Posted on 11/10/2009 12:33:15 AM PST by malkee
To kill your fellow Americans—as many as possible, unarmed and in the most helpless of circumstances, while shouting "Allahu Akbar" (God is great), requires, of course, only murderous hatred—the sort of mindset that regularly eludes the Dr. Phils of our world as the motive for mass murder of this kind.
As the meditations on Maj. Hasan's motives rolled on, "fear of deployment" has served as a major theme—one announced as fact in the headline for the New York Times's front-page story: "Told of War Horror, Gunman Feared Deployment." The authority for this intelligence? The perpetrator's cousin. No story could have better suited that newspaper's ongoing preoccupation with the theme of madness in our fighting men, and the deadly horrors of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, than this story of a victim of war pressures gone berserk. The one fly in the ointment—Maj. Hasan had of course seen no war, and no combat.
Still, with a bit of stretching, adherents of Maj. Hasan-as-war-victim theme found a substitute of sorts—namely the fears allegedly provoked in him by his exposure, as an army psychologist, to the stories of men who had been deployed. The thesis then: Maj. Hasan's mental stress, provoked by the suffering of Americans who had been in combat, caused him to go out and butcher as many of these soldiers as he could. Let's try putting that one before a jury.
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He was an Islamic Terrorist straight up!!!!!
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This afternoon Shep Smith and Judge Napolitano were going over a FOX News poll. The poll asked, “What do you think motivated the alleged Fort Hood shooter?”
Mental Illness 5%
Terrorism 82%
Scheduled deployment to war zone 6%
Not sure 2%
Other 6%
Now I usually like the Judge. I really do respect the man. But today he came across as Legally Blond.
Shep said something to the effect of, “These poll results really shock me. From everything we know, he was afraid of deploying. I don’t know where people are getting this.”
The Judge agreed with him. Had no clue where people would get the idea that this man is a terrorist.
Now had the public jumped on the shooter in FL and stood firm that *he* was a terrorist, I could understand how the media would be mystified. But with Hassan, *they’re* the ones who are clueless.
He was a POS straight up
Both the media and conservative Americans are right and wrong on this one.
WHere the right is wrong (and right):
1) Islam is a horrible religion. Indeed.
2) Political correctness kills.
3) However, mass shootings are an epidemic in America and are not isolated to Islamic extremists. Clearly there is something universally human about the sinfulness which drives people to such lengths.
Now the media:
1) They need to stop making excuses for murder and the punishment must fit this crime.
2) By the same token, the suicide rate in the military is at an all time high and if publicity of the shooting will increase awareness so be it. People REALLY need to understand the true cost of war...Imagine having just come back from war having committed hundreds of “mass shootings” and killing some INNOCENT children-by accident in the process...
As a Christian, I wonder what if just ONE person reached out to this man and offered him a different path from Islam—not just in word, but in deed.
Is your question: You wonder What he would have done if one person had reached out to him?
That's Easy
He'd have cut their throat or ... Shot Them!
As far as the suicides go, check this out. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2382800/posts
From the dictionary:
Terrorism
noun
1. the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, esp. for political purposes. (he did this to make a statement about the Iraq and Afghan Wars)
2. the state of fear and submission produced by terrorism or terrorization. (I’d say he accomplished this. Our service-members are sure nervous now!)
3. a terroristic method of governing or of resisting a government.
Terrorist
noun
1. a person, usually a member of a group, who uses or advocates terrorism. (He gave a speech to other doctors advocating beheading of Infidels. He also advocated “pouring hot oil” down the throats of non-believers)
2. a person who terrorizes or frightens others. (did that)
3. (formerly) a member of a political group in Russia aiming at the demoralization of the government by terror.
4. an agent or partisan of the revolutionary tribunal during the Reign of Terror in France.
By these definitions in the dictionary, THIS MAN WAS A TERRORIST.
I agree with you that shooting sprees are not limited to Islamic fundamentalists, but when an average person looses it, they are pouring out their hate and rage. When an Islamic fundamentalist does it, he’s pouring out his hate a rage, trying to change our country’s political policies *and* encouraging other to follow suit.
After the Colombine killings, did *anyone* in the world publicly praise the killers and encourage others to act as they did? And yet, there are many lauding Hassan’s actions right now.
There is a difference. Terrorism is highly contagious. Just ask the Israelis. Once it get’s a foothold, it’s almost impossible to get rid of.
Hasan was a religious Mujihad zealot.
That means he was given Jihadist Muslim teachings specal Hadith prayer transmissions, and he practiced for years on the path of struggle, and reached the final stages of Mujahid ritual sacrifice of himself and his victims, and the spititual payofff was supposed to be Hasan and his victims all basking in the heavenly radiance of Allah.
He was not sick, just a religious zealot possessed by the spirit of ALLAH. A form of possession which was self induced, and which is continued to be surreptitiously supported by “peaceful” Muslim communities all across America. Call it self hypnosis , but he was not sick.
There are likely several thousand on the same path out of the 15000 Muslims who are in our military.
If a person can be born again as a peace-loving Christian, Buddhist or Atheist in the time it takes to drive from Paradise, MI to Dearborn and back then it’s possible that a once-peacful Muslim could revert to violent radical Islam on the same trip (in separate cars, of course).
Hasan’s “crime” is NOT one just of your run-of-the-mill mass shootings and it has nothing to do with any inadvertant overseas wartime collateral damage. His character is weak. Too weak to be at the rank of US Army Major and in a “doctor’s” position. They know that now and they knew it some time ago.
Political correctness DOES kill. It kills people who deserve a chance and actually have the constitutional right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness- the unborn.
Political correctness could factor in the outsome of Hasan’s court martial where he is either aquitted or spared the death sentence. Should the military adhere to absolute correctness throughout the process, Hasan is a dead man and rightly so.
Is there anyone out there who would object to Hasan’s ending up before a firing squad? Of course there are. However, they would be among the vast minority and most of them aren’t really in a position to do much about it...Unless they too have a weakness for violent Islamic jihad and decide to make it their business to do something about it.
Hasan’s act of terror is not a factor in the cost of our war, it is a factor in the big picture of modern Islamic jihad.
Yes, and there is no way to assess the degree of damage the world of psychology has done to this nation and the world. While there is some good, the “insane,” concepts they have institutionalized far outweigh that good, in my opinion, as a person who has worked and studied in that world..I stopped watching Dr. Phil a long time ago as I found his show to be more Jerry Springer than anything really helpful to people. Also, his assessments of family problems left me scratching my head at times. I could never trust his assessment of the Ft. Hood shooter. He is entertainment and big money. That’s it.
You look like a pretty big guy but you are a one note singer with an under capitalized intellect.
This illustrates what I have said on several different occasions. Anyone who wants to be taken seriously on the national scene now must spout insanity. Anyone who sounds like what was considered normal a few years ago is now some sort of extremist. How on Earth can a man who walks in and starts shooting his fellow soldiers after shouting Allahu Akbar NOT be a terrorist? He is in fact BY DEFINITION a terrorist!
The idiots are running the USA asylum for certain.
The women of America made ‘Dr’ Phil and Oprah multi-millionaires peddling their pseudo psychiatry and new age philosophies.
Most people don’t know that it is reported that ‘Doctor’ Phil is not even a doctor nor a licensed physician.
“However, Dr. Phil is not a licensed psychologist. He claims the “Dr.” in the Dr. Phil name because he has a Ph.D. in psychology. He did have a license 20 years ago. Dr. Phil was reprimanded by the Texas State Board of Examiners of Psychologists for an “inappropriate dual relationship” with a therapy client in 1988; McGraw was required to take ethics classes in order to continue his private practice in Texas. McGraw admits to giving the client a job at his office (which of course isn’t allowed) but denied carrying on a sexual relationship with the 19 year old, who says their relationship was both sexual and codependent. Shortly thereafter he founded Courtroom Sciences, Inc. which is how he met the great and powerful Oprah.”
Replace “Terrorism” with “Radical Islamic Religion” and it would be perfect...
I wonder if it is even permissible for someone on a military base to do so... I bet it would be considered a "hate crime" given our PC culture...
More like a needle in a haystack, who ever heard of him until this?
In addition, Islam considers conversion from it to another belief system to be apostasy, punishable by death. Given this, I’d imagine that, even without all the brainwashing that goes on in the process of Islamization, it’d still be more difficult than usual to convert radical Muslims to another way of thinking.
Seriously? Do you mean the feds in general- or the administration in particular?
DOROTHY RABINOWITZ -— one of the few principled writers in the MSM.
I heard that as well. It probably has something to do with Hasan's position on the OBAMA DHS TRANSITION TEAM.
The Judge agreed with him. Had no clue where people would get the idea that this man is a terrorist.
Shep is a pretty boy PC wimp whose only talent, besides batting his Maybelline eyelashes, is running over women in parking spaces he wants.
I'm surprised at the judge, though.
According to one congressman, the administration in particular
So much for our Home Land Security apparatus!!!! Didn’t work very well did it? This Muslim Extremist Terrorist should have been drummed out of the Army a long time ago!!!!!
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