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Get serious, Sarah
Pittsburgh Tribune-Review ^ | 11/8/2009 | Salena Zito

Posted on 11/08/2009 5:45:51 AM PST by Saije

Much will be said in coming weeks about Sarah Palin and the Republican Party -- especially after the Democrat "upset" in New York's 23rd Congressional District and the "over-the-top" Republican gubernatorial wins in Virginia and New Jersey.

First of all, Palin will not leave the Republican Party.

"As independent-minded and anti-establishment as she is," says Villanova University political science professor Lara Brown, "she seems to understand well one of my favorite quotes from political scientist John Aldrich from Duke University: 'The standard line that anyone can grow up to be president may be true, but it is true only if one grows up to be a major party nominee.'"

Palin is positioning herself to become the Republican presidential nominee, and getting involved in NY-23 was merely the first step. Her book and her "Oprah" interview later this month are her next major steps.***

If Palin wants to be considered a credible presidential hopeful for 2012, she needs to do more than release a book and go on "Oprah." She needs to weigh in on serious issues -- such as energy, the size of government, federal taxing and spending -- and to support candidates in 2010 who promote those issues.

Palin has lots of opportunities to do that, Brown says, adding: "But if she wants to win, then she has to move away from her 'rebellious, risk-taking conservative' image and adopt more of a 'substantive, discerning reformer' image."

(Excerpt) Read more at pittsburghlive.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012; advice; palin; president; sarahpalin; teaparties; teaparty; teapartyreform; zito
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I'm not so sure she plans to run for President in 2012. And she seems fairly serious already.
1 posted on 11/08/2009 5:45:52 AM PST by Saije
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To: Saije

An unknown hack trying to be famous by attacking someone who has already done 10 times what the hack will ever do.


2 posted on 11/08/2009 5:47:57 AM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (I'd rather be a teabagger than an ankle-grabber.)
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To: Saije
Palin is positioning herself to become the Republican presidential nominee, and getting involved in NY-23 was merely the first step. Her book and her "Oprah" interview later this month are her next major steps.*

Palin will need to leave the OP(formerly the GOP) if she has any chance of advancing the conservative cause as a Presidential candidate. Backing a candidate from the Conservative Party over the OP candidate maybe an indication she willing to take that step.
3 posted on 11/08/2009 5:50:59 AM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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To: Saije
"...and adopt more of a 'substantive, discerning reformer' image."

Uh-huh....as defined how, and by whom? The drooling libs? Fuhgedaboutit.

4 posted on 11/08/2009 5:52:11 AM PST by RightOnline
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To: Saije

It is this writer who needs to get serious and get the facts straight. Sarah is doing just fine.


5 posted on 11/08/2009 5:53:57 AM PST by maxter (Give today a chance. Enjoy.)
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To: Saije

Obviously this author was not in Milwaukee Fri night to hear Sarah Palin speak at a Wisconsin Right to Life rally and fundraiser. She’s serious. She’s accomplished. She’s a spellbinding speaker. She can bring a crowd to its feet numerous times. She’s smart, beautiful, warm, a vision in red, and a delight.

She’s also a loyal American who supports the troops, a good wife and mother, a patriot. And she enjoined the crowd “never let anyone tell you to sit down and shut up.” I’m sure that anyone who heard her Fri. Night will ever sit down and shut up again.


6 posted on 11/08/2009 5:55:31 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Saije

From the article “And many believed New Jersey governor-elect Chris Christie would squeak out a win, by about 2 percent; he won by 4 percent.”

Sorry, this race was too close to call right down to the wire. Maybe Christie’s people believed this, maybe many hoped it, but it was just as widely thought/hoped that Corzine would be the one to squeak out a win.

The magnitude of Christie’s decisive win must not be overlooked. Jon Corzine tied himself so tightly to Obama they could have been running a three-legged race.

Everyone was expecting an all nighter, maybe a re-count, perhaps litigation. The most astonishing aspect of it all was that the result was called so quickly, before I had even worked up the nerve to turn on the TV.


7 posted on 11/08/2009 5:55:52 AM PST by jocon307
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To: Saije

The Pittsburgh Tribune-Review is “quietly pro-choice” — words of an editor there more than 10 years ago. The powers that be at the paper aren’t Palin’s type. They realize her power and want to reshape her into the image they’ve selected — just as McCain’s people tried to do. Big mistake, as they should have learned. Stupid libs. Why don’t they just leave the Republican party?


8 posted on 11/08/2009 5:58:27 AM PST by malkee (Actually I'm an ex-smoker--more than three years now -- But I think about it every day.)
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To: Man50D

That’s what the Obama crew is banking on.


9 posted on 11/08/2009 5:59:37 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: Saije
If Palin wants to be considered a credible presidential hopeful for 2012, she needs to do more than release a book and go on "Oprah." She needs to weigh in on serious issues -- such as energy, the size of government, federal taxing and spending -- and to support candidates in 2010 who promote those issues.

1. She has never said she would run for president.

2. She has already done all of the above.

10 posted on 11/08/2009 6:01:22 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: maxter

Where was this writer (and the rest of the marxist media) questioning obamao’s total & complete lack of experience, accomplishments, documentation, communist affiliations, etc? (I know, it’s rhetorical)


11 posted on 11/08/2009 6:02:02 AM PST by newfreep ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." - P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: RightOnline

It is interesting to me that whenever a “pundit” wants attention, they do a piece on Sarah, usually a hatchet job.

She is so famous, and so powerful as a politician, first, it does them no good to attack her, and secondly, they get the attention they want..........

Wait till her book tour......the media’s heads will be exploding because this will be the second coming of the “Fab Four”.....just, this will be the “Fab One.”


12 posted on 11/08/2009 6:04:10 AM PST by RRTJSP...........
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To: Saije
She needs to weigh in on serious issues -- such as energy, the size of government, federal taxing and spending -- and to support candidates in 2010 who promote those issues.

'scusa me padron...but that is exactly what she has been doing ever since she entered politics in Alaska! Idiot.

13 posted on 11/08/2009 6:05:12 AM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannolis. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Saije

No matter how hard they may try these fools can’t figure it out. They really are so out of touch w/us that they can never know us.
They can throw all of this crap at the wall but it won’t stick.
We have finally put our voices together and are singing as one.
Whether Palin runs or not she has made an impact that will not go away.
We now have to keep the pressure on.


14 posted on 11/08/2009 6:06:34 AM PST by certrtwngnut (go to you tube @see screw the state of n.j.)
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To: anniegetyourgun
That’s what the Obama crew is banking on.

They are banking on her remaining in a party that has moved far enough to the socialist left with its big tent mentality in order to expand the voter base that it has essentially merged its ideology with the socialist RATs forming one big socialist Republicrat party. They know OP(formerly the GOP) party leaders will negate any conservative inclinations she may want to espouse.
15 posted on 11/08/2009 6:06:37 AM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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To: Saije
If Palin wants to be considered a credible presidential hopeful for 2012, she needs to do more than release a book and go on "Oprah." She needs to weigh in on serious issues -- such as energy, the size of government, federal taxing and spending

Uh....HELLLLLLOOOOOO....I think that weighing in on these issues has gotten her to where she is today.
16 posted on 11/08/2009 6:10:26 AM PST by no dems (ACORN: A Corrupt Organization Representing Non-whites)
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe

Right, a nobody columnist in Pittsburgh knows better how to manage Sarah’s career than Sarah, who is already followed by tens of thousands... Sheesh...


17 posted on 11/08/2009 6:10:49 AM PST by ez ("Abashed the Devil stood and felt how awful goodness is..." - Milton)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

What do you think are her chances, as of right now, of getting the GOP nod in 2012?


18 posted on 11/08/2009 6:11:17 AM PST by no dems (ACORN: A Corrupt Organization Representing Non-whites)
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To: Man50D

Yes, Man50D - you will get your way. We all know there will be a splintered conservative effort in the next presidential election cycle. And, we all know what happens in that scenario. Hence, I can easily predict a 2nd term for the usurper in office now.


19 posted on 11/08/2009 6:12:07 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: RightOnline
..."her 'rebellious, risk-taking conservative' image"...

As opposed to to a cautious progressive liberal traditionalist, maybe? /s

20 posted on 11/08/2009 6:12:30 AM PST by VRWCtaz (America has Zero to be ashamed of.)
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To: Saije

I don’t see this as a hostile article at all. It is a reasoned critique, rather than a rabid knock, and acknowledges her capacity and potential which few of the pundits do. The ones who really come off badly - if one reads carefully - are the GOP apparatchiks and dead souls.

This is the only thing I disagree with:
“But if she wants to win, then she has to move away from her ‘rebellious, risk-taking conservative’ image and adopt more of a ‘substantive, discerning reformer’ image.”

I don’t see any need to abandon the one to achieve the latter. Hell, give it to them with both barrels, Sarah!


21 posted on 11/08/2009 6:13:01 AM PST by Psalm 144 (What did you think NEW WORLD ORDER meant? The Constitution? States' rights? Individual liberty?)
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To: Saije

She only needs to weigh in on one issue - get the government shrinking back toward its Constitutional limits.


22 posted on 11/08/2009 6:19:54 AM PST by Daveinyork
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To: anniegetyourgun
We all know there will be a splintered conservative effort in the next presidential election cycle. And, we all know what happens in that scenario. Hence, I can easily predict a 2nd term for the usurper in office now.

Conservatives are a growing force that OP members refuse to accept and do their very best to thwart as evident by NY-23. Hoffman would have won if the RNCC didn't invest time and money against him and then cast 5,000 votes for Scozzafava after she dropped out of the race! The only splintering occuring is being done by the OP.
23 posted on 11/08/2009 6:20:22 AM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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To: Saije
If Palin wants to be considered a credible presidential hopeful for 2012, she needs to do more than release a book and go on "Oprah."

Worked for this clown...


24 posted on 11/08/2009 6:20:49 AM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: Man50D

And how much media exposure did Bob Barr get. Only if the media favors an individual does the media provide coverage. Often any coverage so provided is done in a fashion to mock the the third party or independent candidate.


25 posted on 11/08/2009 6:22:23 AM PST by monocle
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To: SolidWood; euram; Al B.; jla

Ping!


26 posted on 11/08/2009 6:23:17 AM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: Man50D

“Palin will need to leave the OP(formerly the GOP) if she has any chance of advancing the conservative cause as a Presidential candidate.”

I disagree. I think she needs to take control of the existing party instead of trying to form a new one.


27 posted on 11/08/2009 6:29:13 AM PST by webstersII
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To: monocle
Only if the media favors an individual does the media provide coverage.

The premise of your point is a party should be based on how much one party can kiss up to the media? Are you serious?

Often any coverage so provided is done in a fashion to mock the the third party or independent candidate.

You're assuming we have a two party system. The OP(formerly the GOP) has incrementally accepted socialist principles over the years to essentially merge with the socialist RATs. We have only a one party system disguised as two distinct parties. You need to look past party names. Another party will be the second party.
28 posted on 11/08/2009 6:34:18 AM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe

I think this unknown hack has made some good points.


29 posted on 11/08/2009 6:36:33 AM PST by Dudoight
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To: webstersII
I disagree. I think she needs to take control of the existing party instead of trying to form a new one.

Why didn't anyone take control of the party years ago when there was far less socialism in the party?


30 posted on 11/08/2009 6:41:50 AM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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To: Saije
This seems pretty serious. The author is an idiot.
31 posted on 11/08/2009 6:48:26 AM PST by rabidralph (http://www.thealaskafundtrust.com/ http://www.sarahpac.com)
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To: Man50D

The Congress is organized as a two party affair, state also so organized and the election laws assume a two party system. The fact that both parties may hold the same views makes no difference in the eyes of those enforcing the system. Our system is like two or more warlords seeking the perks of office regardless of the beliefs. Under such an environment, it is difficult or impossible to overturn the system because also those who control the meaqns to affect a change have a vested interest to maintain, in not strengthen, the existing system.


32 posted on 11/08/2009 6:48:31 AM PST by monocle
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To: webstersII

“Palin will need to leave the OP(formerly the GOP) if she has any chance of advancing the conservative cause as a Presidential candidate.”

I disagree. I think she needs to take control of the existing party instead of trying to form a new one.


A few weeks ago I would not have agreed with you, but there are some twitches of life on the Republican side now.

My problem is that everytime Steele opens his gob I want to just throw up my hands and move on.


33 posted on 11/08/2009 6:48:34 AM PST by Psalm 144 (What did you think NEW WORLD ORDER meant? The Constitution? States' rights? Individual liberty?)
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To: Man50D

Why didn’t anyone take control of the party years ago when there was far less socialism in the party?


We did. But the Reagan Revolution was highjacked and murdered by a certain New England, liberal family.


34 posted on 11/08/2009 6:52:27 AM PST by Psalm 144 (What did you think NEW WORLD ORDER meant? The Constitution? States' rights? Individual liberty?)
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To: no dems

I have no idea because politics moves fast. But, if the crowd Friday night is any indication, she’d have every vote in the room. And they weren’t all Republicans.


35 posted on 11/08/2009 6:53:07 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: malkee
“The Pittsburgh Tribune-Review is “quietly pro-choice” “

Interesting fact considering the Pittsburgh area is 53% Roman Catholic.
Out of curiosity, where do other denominations stand on the “pro life” or “pro choice” platform?

36 posted on 11/08/2009 6:55:14 AM PST by bitterohiogunclinger (America held hostage - day 163)
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe

not a hack


37 posted on 11/08/2009 7:01:30 AM PST by Salena Zito (http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/blogs/fortyfourthestate/)
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To: RightOnline
Uh-huh....as defined how, and by whom? - Amazing how libs always want to offer "helpful" advice to conservatives.
38 posted on 11/08/2009 7:02:25 AM PST by Free_at_last_-2001 (A country can survive its fools, but it cannot survive treason from within.)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner
'Sarah needs to do this' 'Sarah should do that' 'Sarah will never further herself unless she *acquires gravitas *starts a third party *revamps her image *etc etc etc'

Meanwhile, back in the real world, the lady not very long ago began a journey at a local PTA meeting and is now the odds on favorite to win the GOP Presidential nomination.

Yes, she needs more unsolicited advice from self-proclaimed experts!

39 posted on 11/08/2009 7:03:25 AM PST by jla
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Zing!


40 posted on 11/08/2009 7:04:31 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: Salena Zito

Someone who tries to advise another who is doing just fine is acting like a hack.

Palin knows what she is doing. She’s no fool. And she doesn’t need bloggers and ‘journalists’ and armchair scribes to tell her what to do.


41 posted on 11/08/2009 7:04:33 AM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (I'd rather be a teabagger than an ankle-grabber.)
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To: webstersII
I disagree. I think she needs to take control of the existing party instead of trying to form a new one. - of course there is the stratagem of forming ( or the threat of forming) a new party in order to control the OP.
42 posted on 11/08/2009 7:06:25 AM PST by Free_at_last_-2001 (A country can survive its fools, but it cannot survive treason from within.)
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To: Man50D

I know your argument. I also know where it leads. While I am sickened by NY-23 GOP candidate selection, my larger point is seen in the end result of that election. Win goes to Obama/Dems.


43 posted on 11/08/2009 7:07:30 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: Saije

On one point I do agree: going on Oprah isn’t a sign of serious. Might as well do a cameo on Days of Our Lives.


44 posted on 11/08/2009 7:08:56 AM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (LIBERTY)
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To: Saije

I could swear, if my memory serves me correctly, that Salena Zito, the author, is a fellow freeper.

yup: http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/by:salenazito/index?tab=comments;brevity=full;options=no-change


45 posted on 11/08/2009 7:09:36 AM PST by KeatsforFirstDog
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To: All

No Sarah... Do it your way baby... Take your sweet time.


46 posted on 11/08/2009 7:11:10 AM PST by ElPatriota (The SILENCE of the Catholic Church on the war (Actually I heard something..).ues, is ** DEAFENING **)
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To: Man50D

“Why didn’t anyone take control of the party years ago when there was far less socialism in the party? “

Because we weren’t marching in the street back then.


47 posted on 11/08/2009 7:13:52 AM PST by webstersII
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To: Psalm 144

“My problem is that everytime Steele opens his gob I want to just throw up my hands and move on.”

Me, too.

Steele is between a rock and a hard place. One side has the old establishment GOP power structure, the other has grass roots. I see no way for this to be resolved without some sort of a power struggle. Hopefully the Sarah Palin fans will win.


48 posted on 11/08/2009 7:16:46 AM PST by webstersII
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To: Saije
Not too bad as far a critiques go.

Don't really spot that smarmy, elitist, wordy, airhead, group think, snark in this one.

I'm sure Palin will be looking at many different layers of advise. All politicians have advisers.

49 posted on 11/08/2009 7:30:03 AM PST by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......?)
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To: Salena Zito

You made some great points.

This quote from the professor sums it up:
“. . .they need to focus on fiscal issues such as taxing, spending, deficits and debt, and the size of government, issues like freedom, liberty and small government, and not the cultural conservative issues,” such as abortion and gay marriage.”

The GOP has to move away from the social issues and concentrate on fiscal issues if they want to win in the future. The party frontrunner (Palin or whoever it is) needs to let the social issues be handled at the state level. For example, state voters have already rejected Gay Marriage 38 out of 38 times, so most of these social issues don’t need a national standard-bearer.


50 posted on 11/08/2009 7:30:23 AM PST by webstersII
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