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Obama's Afghan Plan: About 40K More Troops
CBSNews.com ^ | 11/09/06 | David Martin

Posted on 11/09/2009 4:07:24 PM PST by OldDeckHand

(CBS) Tonight, after months of conferences with top advisors, President Obama has settled on a new strategy for Afghanistan. CBS News correspondent David Martin reports that the president will send a lot more troops and plans to keep a large force there, long term.

The president still has more meetings scheduled on Afghanistan, but informed sources tell CBS News he intends to give Gen. Stanley McChrystal most, if not all, the additional troops he is asking for.

McChrystal wanted 40,000 and the president has tentatively decided to send four combat brigades plus thousands more support troops. A senior officer says "that's close to what [McChrystal] asked for." All the president's military advisers have recommended sending more troops.

(Excerpt) Read more at cbsnews.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; bho44; bhodod; mcchrystal; nato; oef; oefsurge
It is CBS, so it could be complete bunk, or a trial balloon to gauge the reaction of the leftists. Who knows.
1 posted on 11/09/2009 4:07:25 PM PST by OldDeckHand
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To: OldDeckHand

Unless they change the rules of engagement and allow our troops to operate without constraints, they might as well build the helicopter pads on the US Embassy in Kabul right now - eventually they are gonna need them.


2 posted on 11/09/2009 4:09:50 PM PST by Gaffer
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To: OldDeckHand

Zero sure has a knack for politics. He made conservatives and pro-military people mad by dithering. Now he’s gonna make his own base mad by giving the troops anyway.


3 posted on 11/09/2009 4:10:43 PM PST by colorado tanker (What's it all about, Barrrrry? Is it just for the power, you live?)
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To: OldDeckHand

There are some Dems who oppose the financing..including the Botox BatWitch.


4 posted on 11/09/2009 4:11:08 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: OldDeckHand

40k or 80k...it doesn’t matter. The Muslim man-child’s rules of engagement are going to kill our finest in that distant hellhole.


5 posted on 11/09/2009 4:12:10 PM PST by Motorheadlemmy ('Hey Clark, I bet you could use a cold one...')
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To: OldDeckHand

Mr. President, the Nobel committee is on line one.


6 posted on 11/09/2009 4:12:29 PM PST by kingu (Party for rent - conservative opinions not required.)
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To: kingu

Frank on Afghanistan: More people ‘need protection from criminals’ than al Qaeda
By Jordan Fabian - 11/09/09 02:29 PM ET

Rep. Barney Frank said he would oppose a troop increase in Afghanistan because people in his district face greater threats than al Qaeda.

Frank (D-Mass.), the House Financial Services Committee chairman, said that the federal government needs to spend its funds on domestic priorities rather than on foreign wars in light of the nation’s record $1.4 trillion budget deficit. Frank said that domestic problems, such as crime and global warming, pose a greater “threat” to citizens in his district than al Qaeda does.

“There are cops in my districts who have been laid off. And there are people in my district who need more protection from criminals than they need from al Qaeda,” Frank said during an appearance at Cornell University on Sunday. “That’s just a fact of life.”

Frank continued that “they need protection {inaudible} from urban areas where there have been foreclosures on the fire department. And they need more protection from bridges falling down when they drive over them. And from pollution in the water, et cetera.”

In opposing additional troops be sent to Afghanistan, he also cited the human cost of war.

“I sat in a church where they buried a kid who was killed in a war I voted for. That’s a very serious responsibility. A very tough one,” he said.

The Obama administration since September has been developing a new strategy in Afghanistan. The administration began the strategic review following a report issued by commanding Gen. Stanley McChrystal that called for the military to deploy 40,000 additional troops to the war-torn nation.

The process has been delayed by several roadblocks, including reports of widespread fraud in the reelection of Afghan President Hamid Karzai.

Frank said that if he were the president, he would consider adding more troops in Afghanistan only if the government can pay for it by withdrawing soldiers from Iraq in six months, as opposed to the 18-month process initiated by the military earlier this year.

Regardless, Frank said the eight-year-long war has taken too high a toll on the country.

“We are doing an enormous harm to the quality of life in American society,” he said.


7 posted on 11/09/2009 4:13:37 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

He has no choice. He campaigned on winning in Afghanistan,but he will now tie their hands and slowly bleed the country. Shades of Lyndon Johnson.


8 posted on 11/09/2009 4:13:37 PM PST by Oldexpat
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To: OldDeckHand

He waited until the House approved the Pelosi mess on health care. He did not want to stir the pot until that was done. It won’t be that big of a deal with the Senate so now he can betray his base fairly safely. At least he is an equal opportunity hoser.

Nevertheless, whatever the reason I am grateful our guys are getting some more support over there.


9 posted on 11/09/2009 4:15:47 PM PST by Truth is a Weapon (Truth, it hurts soooo good!)
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To: OldDeckHand

Lets see if there are going to be further terrorist attacks now.


10 posted on 11/09/2009 4:15:50 PM PST by dila813
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To: OldDeckHand
My headline:

Now That Golf Courses Have Closed For Season, President Makes Time for Afgan War


11 posted on 11/09/2009 4:17:58 PM PST by earlJam
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To: OldDeckHand

The next big question is.....Will the President allow them to take their weapons and will they be allowed to defend themselves against muslims?


12 posted on 11/09/2009 4:19:10 PM PST by RC2
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To: OldDeckHand

Trial balloon?


13 posted on 11/09/2009 4:19:37 PM PST by black_diamond
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To: RummyChick
“We are doing an enormous harm to the quality of life in American society,” he said.

Fwank's spent so much of his life in the toilet, he no longer recognizes those rare monents he slips up and tells the truth.

14 posted on 11/09/2009 4:25:30 PM PST by glock rocks (Wait, what?)
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To: black_diamond
"Trial balloon?"

trial balloon n. - An idea or a plan advanced tentatively to test public reaction.

15 posted on 11/09/2009 4:32:16 PM PST by OldDeckHand (Obamacare - So bad, even Joe Lieberman isn't going to vote for it.)
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To: OldDeckHand

EVERY DAY A NEW NUMBER


16 posted on 11/09/2009 4:36:00 PM PST by Carley (THE MEDIA UNDERSTANDS CREDENTIALS BUT DOES NOT UNDERSTAND PRINCIPLES)
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To: OldDeckHand
It's not like Obammy really even cares about these troops...he already proved that with Ft. Hood.

Simply a means to an end for him...

17 posted on 11/09/2009 4:37:58 PM PST by NMEwithin
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To: OldDeckHand

This is in line with what the commander in the field wanted, but it faces serious opposition from the Democrats.


18 posted on 11/09/2009 4:43:06 PM PST by popdonnelly (Yes, we disagree - no, we won't shut up - no, we won't quit.)
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To: OldDeckHand

Well this just proves Afghanistan is all about politics. No coincidence that he drops this news a few days after the libs got their left wing nut base the healthcare legislation they were desperate for.


19 posted on 11/09/2009 4:44:14 PM PST by NotSoModerate (Obama's spin isn't ordinary, it's roller coaster ride after a few beers spin.)
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To: OldDeckHand

My kids are in, one deploying in January. They had the discussion, should we get out because of bambi? They’ve opted in, the US is bigger than one man, God Bless our military, we need them now more than ever! PS, they are oathkeepers.


20 posted on 11/09/2009 4:51:50 PM PST by Indy Pendance (Conservatives: we are their worst nightmare)
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To: OldDeckHand

Do I HEAR 45? Forty-five forty-five forty-five ibbiddy ibbiddy FORTY SIX forty six forty six ...hey kid, you makin' a bid or just scratchin' your nose? Forty six...
21 posted on 11/09/2009 4:55:42 PM PST by dr_who
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To: NotSoModerate

Democrat policy keeps sinking to new levels of cynicism. They can get away with it because their voters are so damn STUPID.


22 posted on 11/09/2009 4:57:39 PM PST by dr_who
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To: Oldexpat
He campaigned on winning in Afghanistan,but he will now tie their hands and slowly bleed the country. Shades of Lyndon Johnson.

And it's one, two, three, what are we fightin' for? Don't tell me I don't give a damn. Next stop's Afghanistan.

I hope not, for sure, but this could be Obama's VN.

23 posted on 11/09/2009 5:02:11 PM PST by johniegrad
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To: glock rocks

Bwanny Fwank is an Expert Analanalyst!


24 posted on 11/09/2009 5:06:11 PM PST by True Republican Patriot (May GOD Continue to BLESS Our Great President George W. Bush!!)
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To: glock rocks
“There are cops in my districts who have been laid off. And there are people in my district who need more protection from criminals than they need from al Qaeda,”

What,eh, Barney? Spent all the local taxes on gay parades and public bathrooms patrols, guess we need a national force to do what the local officials should be doing?

25 posted on 11/09/2009 5:08:24 PM PST by RedMonqey ( John Galt , Please pick up the white courtesy phone.....)
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To: OldDeckHand

Bammy is sending more troops to reduce unemployment in the U.S. If he brings troops home, he adds to his ever increasing unemployment lines.


26 posted on 11/09/2009 5:09:50 PM PST by reaganbooster (The democrat party symbol should be the grim reaper instead of the donkey.)
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To: OldDeckHand

My guess is that they are leaking 40K so that when they come-in with the actual number (I’m guessing 25 - 30K) they can portray it in a positive light with the Kool-aid drinkers.


27 posted on 11/09/2009 5:20:54 PM PST by Tallguy ("The sh- t's chess, it ain't checkers!" -- Alonzo (Denzel Washington) in "Training Day")
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To: reaganbooster
Long unemployment lines?

Yeah, that's what I've been wondering.

28 posted on 11/09/2009 5:25:08 PM PST by hennie pennie
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To: RedMonqey
guess we need a national force to do what the local officials citizens should be doing?
29 posted on 11/09/2009 5:25:17 PM PST by glock rocks (Wait, what?)
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To: OldDeckHand

So...

Obama was simply waiting this whole time so he’d preserve enough support for the ObamaCare House vote.

Nice ... Really nice.


30 posted on 11/09/2009 5:35:47 PM PST by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: glock rocks
Frank continued that “they need protection {inaudible} from urban areas where there have been foreclosures on the fire department.

Barney's words went {inaudible} when he spied a hot stud-muffin reporter in the front row uncrossing his legs...

31 posted on 11/09/2009 5:36:05 PM PST by COBOL2Java (Big government more or less guarantees rule by creeps and misfits.)
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To: OldDeckHand; black_diamond
Trial balloon? No way...

White House Shoots Down Reports of Obama Troop Decision for Afghanistan

32 posted on 11/09/2009 5:50:13 PM PST by glock rocks (Wait, what?)
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To: OldDeckHand

Sorry, that was my guess as to what was happening, not a question as to what a TB is. Didn’t read your post under the excerpt.


33 posted on 11/09/2009 6:39:56 PM PST by black_diamond
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To: Indy Pendance

God bless you and your fine family for all they are doing for this great country!


34 posted on 11/09/2009 7:15:56 PM PST by jennyjenny
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To: OldDeckHand

He likely will announce it at the Fort Hood Memorial Service
, converting it to his own personal presser, Tuesday, November 10th.


35 posted on 11/09/2009 7:25:39 PM PST by Candor7 (The effective weapons Against Fascism are ridicule, derision, and truth (.Member NRA)
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To: black_diamond
-Trial balloon?- balloon boy Pictures, Images and Photos
36 posted on 11/09/2009 7:40:34 PM PST by massmike (...So this is what happens when OJ's jury elects the president....)
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To: massmike

Its his war now.


37 posted on 11/09/2009 8:01:32 PM PST by londonfog
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To: OldDeckHand

This is akin to waiting for a new Pope to be elected, everyone reading things into puffs of smoke - or, in this case, careful leaks/trial balloons.

Pitiful.


38 posted on 11/09/2009 8:53:40 PM PST by 1066AD
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To: OldDeckHand
McChrystal wanted 40,000 and the president has tentatively decided to send four combat brigades plus thousands more support troops.

How many million$ of US taxpayer's money will he send the Taliban to "Spread The Weapons"?

39 posted on 11/10/2009 12:59:29 AM PST by 4woodenboats (tap tap tap - "The Bombing Will Begin In 5 Minutes")
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To: 4woodenboats

I thought this has been debunked.


40 posted on 11/10/2009 7:21:15 AM PST by nikos1121 (Praying for -16.)
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To: nikos1121
I was being sarcastic, in reference to the obamanation funding Hamas, which is fact.

I haven't heard any rumor, much less reporting of funding the Taliban, so thought the /s was obvious.

I'm pretty sure that if/when the Taliban gets 0 dollars, there will be multiple block lettered headlines, at least here.

41 posted on 11/10/2009 8:03:48 AM PST by 4woodenboats (tap tap tap - "The Bombing Will Begin In 5 Minutes")
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To: OldDeckHand
OBAMA'S WAR[/sarcasm]
42 posted on 11/10/2009 10:20:14 AM PST by KTM rider ( ..........tell me this really isn't happening ! !)
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