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Another spying scandal at Gitmo
NY Post ^ | December 1, 2009 | PAUL SPERRY

Posted on 12/01/2009 2:59:52 AM PST by Scanian

A number of Arabic and Pashtu interpreters at the terror-war detention center at Guantanamo Bay are under active investigation for omitting valuable intelligence from their translations of detainee interrogations, among other security breaches. This could taint some of the evidence at the "9/11 trial" in New York and proceedings against other detainees.

Remarkably, the Pentagon never cleaned up the "mole infestation" at its highest-security facility after the FBI busted a Muslim spy ring at Gitmo in 2003.

The 2003 probe involved at least two Arabic interpreters with high-level security clearance. Senior Airman Ahmad al-Halabi, a Syrian native, and former Army linguist Ahmed Mehalba, an Egyptian native, were later convicted of stealing or mishandling classified documents.

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
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1 posted on 12/01/2009 2:59:53 AM PST by Scanian
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To: Scanian
One of two things is happening here. Either these individuals are not being vetted properly or there is such a shortage of Arabic and Pashtu speakers coming out of our universities that we are relying on questionable sources for interpretation. Suspect its probably both. One of the ways to remedy this is to ramp up the number of scholarships to universities with the promise of good employment after graduation. Another check would be to polygraph all interpreters for the accuracy of the information they are providing. After 9/11 I suspected that this would be a problem but its something I thought we could get guidance on from the Israeli's who have a lot more experience at this.
2 posted on 12/01/2009 3:13:42 AM PST by RU88 (Bow to no man)
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To: Scanian

Real good! But, let’s not jump to conclusions.

3 posted on 12/01/2009 3:13:49 AM PST by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: RU88

The Israelis have many skilled and trustworthy interpreters of Arabic languages, naturally, but it is US policy not to use them.

4 posted on 12/01/2009 3:21:02 AM PST by livius
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5 posted on 12/01/2009 3:44:49 AM PST by bcsco (Hey, GOP: The American Indians found out what happens when you don't control immigration...)
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To: RU88

Their loyalty is NOT to the USA! It’s to the murdering ideology that is cleverly disguised as a religion.

Since they are taught from birth that it’s OK to lie to us infidels, they actually believe they are telling the truth, and a polygraph test will not detect their lies.

6 posted on 12/01/2009 4:20:43 AM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: Scanian

This is SUCH a classic blunder the USA is making. It’s worse than taking in any communist “defector” in the cold war, and putting them in the CIA. Many of them turned out to be planted moles.

In ten years, we’ll have senior leadership infiltrated by these muslim jihad symps.

7 posted on 12/01/2009 5:04:25 AM PST by Travis McGee (
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8 posted on 12/01/2009 5:07:10 AM PST by hennie pennie
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To: Scanian

After Fort Hood, this is reassuring./s/

9 posted on 12/01/2009 5:09:37 AM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: Travis McGee

Some would argue that we have one in the Oval Office right now. A muzzie sympathizer, at the very least.

10 posted on 12/01/2009 5:12:48 AM PST by Scanian
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To: Scanian

Bigtime. At the very least, he’s not loyal to the USA, but some global socialist utopian vision.

And we know how they turn out.

11 posted on 12/01/2009 5:15:21 AM PST by Travis McGee (
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To: Scanian

Why couldn’t we train our own people to learn the Muzzie language? We’ve been at this for 8 years now.

12 posted on 12/01/2009 5:35:19 AM PST by Rappini ("Pro deo et Patria.)
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To: Scanian

I wonder if General Casey is going to ‘close the loop’ on this thing? Probably not. Diversity is the goal.

13 posted on 12/01/2009 5:38:32 AM PST by Tallguy ("The sh- t's chess, it ain't checkers!" -- Alonzo (Denzel Washington) in "Training Day")
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There ya go!

What are a few traitors if they can help advance diversity?!

14 posted on 12/01/2009 5:42:54 AM PST by Scanian
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To: Rappini
Why couldn’t we train our own people to learn the Muzzie language? We’ve been at this for 8 years now.

The quick answer is that we do, particularly in the Special Forces. I don't know how fluent they are, but their language skills are in such demand that their deployment schedules are insane. They may have pealed a few of those soldiers/sailors/airmen off their duties to act as interogators. Who knows?

15 posted on 12/01/2009 5:53:47 AM PST by Tallguy ("The sh- t's chess, it ain't checkers!" -- Alonzo (Denzel Washington) in "Training Day")
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To: Scanian

The military, FBI, etc. need to change their “Jews need not apply for Arabic linguist jobs” policy to “Arabs/Muslims need not apply for Arabic linguist jobs.”

I’d wager that we have more trustworthy and reliable Arab/Muslims frontline interpreters and guides in Iraq and Afghanistan than we do in the military, FBI, etc. One does have to wonder at the vetting process and whether these individuals have ties or connections to the ACLU and CAIR. Getting pretty tired of all this diversity and empathy will cost lives and it is maddening to see that the military, FBI, etc. fails miserably to acknowledge and/or understand such.

16 posted on 12/01/2009 8:22:36 AM PST by cranked
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To: livius

US Policy? Color me surprised, although I should not be.

17 posted on 12/01/2009 8:25:30 AM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Scanian

“Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, expecting different results.” Albert Einstein

Trying to make Mohammedans into American citizens is insanity. No matter what, they will always betray us.

18 posted on 12/01/2009 9:35:13 AM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: Scanian; gubamyster; Cindy; Liz; Clintonfatigued; rabscuttle385; bcsco; All

An important note from Mike Cutler about this!

I have attached a copy of a news article below that appears in today’s edition of the New York Post that deals with yet another spy scandal involving interpreters who had been born outside the United States and then lawfully immigrated to the United States and ultimately acquired United States citizenship via the naturalization process.

The news article reports on a number of interpreters being actively investigated, who are working at the detention center at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba as were other such spies who were discovered in 2003.

Let me, once again, make my position as clear as I can. Many aliens who legally immigrate to the United States and are naturalized are loyal American citizens. My own mother was a wonderful example of an immigrant who loved this country. I can assure you that the great majority of such naturalized citizens have a great love for our nation.

The problem is that there are, unfortunately, those immigrants whose presence in our country represents a threat to national security. Among such malevolent individuals are those who have exploited their position of trust in our nation that their certificate of United States citizenship represents. These individuals have become citizens of our nation and, because they possess foreign language skills that are of great importance to our nation and that are in short supply, have parlayed their United States citizenship and language abilities into jobs that provide them with access to our nation’s intelligence and law enforcement agencies.

I have previously written about a Lebanese woman, Nada Nadim Prouty who committed immigration fraud by entering into a marriage of convenience that initially provided her with lawful immigrant satus and ultimately, United States citizenship. As I have noted previously, she became an FBI special agent and then a CIA and used her position of trust at those agencies to apparently spy on our government for Hezbollah.

Today’s news article shows how interpreters, in acting as the eyes, ears and mouths of military, law enforcement and intelligence officers at Guantanamo have gained access to the terror suspects being confined at Guantanamo. The news report makes it clear that this access enables the interpreters to alter or eliminate certain responses that those in custody have given when questioned by our officials.

These duplicitous interpreters have also disrupted the interrogation process by passing information to the detainees at Gitmo and have provided them with advice on how to make allegations against their interrogators and otherwise undermine efforts aimed at punishing those who slaughtered three thousand innocent victims on September 11, 2001 and possibly thwart future terrorist attacks.

The well documented failures of USCIS (United States Citizenship and Immigration Services) to create a bureaucracy that provides appropriate immigration benefits to those aliens who are truly deserving and entitled to those benefits while identifying, investigating and denying the applications for benefits filed by aliens who are committing fraud and/or are involved in terrorist or criminal schemes that endanger the lives of our citizens and compromises the security of our nation, make it crystal clear that USCIS needs to be be made to function as more than a high-speed assembly line where its employees are praised for moving the applications quickly and where the integrity of the process is all but ignored, and in fact, is all too often seen as an impediment to apparent primary goal of clearing up backlogs of applications.

At USCIS it would certainly appear that those in charge of that inept and beleaguered agency are instructing their subordinates, “Damn the fraud and danger to national security, full speed ahead!”

Time and time again the GAO and the Office of the Inspector General have issued reports of investigations that paint a clear picture of incompetence and ineptitude at an agency that adjudicates applications for a variety of immigration benefits including the conferring of resident alien status and even United States citizenship upon aliens. Immigration benefit fraud is hardly a “victimless crime.” All too often immigration fraud, in its various guises compromises national security and in many ways imperils the citizens of our nation. Immigration fraud also encourages still more fraud and makes honest aliens seeking to lawfully immigrate to the United States wait on the back of huge lines.

Immigration fraud has been identified by the 9/11 Commission as an entry and embedding tactic of aliens involved in terrorism. Yet little is really done to combat this huge and insidious threat to our nation.

Immigration fraud was a major issue during the Amnesty of 1986 that was enacted during the Reagan Administration. Immigration fraud was a major issue during Citizenship USA or “CUSA” a program created by the Cinton Administration to seek to naturalize more than a million aliens over a relatively short period of time. The GAO noted that perhaps as many as 100,000 of the aliens who were naturalized never should have been naturalized and, in fact, a significant number of them should probably been deported.

Worth considering is the fact CUSA was created years after the terrorist attacks of 1993- the January 1993 attack at the CIA by a citizen of Pakistan, Amir Kansi, who successfully gamed the immigration benefits program and receive political asylum by filing a fraud laden application. Kansi repaid our nation for its kindness by standing outside the CIA headquarters in Langley, Virginia on January 25, 1973, with an AK-47 and gunned down two CIA officers and seriously wounded three others. The very next month the World Trade Center was bombed by a number of Middle Eastern Terrorists including Ramzi Yousef, Mahmoud Abouhalima, Nidal Ayyad, Mohammad Salameh, Abdul Rahman Yasin and Ahmad Ajaj.

Khalid Sheikh Mohammed (KSM), in addition to being the alleged mastermind of the attacks of September 11, 2001 is alleged to have financed this first attack on the World Trade Center that was carried out on February 26, 1993.

As I noted on previous occasions, including when I have testified before Congressional hearings, Mahmoud Abouhalima acquired amnesty as an agricultural worker during the 1986 Amnesty. He never worked on any farm but, rather, drove a cab and had his driver’s license suspended on numerous occasions for a variety of vehicle and traffic law violations. In fact the only thing he was ever found to have planted was a bomb in the basement of the World Trade Center that left 6 people dead, hundreds- if not thousands of people injured, and an estimated one half billion dollars in damages inflicted to that iconic fixture of the New York City Skyline that was reduced to rubble, along with the victims who were trapped in that complex and the airliners that struck them, as a result of the attacks of September 11, 2001.

Time and time again, spies, terrorists and criminals have been shown to have easily committed immigration fraud and yet, our government has done absolutely nothing to plug this major leak that compromises the survival of our citizens and our nation!

In fact, this very same screwed up agency, USCIS, would be the agency that would be called upon to administer Comprehensive Immigration Reform if the duplicitous “leaders of our nation jammed this insane program down our throats!

Mike Cutler

19 posted on 12/02/2009 9:27:15 AM PST by AuntB (If Al Qaeda grew drugs & burned our forests instead of armed Mexican Cartels would anyone notice?)
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To: AuntB; Liz

In light of the ACLU/Soros/CAP/JFK airport immigration dustup over the blocking of Iraqi translators.

20 posted on 01/28/2017 9:56:33 PM PST by piasa
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