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For Virginia Tech, no sign of relief: Beleaguered campus confronts connection to another tragedy
WP ^ | Sunday, November 8, 2009 | Jenna Johnson and Derek Kravitz

Posted on 11/08/2009 7:26:05 PM PST by HokieMom

BLACKSBURG, Va. -- As Americans scrambled to make sense of the life of Army psychiatrist Nidal M. Hasan, who allegedly killed 13 people and injured 38 more at Fort Hood, Tex., last week, one fact stood out for those living here: Hasan graduated from Virginia Tech in 1995.

"We were like, 'Oh, jeez, not again,' " said Liana Bayne, a freshman communications major who was in charge of writing about the shooting for the campus newspaper, the Collegiate Times. The paper's student editors quickly re-framed their story to reflect the school's connection to another tragedy.

It has been 2 1/2 years since the nation's deadliest massacre involving a single gunman unfolded on Virginia Tech's campus. That traumatic episode, in which senior Seung Hui Cho, who had a history of mental health problems, shot and killed 32 people before committing suicide, shocked the campus community and led to many months of investigation and debate about mental health care, campus security and the college's role in keeping tabs on its students -- a public relations nightmare that would threaten the reputation of any institution.

The grim news sometimes seems as if it won't stop coming: In January, a graduate student from China was decapitated by another graduate student with a kitchen knife as they sat drinking coffee in a campus cafe. In August, two students were found slain at a campground about 15 miles from campus. Police are still searching for a Tech student who disappeared outside a rock concert in Charlottesville in October. And now, Hasan's connection to the university.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: forthood; nidalmalikhasan; virginiatech

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1 posted on 11/08/2009 7:26:06 PM PST by HokieMom
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To: HokieMom
^ In January, a graduate student from China was decapitated by another graduate student with a kitchen knife as they sat drinking coffee in a campus cafe. In August, two students were found slain at a campground about 15 miles from campus. Police are still searching for a Tech student who disappeared outside a rock concert in Charlottesville in October. ^

What the heck?!

2 posted on 11/08/2009 7:28:19 PM PST by the anti-liberal
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To: HokieMom

This is what we get for having a liberal arts and Liberal colleges.


3 posted on 11/08/2009 7:28:40 PM PST by ncfool (Obama Bare fisted Politican at home. Pantywaist VS. Real thugs abroad.)
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To: the anti-liberal

A Chinese muslim. A foreign student. He attacked a Chinese woman he was assigned to be her mentor. She had only been here a very short time.


4 posted on 11/08/2009 7:31:17 PM PST by HokieMom (Pacepa : Can the U.S. afford a president who can't recognize anti-Americanism?)
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MEDIA ADVISORY: Nidal Malik Hasan’s connection with Virginia Tech

By Mark Owczarski

BLACKSBURG, Va., November 6, 2009 — Virginia Tech has confirmed with the United States Army Human Resources Command in Alexandria, Va., that the alleged shooter at Fort Hood, Texas, once attended Virginia Tech.

According to Virginia Tech records, Nidal Malik Hasan first enrolled at Virginia Tech for Summer Session II in 1992, and completed coursework in spring semester 1995. He received a Bachelor of Science degree with honors in biochemistry from the College of Agriculture and Life Sciences. He minored in biology and chemistry.

Prior to enrolling at Virginia Tech, Hasan was a student and completed coursework at Barstow Community College in Barstow, Calif., and at Virginia Western Community College in Roanoke, Va.

Hasan was not a member of the Virginia Tech Corps of Cadets, nor was he a member of any ROTC program at Virginia Tech.

Contact Mark Owczarski at maowczar@vt.edu or (540) 231-5223

http://www.vtnews.vt.edu/story.php?relyear=2009&itemno=848

Early reports claimed that Hasan was a member of the Corps of Cadets. That report was in error.


5 posted on 11/08/2009 7:37:26 PM PST by HokieMom (Pacepa : Can the U.S. afford a president who can't recognize anti-Americanism?)
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To: ncfool

The name of the school is Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University. I don’t think they consider themselves a liberal arts college, but I could be wrong.


6 posted on 11/08/2009 7:39:03 PM PST by HokieMom (Pacepa : Can the U.S. afford a president who can't recognize anti-Americanism?)
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To: HokieMom
Is that true that he was a Chinese muslim?

I hadn't heard or read that.

7 posted on 11/08/2009 7:39:06 PM PST by mckenzie7 (I am a European American! Silly me. I never realized that before! Thanks, oh great unifier!)
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To: HokieMom
For Virginia Tech, no sign of relief: Beleaguered campus confronts connection to another tragedy

This wasn't a tragedy. It was a mass murder, and it took place in what was essentially another so-called "gun-free" zone, just like they made Virginia Tech into.

8 posted on 11/08/2009 7:40:01 PM PST by john in springfield (One has to belong to the intelligentsia to believe such things.No ordinary man could be such a fool.)
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To: HokieMom
In another room, Susanna C. Rinehart allowed the 650 students in her introductory theater class...

650 students in one class. Some towns aren't that freaking big.

Good luck ever getting even one question answered.

And this is why my kid is going to a small home town university. Even though he's a little miffed about it. There was no way that I was sending my freshman student off to potentially drown in a sea of anonymity.

Perhaps that depersonalization is part of the problem.

9 posted on 11/08/2009 7:42:02 PM PST by elli1
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To: elli1

<Perhaps that depersonalization is part of the problem.

It can be, but many big schools try to personalize the campus experience for their students. Schools have classes in the dorms, special programs for honors, language immersion, science, etc. The students take most or all of their classes together, and have small classes.

Look around and see if any of the bigger schools he is interested in has a program like this where people will know your son and the big school won’t seem so overwhelming.


10 posted on 11/08/2009 7:46:11 PM PST by radiohead (Buy ammo, get your kids out of government schools, pray for the Republic.)
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To: HokieMom
The joy and peace of gun-free zones is a gift that just keeps on giving.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

11 posted on 11/08/2009 7:53:19 PM PST by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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To: HokieMom

We are still waiting on someone to fill in the gaps in his public record. Who selected this guy for Med School and a commission? We were not exactly hard up for people in the 90’s, did CAIR give him a boost? There is a lot of missing years on this guys bio and MSM is not looking very hard.


12 posted on 11/08/2009 8:00:45 PM PST by ClayinVA ("Those who don't remember history are doomed to repeat it")
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To: mckenzie7
Is that true that he was a Chinese muslim?

There were reports at the time that he is a Uighur like the man who decapitated the man on the Greyhound bus in Canada. I suppose that report could have been incorrect as well.

13 posted on 11/08/2009 8:01:37 PM PST by HokieMom (Pacepa : Can the U.S. afford a president who can't recognize anti-Americanism?)
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To: HokieMom; antiliberal
A Chinese muslim.

Oddly enough, the arresting officer was female:

By the time police arrived, Zhu was holding the woman's head in his hand, an officer testified.

"I saw a body lying and I saw a gentleman walking toward me with a head in his hand," testified Nicole Irvine of the Virginia Tech Police Department.

Irvine said he dropped the head when she ordered him to put his hands in the air.


14 posted on 11/08/2009 8:02:23 PM PST by cynwoody
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To: cynwoody

Like Officer Kimberly Munley at Fort Hood. And it was a woman who took out the shooter at the church in Colorado.


15 posted on 11/08/2009 8:05:53 PM PST by HokieMom (Pacepa : Can the U.S. afford a president who can't recognize anti-Americanism?)
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To: ncfool

http://www.armyrotc.vt.edu/Cadets/medal_of_honor_recipients.htm


16 posted on 11/08/2009 8:07:09 PM PST by org.whodat (Vote: Chuck De Vore in 2012.)
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To: autumnraine

ping


17 posted on 11/08/2009 8:12:38 PM PST by ClayinVA ("Those who don't remember history are doomed to repeat it")
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To: HokieMom
Prior to enrolling at Virginia Tech, Hasan was a student and completed coursework at Barstow Community College in Barstow, Calif.,

Why in the world was this guy in Barstow, CA? Was he enlisted back in the early 90s?

18 posted on 11/08/2009 8:15:21 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (Keep your dog. Get rid of a Liberal.)
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To: elli1

I’m speaking only from my perspective.

I went to one of those big schools, namely the University of Minnesota. Back then (the early 80’s), we did have the 300 - 500 student classes. However, they tended to be only certain entry-level classes like Psychology. There were other entry-level classes (like Political Science) that were only 100 students.

I lived in a dorm on campus and made friends there, some of whom I still keep in touch with. Others I made as I took advanced classes in my major. As I progressed further into my major, I saw the same students - and they saw me as well. That eliminated the anonymity feeling.

I occasionally had feelings of depersonalization during my years at the U but they were related more towards the way the campus administration looked at students during that time - essentially, it was “Pay your tuition - and shut up”. From what I see of the U now, that’s no longer the case.


19 posted on 11/08/2009 8:20:36 PM PST by MplsSteve
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To: VeniVidiVici

He enlisted in the Army after graduating from high school, according to what I’ve read.


20 posted on 11/08/2009 8:34:48 PM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: ClayinVA

The only real gap I’ve seen is 1995-1997, but it’s a key one. It’s the time between his Virginia Tech graduation and entry into the Uniformed Services medical school. He may have re-enlisted, to improve his chances of getting into the “free” medical school, but if so, I don’t understand why we haven’t heard about it. And there’s just no way they admitted someone to the Uniformed Services medical school without documentation of what he was doing while he was applying. This info is being withheld for some reason, and it’s being withheld by the US military.


21 posted on 11/08/2009 8:38:01 PM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: HokieMom

just plain weird


22 posted on 11/08/2009 9:29:19 PM PST by GOP Poet (Obama is an OLYMPIC failure.)
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To: HokieMom

Seung-Hui Cho and Nidal Malik Hasan are from Northern Virginia. Cho was born in South Korea, while Hasan was born in Northern Virginia.


23 posted on 11/08/2009 11:23:26 PM PST by Ptarmigan (God Hates Bunnies. God Loves Ptarmigans)
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To: Ptarmigan

Hasan’s family is from Jordan originally?


24 posted on 11/09/2009 3:06:46 AM PST by HokieMom (Pacepa : Can the U.S. afford a president who can't recognize anti-Americanism?)
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To: GovernmentShrinker

The real gap is 1988 to 1995 after he graduated High School, I don’t think he was enlisted because he has almost no service ribbons. His official bio pic only show a National Service Ribbon, he should have gotten more than that if he was enlisted for 8 years, an Army Achievement medal at least or some kind of overseas service ribbon. Also, he has no jump wings or any other kind of qualification badge, you have got to do that stuff if you want to get promoted.


25 posted on 11/09/2009 8:43:09 AM PST by ClayinVA ("Those who don't remember history are doomed to repeat it")
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To: HokieMom

Hasan’s family are Palestinian.


26 posted on 11/09/2009 9:03:51 AM PST by Ptarmigan (God Hates Bunnies. God Loves Ptarmigans)
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To: Ptarmigan

Ok, thanks. From news reports, it seems many of them are fairly Americanized.


27 posted on 11/09/2009 11:19:28 AM PST by HokieMom (Pacepa : Can the U.S. afford a president who can't recognize anti-Americanism?)
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