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Nidal Malik Hasan Unanswered Questions
November 8th 2009 | DaveTesla

Posted on 11/08/2009 7:03:09 PM PST by DaveTesla

The media has made little mention of the fact that Nidal Malik Hasan and his family belong to the Dar al-Hijrah Islamic Center in Falls Church
Va.. Dar al-Hijrah is a turnstile for terrorists and terror. Remarkably, four of the 9/11 hijackers briefly lived in the town of Falls Church,
Virginia, three blocks from the WAMY office headed by Abdullah bin Laden. All four attended the Dar al-Hijrah Islamic Center in Falls
Church Va.

Dar al-Hijrah Islamic Center had members like:

Osama Bin Laden's nephew Abdullah bin Laden.
http://www.historycommons.org/entity.jsp?entity=abdullah_bin_laden

Sheikh Mohammed al-Hanooti, who was named as a co-conspirator in the first World Trade Center bombing.
http://www.historycommons.org/entity.jsp?entity=sheikh_muhammad_al-hanooti

Hamas leader and fugitive Mousa Abu Marzook.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mousa_Mohammed_Abu_Marzook

Nawaf al-Hazmi who was one of five terrorists named by FBI as hijackers of American Airlines flight 77, which was crashed into the
Pentagon in the September 11 attack.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nawaf_al-Hazmi

Hani Hanjour A pilot who had lived intermittently in the United States for ten years, (August 13, 1972 – September 11, 2001)
was one of five men named by the FBI as hijackers of American Airlines Flight 77 in the September 11 attacks. The FBI believes
that he piloted the plane and crashed it into The Pentagon.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hani_Hanjour

Ahmed Omar Abu Ali, an al-Qaida operative recently convicted of plotting to assassinate President Bush.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmed_Omar_Abu_Ali

Now one more terrorist from Falls Church Vargina who was a member of the Dar al-Hijrah Islamic Center can be added to the list,
Nidal Malik Hasan
Nidal Malik Hasan had attended the Dar al-Hijrah mosque in Falls Church, Virginia as did his family.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Hood_shooting

Hasan's aunt, Noel Hasan also lives in Falls Church, Va.

So what does Nidal Malik Hasan have in common with the 9/11 terrorists.
Dar al-Hijrah Islamic Center and Falls Church Va.

The Roanoke Times (Virginia) Published Saturday, April 18, 1998
HASAN , Hanan Ismail, (Nora), 49, passed away Wednesday, May 30, 2001
She is survived by her three sons, Nidal , Anas, and Eyad; her parents; six sisters; two brothers; 29 nieces and nephews; 2 great-nieces;
and scores of extended family. She will be greatly missed by all those who knew her. Funeral services and prayers will be held May 31
at Dar Al Hijrah Islamic Center in Falls Church at 1 p.m.
http://homelandsecurityus.com/?p=3212

The Great Al-Qaeda “Patriot”
By: Paul Sperry
FrontPageMagazine.com | Monday, April 09, 2007
http://97.74.65.51/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=26058

Dar al-Hijrah Islamic Center, which tax records show has received large donations from the Islamic Relief Organization, is a Muslim Brotherhood bastion.
Another former imam and current prayer leader, for example, is an admitted Brotherhood member from the Sudan. The mosque’s deed was signed by an
Alamoudi crony who has admitted participating in the Brotherhood’s “Ikhwan” movement in America.

Dar al-Hijrah is a turnstile for terrorists and terror suspects. A prayer leader, Sheikh Mohammed al-Hanooti, was named as an unindicted co-conspirator in the
first World Trade Center bombing. Other dubious mosque members have included: Alamoudi, Abdullah bin Laden, Osama’s nephew; Hamas leader and fugitive Mousa
Abu Marzook and his partners Ismail Elbarasse and Abdelhaleem Ashqar, who was convicted of obstruction of justice in February; convicted Virginia Jihad Network
leader Randall “Ismail” Royer, a former CAIR official; and Ahmed Omar Abu Ali, an al-Qaida operative recently convicted of plotting to assassinate President
Bush.

Leaders of the mosque rallied around Ali, calling the trial a Zionist “witch hunt,” even after it became obvious he was guilty.

What’s more, the phone number to the mosque was found in the German apartment of Ramzi bin al-Shibh, roommate of 9/11 ringleader Mohamed Atta. Atta’s
deputy “emir” in the “raid” on America, Nawaf al-Hazmi, worshipped at Dar al-Hijrah, along with the pilot who crashed the plane into the Pentagon.

Back to mosque leader Esam Omeish, the “American patriot.” Court records I’ve obtained show he put his home up for bond collateral in 2004 to help spring from jail
a terrorist suspect who was caught allegedly casing the Chesapeake bridge for attack. His dubious pal Ismail Elbarasse is a founding member of Dar al-Hijrah.


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This needs to be stopped.
1 posted on 11/08/2009 7:03:09 PM PST by DaveTesla
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To: DaveTesla

We have been looking for Osama Bin Laden for years. Has anybody ever put a picture of Obama next to Osama and removed by photo shop Osama’s Beard? You think we know Obama’s missing background?

Why did he bow to the Saudi’s?

America shoud be worried about Obama! He will see the questions bout the shooter are never answered.


2 posted on 11/08/2009 7:06:27 PM PST by ncfool (Obama Bare fisted Politican at home. Pantywaist VS. Real thugs abroad.)
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To: DaveTesla

PC Kills.


3 posted on 11/08/2009 7:08:08 PM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: DaveTesla

ping


4 posted on 11/08/2009 7:19:54 PM PST by Batman11 (Obama will dispatch skittle $hitting unicorns around the world to bring peace and prosperity to all!)
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To: DaveTesla
The dirt bag was born and raised in Roanoke Va. Other than claims made by his cousin, wanting their minute of fame, I have no ideal where he attended a cerdo house.

I just know for a fact the military command is trying to hide their neglect in this matter. Several general officers need to hand in their papers.

5 posted on 11/08/2009 7:35:43 PM PST by org.whodat (Vote: Chuck De Vore in 2012.)
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To: DaveTesla

This was not a spur of the moment decision by the shooter. His choice of a FN 5.7 handgun shows malice and forethought.


6 posted on 11/08/2009 7:36:16 PM PST by TC Rider (The United States Constitution - 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: org.whodat
“I have no ideal where he attended a cerdo house.”

I posted links showing it was the Dar al-Hijrah Islamic Center in Falls Church Va.

“I just know for a fact the military command is trying to hide their neglect in this matter. Several general officers need to hand in their papers.”

Did it ever dawn on you that “the military command”
follow orders from Congress and the White House.
If you want to place blame follow the PC trail.

There are a few conscientious objectors in the Army.
They follow orders or go to the RCF. They don't massacre fellow soldiers. Your falling right into the hands of the left. Where was the FBI? Did they notify forcecom? Or did the FBI fall victim to the same pc pressure?

7 posted on 11/08/2009 8:05:42 PM PST by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: org.whodat

We still don’t know what this guy has been doing all of these years. There is an 8 year gap before he started at Tech and then someone hands him a commission and a slot at Med School, these things don’t grow on trees.


8 posted on 11/08/2009 8:05:47 PM PST by ClayinVA ("Those who don't remember history are doomed to repeat it")
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To: ClayinVA; DaveTesla
We still don’t know what this guy has been doing all of these years. There is an 8 year gap before he started at Tech and then someone hands him a commission and a slot at Med School, these things don’t grow on trees.

According to a NY Times timeline, here:

- Hasan joined the army in 1988, right after graduating from Roanoke's William Fleming H.S.

- Hasan graduated from V Tech College of Agrriculture and Life Sciences with a BS degreee in 1995, "after attending several community colleges."

According to the Roanoke Times, former neighbors of  the Hasans in Vinton said he went to Virginia Western (a community college), and The Roanoke Times archives show he graduated from Virginia Tech in 1995, but...

"Virginia Tech, however, had no record of Hasan's participation in its Corps of Cadets or ROTC program. The Washington Post reported he enlisted in the Army after high school."

According to foxdc.com:

Military records show he also served in the ROTC as an undergraduate at Virginia Tech in Blacksburg and received a bachelor's degree in biochemistry there in 1997.

But college officials said Friday that Hasan graduated with honors in biochemistry in 1995 and there was no record of him serving in any ROTC program.

He previously had attended Barstow Community College in Barstow, Calif., and Virginia Western Community College in Roanoke, Va., according to Virginia Tech records.

So to sum up, the Army paid his college tuition, he graduated twice with the same degree, after either seven or nine years which included community college in at least two states, and he did and didn't join the ROTC.

This mess doesn't reflect very well on the Army, Dave, and I doubt that has anything to do with Congress or the Executive.

9 posted on 11/08/2009 10:20:16 PM PST by browardchad ("Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own fact." - Daniel P Moynihan)
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To: browardchad
“This mess doesn't reflect very well on the Army, Dave, and I doubt that has anything to do with Congress or the Executive.”

The hell it doesn't!

That’s it, attack the Army.

This pc crap came straight from the top.

In effect we were told to put up and shut up.

Muslim Troops Highlight Nation's Diversity.
http://www.defenselink.mil/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=42671

http://www.defenselink.mil/speeches/speech.aspx?speechid=322

10 posted on 11/08/2009 10:46:21 PM PST by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: DaveTesla

I’m painfully aware of the PC crap, and where it comes from — but I’m talking about the screwed-up records for Hasan.


11 posted on 11/08/2009 10:50:06 PM PST by browardchad ("Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own fact." - Daniel P Moynihan)
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To: browardchad
"I’m painfully aware of the PC crap, and where it comes
from — but I’m talking about the screwed-up records for
Hasan"

Who do you think maintains those records?
Unionized civilians that Clinton put into place.
Who do you think screws up all our procurement?
Unionized civilians that Clinton put into place.

Shall I go on?
Don't get me started here.
You know nothing about what todays Army puts up with.
Now the left wants to blame us?
They created this mess.

By the way where were the FBI?
They knew Hasan was a problem 6 months ago.
Probably buried under the same pc crap.

12 posted on 11/08/2009 11:02:56 PM PST by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: Cindy; Velveeta

Have you seen this thread? His messed up and conflicting records? Crazy. He’s like another 0bama.


13 posted on 11/08/2009 11:09:50 PM PST by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: DaveTesla
By the way where were the FBI? They knew Hasan was a problem 6 months ago. Probably buried under the same pc crap.

If the Army's not responsible for this guy after 11 years, why is the FBI responsible? He's only been on their radar for six months, and I doubt they can go stepping on Army toes with impunity.

14 posted on 11/08/2009 11:13:20 PM PST by browardchad ("Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own fact." - Daniel P Moynihan)
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To: browardchad
The ARMY could do nothing because Hasan had to do something in violation of regulations first.

What are you saying Hasan did before the event on 11 November?

Wined?

Sorry but that wont get you court marshalled.

Can you imagine the $h!t storm if Hasan was called into the C.O.’s office and told to stay away from that mosque.

Did the FBI report Hasan’s activities to Centcom?
Did the CID have an open investigation on him?

No and No.

15 posted on 11/08/2009 11:27:32 PM PST by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: DaveTesla
Did the FBI report Hasan’s activities to Centcom? Did the CID have an open investigation on him? No and No.

And you're absolutely sure of both those statements, how?

16 posted on 11/08/2009 11:31:17 PM PST by browardchad ("Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own fact." - Daniel P Moynihan)
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To: browardchad
“And you're absolutely sure of both those statements, how?”

And your sure it was the some how Army's fault, How?

If the FBI had reported Hasan making Terroristic Threats (if that is / was the case) to the DODCID Hasan would have been confined under UCMJ pending an investigation. That is SOP.

In a better world Hasan would have been dishonorably discharged when he started making his disgruntled statements.
Thanks to PC directives that is no more.

I bet the base C.O.'s are getting this directive right about now:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2381856/posts

Just don't come up dirty on a piss test.
Now I know some good solders that could have
been rehabilitated and put to pasture with a DOD.
Rant about Allah, that is PC protected.

17 posted on 11/08/2009 11:54:04 PM PST by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: DaveTesla
"been rehabilitated and put to pasture with a DOD."
been rehabilitated but were put to pasture with a DOD
18 posted on 11/08/2009 11:56:16 PM PST by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: DaveTesla
Pakistani Immigrant Leads Air Department Aboard Carrier

In case you are skeptical, this character witness ought to help you out:

""He is a great guy and a natural leader. He doesn't care about nationality or religion. He lets your work speak for you," said Lt.j.g. Rami Islam, Engineering department's auxiliary division officer.

19 posted on 11/09/2009 12:24:20 AM PST by Ezekiel (The Obama-nation began with the Inauguration of Desolation.)
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To: DaveTesla
The ARMY could do nothing because Hasan had to do something in violation of regulations first. What are you saying Hasan did before the event on 11 November?

I concede your point that Hasan didn't, technically, violate regulations. Other than that, this guy bothers me more than  Sgt. Asan Akbar, who fragged his commanding officers in Kuwait; and more than John Mohammed, who sits on death row for the beltway sniper murders, just to name a few.

Why?

Because this guy was allowed to continue, after he got his MD in 2001, to achieve the status of Army psychiatrist. And what exactly does an Army psychiatrist do in time of this particular war? His work consists mainly in counseling soldiers returning from a battlefield in which they've witnessed the horrific results of Islamic extremism -- their buddies' bodies ripped to shreds by IED's; innocent civilians, including children, blown up in the name of religion. Blood and body parts.

And after all that, returning to the states with nightmare scenarios pushing them to the point of despair, they are offered -- the services of a radical muslim counselor?

Sorry, I can't think of anything more sadistic or punishing to the brave men and women who volunteer to fight our enemy. Whether this happened through bureaucratic BS or political correctness really doesn't matter. There were ways to derail him, to give him some job far away from the action; to give him ratings so poor that he'd only be fit for counseling chipmunks. But that didn't happen. He was pushed along like some automaton, without regard to potential damage to our troops.

Sorry, no, I can't forgive on the basis of PC. It was a failure of imagination and empathy by his immediate superiors. Let the lives of 13 souls, and the agony of the wounded and the families affected, be on their heads.

20 posted on 11/09/2009 12:27:52 AM PST by browardchad ("Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own fact." - Daniel P Moynihan)
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To: DaveTesla
And returning to the original subject of your post, here's the latest, from the Islamic leader of Hasan's mosque, who was praised as a moderate voice after 9/11, then fled the country to nest in the heart of the enemy:

Alleged Fort Hood Gunman a Hero, Says Islamic Cleric With Suspected 9/11 Links

21 posted on 11/09/2009 12:50:59 AM PST by browardchad ("Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own fact." - Daniel P Moynihan)
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To: browardchad
"And after all that, returning to the states with nightmare scenarios pushing them to the point of despair, they are offered — the services of a radical muslim counselor?"

That's where you go wrong. The events with Hasan only
became prevalent after the current election. The situation was
handled according to Army Regulations and procedure.

Hasan was reprimanded, given poor reviews and shipped out.

That in it's self was no small feat.
Remember Maj. Hasan was part of Mr. Obama's Transition team.

What do you suggest?
That Hasan should have been Court Marshaled?
Under what UCMJ?
Arrested and sent to RCF?

The commanders did their job.

Your blaming the victim, The Army.

Never mind we have an administration that is emboldening
the terrorists.

Never mind that this sort of thing ( attempted terrorist
attack on us soil) is becoming a weekly event now that the
current administration is dismantling a national security
system that kept us safe for 8 years. After a knife through
the heart of the intelligence community you blame the Army?

Elections have consequences and this is one of them.
Expect more in the future. I will be putting the blame
at the feet of the real instigator, the current
administration. The one that think the real terrorists
are pro-lifers, returning soldiers, vets, Christians,
tea party attendees, those with criticisms of the current
administration.

22 posted on 11/09/2009 1:36:20 AM PST by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: browardchad
Khadeeja Nuur out of Washington D.C. has created a Facebook page in support of the Fort Hood terrorist Malik Hasan.

http://islaminaction08.blogspot.com/2009/11/facebook-page-praying-for-recovery-of.html

I only hope the FBI is all over these creeps.

23 posted on 11/09/2009 1:53:51 AM PST by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: DaveTesla; ~Kim4VRWC's~; GeronL; All; NormsRevenge; Grampa Dave; SierraWasp; SunkenCiv; blam; ...

Excellent post.


24 posted on 11/09/2009 7:08:38 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: DaveTesla

What exactly needs to be stopped? Civil liberties? Based on spuriously gathered intel? That’s just great. Next you’ll have the FBI rounding up every member of the congregation of a church that an abortion doctor murderer went to, or we could start rounding up everyone with bad eyesight the next time a mass murderer with glasses rears his head. Guilt by association isn’t something I remember being listed in the Constitution or in any current laws as a valid reason to arrest someone. This guy was a nut who deserves to never see daylight again, but that’s it. He’s no different than Charles Whitman or Seung-Hui Cho. If you don’t like the way our country works then you are free to leave anytime you wish. Don’t let your fear make you do stupid things, and what you are implying is plain stupid.


25 posted on 11/09/2009 8:06:36 AM PST by Tim Lister
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To: DaveTesla
You're hopeless. This cancer didn't begin with Obama, although the odds of curing it became slim to none with his election.

Try reading, Dave.

From today's NY Daily News:

He was supposed to help her hero son - but all she saw in Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan's eyes was evil.

The mom of a soldier who received psychiatric treatment from the accused Fort Hood gunman said she was frightened of the psychiatrist from the very beginning of her son's stay at Walter Reed Medical Center.

"I looked into his eyes, and he scared me," Cindy Gagnier told the Daily News. "He made some comments to me that made me feel very uncomfortable, and I don't become uncomfortable very easily."

The New York-born mother of four was at her son Christian's bedside constantly after he suffered a traumatic brain injury in 2005 while fighting in Iraq.

The young veteran, who also is dealing with posttraumatic stress disorder, spent 18 months at Walter Reed, where Hasan spent six years on staff.

That Grand Rounds rant that Hasan gave at WR, warning infidels that they will suffer the beheading, burning wrath of Allah? NPR reports that it happened "a couple of years ago."

And that's only two reports among dozens.

That extremist mosque he attended? Since at least 2001. No one noticed?

Try accepting reality, Dave. As despicable as Obama is, this cancer was allowed to grow and metastasize long before he took the stage -- the result is mass murder, and serious damage to public confidence in our military and intel agencies.

26 posted on 11/09/2009 8:24:03 AM PST by browardchad ("Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own fact." - Daniel P Moynihan)
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To: little jeremiah

Hadn’t seen it yet, thanks.


27 posted on 11/09/2009 8:41:47 AM PST by Velveeta
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To: browardchad

The real gap is 1988 to 1995 after he graduated High School, I don’t think he was enlisted because he has almost no service ribbons. His official bio pic only show a National Service Ribbon, he should have gotten more than that if he was enlisted for 8 years, an Army Achievement medal at least or some kind of overseas service ribbon. Also, he has no jump wings or any other kind of qualification badge, you have got to do that stuff if you want to get promoted.

Even the guys running Wiki thinks something is fishy with this timeline. I would say it is poor reporting by so-called Journalists.


28 posted on 11/09/2009 8:49:06 AM PST by ClayinVA ("Those who don't remember history are doomed to repeat it")
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To: ClayinVA
Even the guys running Wiki thinks something is fishy with this timeline. I would say it is poor reporting by so-called Journalists.

I'd normally say the same, except that the Army released his officer record, and it indicates that he graduated Va Tech in 1997. Both VT and the archives of the local paper, the Roanoke Times, indicate he graduated in 1995.

And his record indicates ROTC service, whereas VT says there is no record.

Universities aren't slackards at record-keeping, since a graduate's future depends on an accurate record, and I see no reason for them to lie about it.

That brings up the question of why those two years may make a difference. His officer records indicates he earned a basic MD in 2001. The standard U.S. medical school curriculum is four years long.

29 posted on 11/09/2009 9:01:12 AM PST by browardchad ("Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own fact." - Daniel P Moynihan)
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To: browardchad

Well, maybe he was enlisted. Look at this link.

http://www.sbsun.com/news/ci_13732226

Accused Army killer attended Barstow College, records show

The soldier accused of killing 13 people and wounding 30 others at Fort Hood, Texas, on Thursday attended Barstow Community College from spring 1989 to spring 1990, college records show.
Maj. Nidal M. Hasan was a straight-A student and on the dean’s list at the college, said Maureen Stokes, the public information officer at the school.

He took six classes and earned 19 credit hours. His classes - all basic courses - were English, history, sociology, math, political science and biology.

Hasan’s official transcript indicates he was an enlisted man, an E-3, at Fort Irwin at the time but John Wagstaffe, public affairs officer at the Fort, said Army records for Hasan only go back to 1995.

“Our records indicate that he was not at Fort Irwin,” Wagstaffe said, “but we are still checking other possibilities.”

Stokes said the college records show that Hasan attended the classes at the college’s satellite campus on the Fort. She said the records also show he was an undergrad and was undeclared for a major.

Otherwise, Stokes said, “Our records are pretty sterile and generic.”


30 posted on 11/09/2009 9:15:52 AM PST by ClayinVA ("Those who don't remember history are doomed to repeat it")
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To: ClayinVA
Thanks -- that's what I suspected.

Here we go again, though, with the Army record clown-show:

Hasan’s official transcript indicates he was an enlisted man, an E-3, at Fort Irwin at the time but John Wagstaffe, public affairs officer at the Fort, said Army records for Hasan only go back to 1995.

“Our records indicate that he was not at Fort Irwin,” Wagstaffe said, “but we are still checking other possibilities.”

And the college gets its very appropriate snark in:

Otherwise, Stokes said, “Our records are pretty sterile and generic.”

Translation: no need for a PC cover-up on the part of the college. I'm not sure we can say the same for the Army at this point.

31 posted on 11/09/2009 9:43:47 AM PST by browardchad ("Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own fact." - Daniel P Moynihan)
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To: Tim Lister

Just signed up to make that one and only troll post?

Why not use your real screen name?


32 posted on 11/09/2009 5:50:13 PM PST by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: DaveTesla

Bookmarked for archives


33 posted on 11/09/2009 5:53:21 PM PST by Freedom2specul8 (I am Jim Thompson............................Please pray for our troops....)
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To: browardchad
“NPR reports that it happened “a couple of years ago.”

Ahhh.
There is a source we can trust, NYT Wash Post, NPR.
Now those folks never twisted the truth or lied.

To them the U.S. Military has aways been the enemy.
I see you go right along with them and their Marxist rags.

Show me who all this was to reported to (prior to 6/11).
When were the complaints filed?

34 posted on 11/09/2009 6:06:45 PM PST by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: browardchad

Like they don’t have his enlisted records if he went green to gold. Cover-up in progress.


35 posted on 11/09/2009 7:03:51 PM PST by ClayinVA ("Those who don't remember history are doomed to repeat it")
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