Posted on 12/03/2009 8:35:52 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
Evolutionists retreating from the arena of science
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Today, the Darwinian scientific consensus persists within almost every large university and governmental institution. But around the middle of the 20th century an interesting new trend emerged and has since become increasingly established. Evolutionary theorists have been forced, step by step, to steadily retreat from the evidence in the field. Some of the evidences mentioned earlier in this article were demonstrated to be frauds and hoaxes. Other discoveries have been a blow to the straightforward expectations and predictions of evolutionists. Increasingly, they have been forced to tack ad hoc mechanisms onto Darwin’s theory to accomodate the evidence. Their retreat to unfalsifiable positions is now evident in every arena where they once triumphed. Let us examine how Darwinian theorists have moved from concrete predictions and scientifically observable supporting evidences to metaphysical positions in several key fields of research...
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I really don't have a dog in this fight but your argument is a strawman. Proponents of the particular views on the Genesis account (24-hour-days vs. epochs) would insist that they are reading Scripture naturally (as it was intended to be read) as opposed to literally. The dispute comes down to what Moses meant by "days" in the Genesis account. Both sides would recognize that the seven-headed beast with 10 horns is figurative language.
You took the words right out of my mouth, E-S. Everytime the evos try to present evdidence, the Creationists and IDers easily knock it down and demonstrate why design is the far superior interpretation. That is one of the main reasons why the evos are retreating from science, as the title of this post suggests.
As a side note, I want to make the following observation. There are many scientists who do not subscribe to the Leftist set of beliefs. Some of these beliefs are actually anti-scientific (e.g. anthropogenic global warming). Being bundled (as conservatives) with 'creation science' charlatans deprives us of some credibility, necessary to debunk the Left's myths. This makes fighting the uphill battle against the liberal media even more difficult.
Regarding the keywords - one of your allies added keywords such as ‘darwinliedpeopledied’ first - so I can’t blame evos for returning keyword fire here.
No.. GGG has stated unequivocally that genesis requires and absolute 24 hour day literal interpretation.
One can’t have it both ways.
Please let us know when that happens outside your little world of delusion... As of yet, it never has.
How’s that whole ‘geocentric universe’ thing working out for you?
How about the mods telling both sides to refrain from demeaning keywords. That should solve the problem. How does that sound?
IOW, the same approach as those climate scientists. That's [why] everyone is so outraged about Climate-gate!!!
If you got a problem with Evolution, blame God for proving us with so much evidence that backs it up.
I really dislike getting enmeshed in these rancorous threads, but the venomous conclusion, supra, is as convincing if it had been written as:
Evolutionism means going in, looking for a pre-determined outcome ("intelligent design is a fraud") and cherry-picking evidence to support it, while rejecting out-of-hand anything which might deny that pre-determined result.
IOW, the same approach as those climate scientists. That's [why] everyone is so outraged about Climate-gate!!!
If you got a problem with Intelligent Design, blame God for proving us with so much evidence that backs it up.
“You must be joking. Evolutionary biology is a key for understanding a host of phenomena, with quite substantial practical significance. E.g. drug resistance.”
How does speciation explain ‘drug resistance’?
From the same guy who wrote this,
Today, due to the modern evolutionary belief that no dinosaurs survived beyond the so-called Cretaceous (an alleged 65 million years ago), most people disregard all of this evidence as mere myths and legends, while ignoring the clear teaching of the Bible.
Man, are you so very wrong.
Evolution is just as big a scientific scam as AGW. The only difference is that its believers never found a way to tie it to political policies that aim to destroy civilization and, oh by the way, massively redistribute wealth.
==Evolutionary biology is a key for understanding a host of phenomena, with quite substantial practical significance. E.g. drug resistance.
OK, I’ll bite. Please explain why neo-Darwinian evolution is the best explanation for drug resistance.
Only to someone who has no reading comprehension, like you.
Wow.
I think I agree with almost everything you stated in your post.
But again I remind you that almost all biologists are still Christians in this country.
“That is one of the main reasons why the evos are retreating from science....”
And it makes them act like juveniles. Much like the hit-and-run posters on these threads.....no evidence to support any theories, just ad hominem attacks...remarkable.
Can’t or won’t answer the question?
Nephilim got your tongue?
Thank you for trying, but it’s falling on deaf ears.
One of the biggest lies going purported by the evolutionists is that since creationists believe that the Genesis account is real and true, that creationists then go on to demand that the whole Bible be read *literally* without regard to style or content or context.
Evolutionists then go on to claim that creationists look bad for taking a stand on Biblical literalness that nobody believes.
The only reason creationists *look bad* is because they are being lied about by the evolutionists who wish to discredit Christians in general and creationists in particular.
Nobody would think that anyone demands an completely literal reading of the entire Bible if it weren’t for this evolutionist mythology that they keep spreading.
It’s very revealing that they have to go to such great lengths and lies to discredit creation. You’d think that if evolution were such a slam dunk, that it would stand on its own and creation would go the way of alchemy.
More specifically, natural selection. Populations of microorganisms are not uniform. There is always some spectrum of properties. For example, certain virions of HIV may have a mutated protease. A lucky mutation (lucky for from the point of view of the virus, of course) makes a drug molecule incompatible with the receptor. Other viruses do not proliferate, but the lucky one does and starts a new population, passing on the favorable mutation. The effect of this mutation may be then amplified by subsequent mutations/natural selection.
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