Beam me to Planet Gore !
Posted on 11/22/2009 6:59:30 AM PST by jdogbearhunter
"General reaction seems to be that the CRUgate emails are genuine, but with the caveat that there could be some less reliable stuff slipped in.
In the circumstances, here are some summaries of the CRUgate files. I'll update these as and when I can. The refs are the email number.
Phil Jones writes to University of Hull to try to stop sceptic Sonia Boehmer Christiansen using her Hull affiliation. Graham F Haughton of Hull University says its easier to push greenery there now SB-C has retired.(1256765544) Michael Mann discusses how to destroy a journal that has published sceptic papers.(1047388489) Tim Osborn discusses how data are truncated to stop an apparent cooling trend showing up in the results (0939154709). Analysis of impact here. Wow! Phil Jones describes the death of sceptic, John Daly, as "cheering news".(1075403821) Phil Jones encourages colleagues to delete information subject to FoI request.(1212063122)"
(Excerpt) Read more at bishophill.squarespace.com ...
What is the assessment of people here about this scandal actually derailing Copenhagen?
For those of us who have been following the Climategate story, this is a must read. Someone has went to a lot of trouble to translate those sometimes difficult to decipher e-mails into understandable English. Just an excellent job.
I don't think this will have any visable effect on Copenhagen. This is a meeting of the scam artists themselves so the whole Climategate scandal is only something they might discuss over drinks and at dinner. It will simply be dismissed as nothing of importance. This will be the stance taken by the MSM as well. It will be the Blogasphere and, just maybe Fox News, the WSJ and a few other MSM renegades who will move it forward.
A suggestion for Fox News: Let Greta interview Steve McIntyre. That would be a hoot. Then go for Hannity and Beck. That will get the ball rolling. Then get some friendly CongressCritters to follow up.
Bookmarking. This is excellent! Thank you!
Tic, tic, tic...
The MSM will gloss over the critical issues with banalities. They will accuse the “Skeptics” of taking statements out of context.
I see similarities with the ACORN scandal and how it has been pushed aside.
If the Bush administration had less than 0.1 percent of this detrimental information come out, the liberal left and MSM would be fanning the flames for weeks on end. They would not quit till they thoroughly vilify and tarnish everyone’s reputation.
From the late lamented RightWingProfessor (now residing at Darwin Central):
Information wants to be free! This stuff looks really bad. There's a discussion of laundering money from various government programs and transferring it to Russia in ways that would evade Russian taxes. This was to avoid the horrendous Russian bureaucracy and be able to spend the money on research, but still...cash transfers, all of under $10,000, with US govt. funds? Unreal.
Can you get this to people higher up the food chain on FR, or elsewhere? This looks like the definition of money laundering on the part of Hadley CRU ("structuring" as I've heard of it, "smurfing" to others).
Cheers!
Currently, we're starting to see some debate leaking into the MSM: Wash Post front page: In the trenches on climate change, hostility among foes -- Stolen e-mails reveal venomous feelings toward skeptics:
While few U.S. politicians bother to question whether humans are changing the world's climate -- nearly three years ago the U.N. Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change concluded the evidence was unequivocal -- public debate persists. And the newly disclosed private exchanges among climate scientists at Britain's Climate Research Unit of the University of East Anglia reveal an intellectual circle that appears to feel very much under attack, and eager to punish its enemies.When the Washington Post feels compelled to give even-somewhat even-handed treatment to the issue, exposing that there is no "consensus" among scientists, and covering pro-AGW researchers conspiring to shut out the views of skeptics from peer reviewed journals, saying they "will keep them out somehow -- even if we have to redefine what the peer-review literature is!". When that happens, the pro-AGW side has a problem.In one e-mail, the center's director, Phil Jones, writes Pennsylvania State University's Michael E. Mann and questions whether the work of academics that question the link between human activities and global warming deserve to make it into the prestigious IPCC report, which represents the global consensus view on climate science.
http://www.freedominion.com.pa/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=125688
Hadley CRU has apparently been hacked –[epic fraud?]
I note, ironically, that their sub-forum for this:
“Global Warming and Other Junk Sciences” was created many years ago— they called it from the first.
From the article:
“Phil Jones says he has use Mann’s “Nature trick of adding in the real temps to each series”...to hide the decline”. Real Climate says “hiding” was an unfortunate turn of phrase.”
Now that we’ve had a decade of cooling, let’s see if Real Climate will say “global warming” was an unfortunate turn of phrase.
Jerkwads
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“Climate change” and “health care” are different ends of the same stick: They’re both all-purpose pretexts for regulating every aspect of your life. Don’t take my word for it - listen to the Belgian nonentity upgraded on Friday to the Holy Roman Emperor de nos jours:
2009 is also the first year of global governance.
http://corner.nationalreview.com/
Exactly! If anyone had even the slightest doubt that the whole Global Warming / Climate Change drivel wasn't a complete fraud, these emails should stand as proof positive that we have been witness to the greatest swindle in human history. This body of evidence should bring a swift end to the careers of every one of these scam artists. Prosecutions where applicable need to begin immediately to shut down this idiocy once and for all. As always, follow the money.
A massive "Conspiracy to Defraud" investigation should begin immediately. You can bet your last dime that the shredders are working 24/7 at the institutions these den of thieves are running.
Fast talkin, lots of HOT AIR!
It looks from the comments that they received an FOI request and denied it. Then somebody hacked and got what they wanted. e-justice (and a service to all of us).
From the late lamented RightWingProfessor (now residing at Darwin Central):
Cheers!
If it has "legs" - perhaps they'll know what to do.
Can you provide a specific link?
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