They should not be separated by ignoble politics.


32 posted on 12/06/2009 5:08:27 PM PST by Springfield Reformer
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To: BuckeyeTexan

I agree. There is an injustice. No doubt. But the family court system is so flawed and broken. I know this from personal experience. Unfortunately life isn’t fair and God says it’s not going to be because Adam and Eve chose sin. So this mom should continue to fight and I hope she wins. But had she had not chosen her sinful actions her child wouldn’t be having to be put in a situation that is bad for the child.

God is good and I hope this mother and child will cling to Him no matter what happens.


33 posted on 12/06/2009 5:11:08 PM PST by Halls (Jesus is my Lord and Savior)
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To: T Minus Four
I’d love to hear B.O.s thought on this.

He probably doesn't make enough to weigh in on this decision either.

34 posted on 12/06/2009 5:37:34 PM PST by ninergold3 ("Has it ever occurred to you that nothing occurs to God?" -Mark Lowry)
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To: thisisthetime

The Kids Innocence Coalition reported that the Vermont woman had no interest in the child. That a gay group paid her to fight this, so they could judge shop and establish some kind of judicial precedent (since gays consistently lose at the polls). Sickening.


35 posted on 12/06/2009 5:50:04 PM PST by montag813
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To: thisisthetime

The judge who ordered full custody to the ex-girlfriend is pathological and needs prayer.


36 posted on 12/06/2009 5:52:41 PM PST by Judges Gone Wild (Who is this uncircumcised, to oppose the armies of The Living God?)
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To: ronniesgal
-ugh!!! Just because it is medically possible does not make it right.- True!Sometimes a doctor has to say "NO"! Photobucket
37 posted on 12/06/2009 6:01:35 PM PST by massmike (...So this is what happens when OJ's jury elects the president....)
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To: massmike

dude!! Nightmares, dude!


38 posted on 12/06/2009 6:18:23 PM PST by ronniesgal (Merry Christmas early,)
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To: T Minus Four
I’d love to hear B.O.s thought on this

Whatever advances the destruction of The United States.

39 posted on 12/06/2009 6:20:44 PM PST by onedoug
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To: AD from SpringBay
Which woman gave birth to the child?

Miller. Jenkins isn't even an adoptive "parent".

40 posted on 12/06/2009 6:31:14 PM PST by nina0113
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To: Springfield Reformer
I didn't know an anonymous sperm donor was the father! This is another reason to NEVER have annoymous sperm donors. It's crazy. Men should have more pride about thir offspring. Money isn't everything.

Then put the little girl up for adoption.

This little girl doesn't need MORE confusion about gender roles. There are plenty of NORMAL heterosexual parents dying to have a little white girl.

41 posted on 12/06/2009 6:42:34 PM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: nmh

Did you actually read the article?


42 posted on 12/06/2009 7:10:07 PM PST by christianhomeschoolmommaof3 (Best thing about Cash for Clunkers is that 90% of the Obama bumper stickers are now off the road.)
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To: massmike

OH MY HECK! Is that real?!


43 posted on 12/06/2009 9:01:22 PM PST by T Minus Four (Global warming is not science, it's politics!)
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