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1 posted on 12/01/2009 10:40:29 AM PST by Steelfish
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I see Quagmire in the future..... and not the one from Family Guy....


2 posted on 12/01/2009 10:41:43 AM PST by b4its2late (Before you can control a horse, you have to break it. Sound familiar?)
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To: Steelfish; Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; ...

The list, ping


3 posted on 12/01/2009 10:43:37 AM PST by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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“U.S. troops are expected to start leaving the region ‘well before’ the end of Obama’s first term, the AP reported Tuesday.”

Looks like the MSM is conceding that it’s all about politics and the ‘bama not wanting to be a one termer. Very revealing.


5 posted on 12/01/2009 10:45:17 AM PST by Spok
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I get the feeling that every decision Obama makes is based on whether it will help him get relected or not. Maybe that is normal for a 1st term president but either way, I don't feel comfortable with anything he's doing just for that reason.
6 posted on 12/01/2009 10:45:45 AM PST by happilymarriedmom
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U.S. troops are expected to start leaving the region ‘well before’ the end of Obama’s first term

sounds like

President Clinton said U.S. troops would be out of Yugoslavia by Christmas 1999

7 posted on 12/01/2009 10:45:50 AM PST by McGruff (We're Going Rogue Baby!)
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A senior government official told NBC contributor Col. Jack Jacobs that the president believes that a transition from American-led combat to Afghan leadership of the effort will begin in July 2011.

Obama's about to find out that the fortunes of war do not neatly comply with political timelines.

10 posted on 12/01/2009 10:49:45 AM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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ping


11 posted on 12/01/2009 10:50:36 AM PST by Perdogg (Sarah Palin-Jim DeMint 2012 - Liz Cheney for Sec of State - Duncan Hunter SecDef)
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Great. Tell your enemy when you’re leaving, so he can just lie low and wait it out.

Now THAT’s some military strategy for you!

/sarc


14 posted on 12/01/2009 10:56:16 AM PST by Deo volente (Sarah Palin was right. There ARE death panels in the bill.)
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There goes Afghanistan


16 posted on 12/01/2009 10:57:26 AM PST by G8 Diplomat
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This is a political decision based almost entirely on political calculations. There is very little military calculation in it at all.


17 posted on 12/01/2009 10:57:54 AM PST by savedbygrace (You are only leading if someone follows. Otherwise, you just wandered off... [Smokin' Joe])
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Obama has given me ulcers.

I’m sick of the SOB.


18 posted on 12/01/2009 10:58:07 AM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...Call 'em What you Will, They ALL have Fairies Living In Their Trees.)
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These people will take a principled stand when they know they are not alone. “They are as scared of us leaving as we are,” said an American officer. Afghan officials fear talk of exit strategy
19 hours ago

KABUL -Afghan officials hope President Barack Obama’s address on Afghanistan won’t be weighted too heavily on an exit strategy even though that’s the message many Americans and Democrats in Congress...
Afghan officials worry that political pressure in the United States might encourage Obama to pull out before the Taliban have been seriously weakened.
Much of the relative success of the Iraq surge was that it changed perceptions — convincing both insurgents and government leaders alike that the U.S. would stay as long as it took to achieve its goals. That emboldened many Iraqi Sunnis to break with al-Qaida — a move that was a turning point in the war.
http://news.aol.com/article/afghan-officials-fear-talk-of-exit/791156


21 posted on 12/01/2009 11:04:13 AM PST by anglian
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He wants to repeat this scene in Kabul:


23 posted on 12/01/2009 11:15:13 AM PST by cll (I am the warrant and the sanction)
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Administration Outlines Afghan War Surrender Endgame

Fixed...

28 posted on 12/01/2009 11:21:19 AM PST by Wyatt's Torch (I can explain it to you. I can't understand it for you.)
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If this is Obama's plan, we should pull out now.

He is not committed to winning the mission...so no further US lives should be lost.

29 posted on 12/01/2009 11:25:45 AM PST by Mariner
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NYT Headline: More Troops To Afghanistan — Bush’s Fault


30 posted on 12/01/2009 11:26:49 AM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government -- Thomas Payne)
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So if the Presidential election were in 2014 instead of 2012, we’d stay in Afghanistan until 2013, and Obamacare wouldn’t take effect until 2015. The Dems are a bunch of self-interested POS’s.


31 posted on 12/01/2009 11:31:48 AM PST by historyrepeatz
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Stunning? Not in the least. Breaking? Been out there for a couple days. Is there anything new buried on page 2?


32 posted on 12/01/2009 11:32:41 AM PST by don-o (My son, Ben - Marine Lance Corporal is in Iraq.)
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Head fake, then cut and run. What a grand war plan.


33 posted on 12/01/2009 11:35:04 AM PST by LibWhacker (America awake!)
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I'm going to wait to see what his majesty says this evening before I jump to any conclusions, but there's sure a lot of 'compromise' and 'exit strategy' smoke coming from Obama's campfire; one that should be signaling a commitment to victory.

...metaphorically speaking.

34 posted on 12/01/2009 11:35:43 AM PST by americanophile ("For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Savior, who is Christ the Lord.")
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