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Obama’s Birth or America’s Rebirth?
Liberty Defense League ^ | November 29, 2009 | Timothy N. Baldwin, JD

Posted on 12/03/2009 7:25:00 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Let us assume for the moment that it became revealed that Barak Obama was not a natural born citizen of the United States, proving that he was ineligible to be President of the United States. Ok, now what? Would Obama be removed from office? Perhaps. Then what? Joseph Biden would be our next President. Ok, then what? Would the United States be freer? Would the States and the people regain their sovereignty stolen by the federal government? Would America’s form of government revert back to its original nature and character of 1787? Would self-government, the consent of the governed, limited government and federalism once again become the guiding principles throughout these states united? Would the ideals and principles of freedom once again become popular, accepted and advanced by the people and their agents in government?

Since the Confederate States of America lost the war in 1865 against the union-destroying aggressions of Abraham Lincoln and his military, the federal government has egregiously encroached upon the powers and sovereignty of the people and the states respectively. Regulations, controls, taxation, deception, falsehoods, subterfuge, “bait and switch” have all been the norm. Thievery under “color of law” has been their modus operandi. Through myriad usurpations, all three branches of the federal government have suppressed and oppressed true freedom throughout these states. It has, through masquerade and fraud, turned our original federal form of government into a national, seemingly-all-powerful empire. It has overtaken virtually every major element of society. It has bribed (and in some cases, forced) corporations, churches, states and citizens into giving the federal government our own powers and resources, with the promise of giving them back, of course, at our expense and with their demands. The federal government has unjustifiably entangled itself in the affairs of foreign nations, corporate elites and bankster mobs. It owns major media, education institutions and religious minds across America. In essence, it has created a seemingly impenetrable matrix of fraud, deceit and corruption, Republic or Democrat in the White House notwithstanding.

Despite the well-intentioned efforts and thoughts of many in America who feel that removing Obama from the Presidency, based upon constitutional grounds (i.e. Article 2, Section 1, Clause 4), will somehow restore freedom to America, this simply is not the case and entirely misses the true crux of the problem. Do not misunderstand what I am saying: most certainly the constitution should be followed, and we the people of the states and the state governments should insist on it. No one believes that more than I. However, this fact must be realized before freedom will ever show its face again in America: the federal government (and those who control it) is not salvageable; its usurpations and encroachments are treasonous; its blatant unconstitutional actions have put the people of these states in a state of war; and without true revolution, freedom will never be restored in America.

The federal government–and by current default, the states–operates under a system and form contrary to freedom as expressed in America’s Declaration of Independence. It operates under the form of government which history proves is the enemy of a free republic. It operates under the very form of government that our founders rejected in September 1787 and that the ratifiers of the constitution rejected thereafter. It operates under a top-down structure, whereby the states and the people are mere subjects and corporations of the centralized head–the very form our founding generation seceded from in 1776. Freedom’s current plight in America has little to do with Obama being illegitimate as the President and has everything to do with the people of the states being controlled by a governmental system we never created or approved.

Even a brief look at recent history will reveal the numerous examples where the people have attempted to hold the federal government accountable to the constitution. Yet, that same government is more powerful and corrupt than ever, and the people and states are weaker and more oppressed than ever. It would not matter in the slightest if Obama were removed and replaced with Biden, Pelosi, McCain, Bush, Clinton, Gingrich, Palin, Scarborough, or any other eligible President. A new President would no more change the form and system of the federal government than would pumping trillions of dollars of tax payer monies create a stable and sound economic system in America. Just as America’s paper currency (the dollar) is not backed by a solid foundation (e.g. gold-silver standard), so too the executive branch of the federal government is not backed by substantive principles of freedom.

Make no mistake about this: there has not been a United States President elected since 1861 that has advocated for the true principles of federalism and freedom, and both major political parties have only cemented and built upon the previous President’s legacy of federal power at the expense of the states and people. If you think that freedom will be restored because a Republican who claims to be pro-life, pro-family, or pro-business sits in the White House, you are mistaken. If you think that Obama’s true birth place being revealed will restore all that we have lost for over 100 years and will somehow decapitate the head of the beast (thereby granting victory to “conservative America”), think again.

Those who have controlled the federal system have shown their intent of ignoring, demeaning and contradicting the United States Constitution. They care nothing of it, and only lead us to believe they do just to get elected. As Nancy Pelosi laughed when recently being asked the question, “Does the constitution grant Congress the power to pass the national health care bill?”, she only illustrated both the latent and patent practice and philosophy the federal government has possessed for generations. Do we need any more evidence at this point to conclude that our federal government is unconstitutional in its actions, powers and intentions? I think not. The only question is, what do we do about it?

In 1776, the delegates from the colonies met in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania in attempts to rectify the unconstitutional political actions of their national government. Like many of us today, they knew the designs of their government to reduce them to submissive slaves; they knew their government overstepped the authority given them by the consent of the governed; they knew that their government had committed acts of “repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States.” So, what did they decide to do? Replace their king with a new king? Use the court system to invalidate the illegal actions of the king? Use parliament to address their grievances to the king? Try to establish that the king was not of the hereditary lineage legally capable of being king? Wait until a new king would assume the throne to accomplish freedom? None of the above.

Instead, our founding generation secured the blessings of liberty by doing what all free peoples decided to do throughout history when confronted with the evident intents of tyrannical government: they became independent from the source of tyranny. They declared their natural right to govern themselves. They formed and constituted government by and on the consent of the governed. They ridded themselves of the entire system of the “long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object [which evinced] a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism.” They became independent and sovereign states!

You claim to love freedom: you do well. But freedom will never be restored by replacing Obama with Biden, nor will it be restored by establishing that Obama is not legally eligible to hold the executive office. You claim to love the constitution: you do well. But the constitution will never be restored until the principles, form and system it created are restored. You claim that Obama’s birth certificate is crucial in restoring freedom? Your thoughts are likely pure, but your focus is misplaced. There have been open and notorious unconstitutional actions forced upon us by the federal government over the past 140 years. What makes this particular issue the winning contestant in restoring freedom?

Moreover, where are those in the federal government also demanding what you claim is so crucial to restoring the constitution? Where are those in the federal government demanding that the federal government give the states and the people back their money and power? Where are those in the federal government demanding that the tenth amendment be adhered to? Where are those even considering running for a federal position who preach and practice concepts of federalism? Where is the federal judicial system that even understands what federalism is and is willing to contradict ninety years of court opinions and rulings that have virtually stripped states of their retained rights under the tenth amendment? Where are the federal political statesmen who proclaim that the federal government be resisted by the voice and the arm of the states, as Alexander Hamilton explained? The answer is, no where!

The questions that should be asked are the ones whose answers provide real solutions to restoring our Confederate Republic. The solutions sought should not be ones whose only end simply replaces one quarterback for another; yet all the while, their team continues to control us by insisting that we play their game by their rules in their (home) stadium with their referees, all of which are controlled by those sitting in the glass boxes overhead who smoke their cigars, drink their wine, play with their whores and laugh at us as we drudge through the game thinking that we are gaining ground when we lose only ten yards instead of twenty. As Thomas Jefferson wrote, “such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government.”

Our methods of change are proven ineffectual, the expressed terms of the constitution notwithstanding. It is time for a different course of action–a course that has already been given to us by principle and practice. It is time that we the people of the states think in the pure political and philosophical terms that formed our country and secured our freedom in 1776. It is time that the states of this country reclaim what has been taken from us and to reignite the flames of independence and federalism which will cause freedom to burn brightly for us and our posterity for years to come.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; civilwar2; cw2; obama; obamanoncitizenissue; obroma; statesrights; stuffwarsmadeof; teaparties
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1 posted on 12/03/2009 7:25:03 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Public hangings. I’d bring a bag lunch.


2 posted on 12/03/2009 7:26:53 PM PST by Larousse2 ("Educate and inform the whole mass of the people... They are the only sure reliance for the preserva)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
If the initial premise turned out to be true the first paragraph misses something. If Obama were removed from office due to disqualification then what will America's response be to the democrat party that willfully foisted an illegible president on the US? It's possible that the democrat party would never recover from the revelation of their unprecedented (to use Obama’s favorite word) betrayal of the American trust.
3 posted on 12/03/2009 7:32:54 PM PST by highlander_UW (To anger a conservative tell him a lie. To anger a liberal tell him the truth.)
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To: Larousse2

That’s all? You might as well bring supper and a snack cause it would be one long day


4 posted on 12/03/2009 7:35:25 PM PST by Ainast
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Obama is in the process of his own self destruction. His downfall is out of our hands. I like the bag lunch idea.


5 posted on 12/03/2009 7:35:54 PM PST by Misterioso (The uncontested absurdities of today are the accepted slogans of tomorrow. -- Ayn Rand)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
There have been open and notorious unconstitutional actions forced upon us by the federal government over the past 140 years. What makes this particular issue the winning contestant in restoring freedom?

First of all, claiming that there were previous constitutional transgressions is absolutely no excuse to allow a known current transgression, and is no justification to let this slide.

Secondly, restoring "freedom" as the author states, or "constitutional authority", as this poster defines it, must begin somewhere. It doesnt start by counting off historical transgressions which are water under the bridge, it starts by restoring the RULE OF LAW, NOW. And this is the perfect place to begin: at the top of the food chain.
6 posted on 12/03/2009 7:36:53 PM PST by Canedawg (Bring lawyers, guns and money.)
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Moreover, where are those in the federal government also demanding what you claim is so crucial to restoring the constitution?

This guy doesn't understand the people are the government! More are taking steps in various ways to restore the Constitution. One is through asserting the power of the citizen grand jury granted only to the people per the 5th amendment and using that power to serve Presentments against BO and Nancy Pelosi. Learn more by clicking on the link in the previous sentence.
7 posted on 12/03/2009 7:37:31 PM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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To: highlander_UW
Things will not be sorted out peacefully, IMHO. It was only months ago that some libtards were advocating camps to be built for global warming deniers. Now there is good evidence of the fraud that we all here were aware of. Fact is, we cannot trust them. The sad fact is that after what these people have done so far and what they have made clear they would like to do, we can no longer look at them and say they are our fellow Americans who just happen to have different opinions. They have seriously proposed doing things to our country that preclude us from considering them our fellow citizens. Fact is, it isn't clear that they haven't already succeeding in destroying us.

Like a marriage in which there has been a really vicious fight and perhaps not just feelings were hurt and painful things revealed, but even real physical violence. After these things the marriage just can't be "fixed" I suspect. How are we to trust the folks who have done these things to us?

8 posted on 12/03/2009 7:42:11 PM PST by wastoute
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Would America’s form of government revert back to its original nature and character of 1787? Would self-government, the consent of the governed, limited government and federalism once again become the guiding principles throughout these states united? Would the ideals and principles of freedom once again become popular, accepted and advanced by the people and their agents in government?

Perhaps not, but it would be a step in the right direction. In the direction of enforcement of Constitution.

Couldn't hurt.

9 posted on 12/03/2009 7:45:24 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Since the Confederate States of America lost the war in 1865 against the union-destroying aggressions of Abraham Lincoln and his military....

There's just something missing here. What could it be?

10 posted on 12/03/2009 7:47:29 PM PST by kittykat77
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To: Larousse2

A hemp initiative!


11 posted on 12/03/2009 7:48:45 PM PST by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

12 posted on 12/03/2009 7:53:27 PM PST by Road Warrior ‘04 ( I'll miss President Bush greatly! Palin in 2012! The "other" Jim Thompson)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I don't follow the author. At what point or for what transgression against the Constitution will we, the people, our courts, our government require the Constitution be followed?

I don't see requiring that obama provide his records as a political strategy and thus don't see it as a way to remove him from office. I simply want the President to provide documentation the same as anyone else who runs for the Presidency should.

The birther idea to me is not about where obama was born, but that he provide the same documented history as any of us would have to provide.

He's no better than us and should be subjected to the same rules as everyone else. If you say otherwise, what are you afraid of?

13 posted on 12/03/2009 7:57:19 PM PST by GBA
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To: Ainast

True. Take out would be fine also.


14 posted on 12/03/2009 8:07:31 PM PST by Larousse2 ("Educate and inform the whole mass of the people... They are the only sure reliance for the preserva)
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To: sheik yerbouty

And GREEN too! Renewable; sustainable...sweet!


15 posted on 12/03/2009 8:10:05 PM PST by Larousse2 ("Educate and inform the whole mass of the people... They are the only sure reliance for the preserva)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Interesting article, historically. But I wonder....

If Obama is judged ineligible, then the entire Democrat ticket was ineligible and McCain won or the election of 2008 was invalid. That's a scenario the courts will never rule on, they'll just bide their time hoping the whole thing fades away.

Discovery of his inelegibility would lead to charges of criminal fraud on a national scale perpetrated by one of the two major political parties and while the Democrat's House of Cards would fall apart so would the country. We'd have Civil War II.
16 posted on 12/03/2009 8:14:15 PM PST by BIGLOOK (Keelhaul Congress!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

There was a time not so long ago when the US bragged to the rest of the world that we were a nation of laws as opposed to the personality cults that ruled in the leftist world.

Presidents and other politicans could come and go but in the US the law was the absolute and Americans labored hard to enforce the constitutional guarantees that our laws applied equally and impartially to all.

Now we have abandoned the rule of law and are caught up in an insane personality cult promoted by unthinking throngs no different than the blind followers of Mao, Marx, Lenin, Pol Pot, Castro and Hugo Chavez.


17 posted on 12/03/2009 8:23:47 PM PST by Iron Munro (Obami I-Won Kenya-obian says: "This is not your Father's America")
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To: Canedawg; 2ndDivisionVet

What the Canedawg said and thanks for saving me the writing.

What next, we allow Obama or another president to assume a chaired role of the U.N.?


18 posted on 12/03/2009 8:43:07 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: highlander_UW

Word! and damned right!


19 posted on 12/03/2009 8:43:44 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So...would removing 0bama return us to the America envisioned and established by the founders? Nope.

But, it WOULD be a damn good start in that direction.


20 posted on 12/03/2009 8:50:15 PM PST by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2013: Change we can look forward to.)
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