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Texas is the new retirement mecca
LA Times ^ | 11/7/2009 | Don Lee

Posted on 11/07/2009 7:14:29 PM PST by Saije

After trying out Pasadena, Atlanta and Miami, Lilian Junco decided this was the place to retire. Being near her son was the first attraction, but soon she was drawn in by the same combination of features that has lured tens of thousands of others from out of state: Gulf Coast living and super-low costs.

With some of the country's lowest prices for housing, gas and food, no state income tax and one of the most resilient economies in the nation, Galveston and other parts of the Lone Star State are emerging as the new Florida.

This week, Florida disclosed population figures that show a decline of 57,000 over the 12 months ended April 1, the first annual drop since the 1940s. Much of the loss has come in parts of southern Florida that long attracted retirees.

Meantime, other Sun Belt states such as Nevada and Arizona have been hit hard by the recession, and expensive California has long seen more people leave than move in, a domestic migration measure that doesn't include foreign immigration or births.

But Texas, which has weathered the current recession better than most parts of the country, is almost booming, in part because an earlier oil industry crash had left the state's banks too shaken to go on the home-mortgage binge that ended up crippling so many other states.

Texas' population, the nation's second largest at about 25 million, is expected to be boosted this year by net inflows of at least 150,000 people from other states, said Karl Eschbach, the state demographer. Seniors are a growing part of that trend, lured by aggressive campaigns from state officials and developers.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: retirement; texas
Texans should watch out for the invasion by liberal Californians, they bring bad ideas with them.
1 posted on 11/07/2009 7:14:30 PM PST by Saije
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To: Saije

How about an ultra-conservative from Pennsylvania?


2 posted on 11/07/2009 7:16:53 PM PST by THX 1138 ("Harry, I have a gift.")
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To: Saije

‘Texas’ and ‘mecca’ should never be used in the same sentence.


3 posted on 11/07/2009 7:17:01 PM PST by AlmaKing
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To: Saije

Honestly, I wish we could close and lock the door,,,,too many and too fast and too many liberals headed this way.


4 posted on 11/07/2009 7:17:46 PM PST by maeng
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To: AlmaKing

You are right. Better, Texas = Heaven


5 posted on 11/07/2009 7:18:59 PM PST by maeng
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To: maeng

Tell me about it. They turned florida blue last election. I hope our net loss this year is blue voters......


6 posted on 11/07/2009 7:20:22 PM PST by wombtotomb
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To: Saije

You know, Texans might right now be kind of sensitive about their state being described as a “mecca”....just sayin’.....


7 posted on 11/07/2009 7:20:28 PM PST by Frank_2001
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To: Frank_2001

Give ‘em all free flights for their ‘Hajj’, then lock the doors.


8 posted on 11/07/2009 7:23:31 PM PST by AlmaKing
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To: Frank_2001

No joke! It offended me. I live in Texas. Mecca and Texas should never be used in the same sentence. But then again, my emotions are pretty raw tonight with the tragic shooting and then this stupid healthcare vote.


9 posted on 11/07/2009 7:23:54 PM PST by NorwegianViking
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To: Saije

When Texas secedes from the Union, I will head there myself!


10 posted on 11/07/2009 7:26:50 PM PST by MamaLucci (It's Mourning In America........)
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To: Saije

Sounds like the place for me.


11 posted on 11/07/2009 7:29:05 PM PST by Marylander (Obama: A Pain ... and ... a Pill.)
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To: MamaLucci
I will head there myself!

Can I bum a ride? ;) Maybe we can create a Free Republic - gated community area. Soon TX will be called - 'Land of the free, home of the brave'.
12 posted on 11/07/2009 7:31:21 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: maeng

You and me both, FRiend.
We don’t need anymore.


13 posted on 11/07/2009 7:32:42 PM PST by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: presently no screen name

Ha! Freeperville, Texas. I like it!


14 posted on 11/07/2009 7:33:16 PM PST by MamaLucci (It's Mourning In America........)
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To: Frank_2001

“You know, Texans might right now be kind of sensitive about their state being described as a “mecca”....just sayin’.....”

I didn’t write the headline but certainly didn’t mean to offend anyone by posting the article. Was interested in the article as a favorable reflection on Texas, especially in comparison to California, which is where it was published.

I suppose I need sensitivity training. It’s so hard these days to know what will offend other people.


15 posted on 11/07/2009 7:33:41 PM PST by Saije
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To: Saije
"But Texas, which has weathered the current recession better than most parts of the country, is almost booming, in part because an earlier oil industry crash had left the state's banks too shaken to go on the home-mortgage binge that ended up crippling so many other states. "

This is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. What retard wrote this article? Texas didn't crash with the real-estate bubble because Texas LAW doesn't allow you to mortgage more than 80% of your value. Idiots. You put 20% down to buy a house or else you buy very expensive mortgage insurance. You don't take an equity line on more than 80% of your value. It's just good fiscal policy. Texas needs wall between us, Mexico, AND THE OTHER 49 if you ask me.
16 posted on 11/07/2009 7:39:19 PM PST by DRey
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To: Saije

You are not responsible for the wording of someone else’s headlines.


17 posted on 11/07/2009 7:39:22 PM PST by Texas56
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To: Saije

Shortly after my father retired, he and mom moved from New Jersey (then AT&T headquarters) to Fredericksburg TX. They found it good to get away from the northeastern liberals (although they lived in Morris County, which is a pocket of red in an otherwise blue state). They wonder how I can stand the loonies here in Minnestoopid.


18 posted on 11/07/2009 7:41:09 PM PST by Fred Hayek (From this point forward the Democratic Party will be referred to as the Communist Party)
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To: Fred Hayek
SHHHH!!!!!

There is a myth that Texas is just a bunch of uneducated rednecks living among the scrub. We'd like to keep it that way.
19 posted on 11/07/2009 7:43:05 PM PST by DRey
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To: Saije
Texas is the new retirement mecca

Oh please, God! No!

20 posted on 11/07/2009 7:45:16 PM PST by Spirochete (Texas is an anagram for Taxes)
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To: DRey

This Texan thinks it’s time to close our borders!


21 posted on 11/07/2009 7:49:44 PM PST by basil (It's time to rid the country of "Gun Free Zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: basil
"This Texan thinks it’s time to close our borders!"

We'll all be voting like Austin if something isn't done. You work hard. Vote against the grain and do what you think is right. You succeed. Then all the f-ups around the country that have ruined their own states think you've stumbled upon the gravy train and want a piece of it. GO AWAY, LOSERS!!!!
22 posted on 11/07/2009 7:55:28 PM PST by DRey
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To: DRey
There is a myth that Texas is just a bunch of uneducated rednecks living among the scrub. We'd like to keep it that way.

Maybe a tourism ad that plays up the rattlesnakes, scorpions and fire ants would be helpful in setting the record straight. ;-)

23 posted on 11/07/2009 8:15:03 PM PST by Charles Martel ("Endeavor to persevere...")
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To: Saije; basil; DRey; AnnaZ; ExTexasRedhead; Spirochete; Texas56; NorwegianViking; maeng
This was some far left rally in Austin, Texas recently:

Caption these beauties at the (anti-Bush) 'Million Musician March' (warning: language in one pic)

PLEASE tell me Austin, TX hasn't gone this far to the left, and that these moonbats are just outliers.

We may have to escape Connecticut for Texas someday soon... if Texas falls to the moonbats, there will be NO escape.

24 posted on 11/07/2009 8:20:50 PM PST by nutmeg (Madame Speaker: TEAR UP THIS BILL!!!)
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To: Saije

..I was born in Midland—so I got a birthright


25 posted on 11/07/2009 8:31:10 PM PST by WalterSkinner ( In Memory of My Father--WWII Vet and Patriot 1926-2007)
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To: MamaLucci
Freeperville, Texas.

And tonight it was born! Now it's waiting for us to fill the land.
26 posted on 11/07/2009 8:32:41 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: Saije

Texas is a great place to work, but there are better choices for retirement because of the tax structure. (High real estate and sales taxes.)


27 posted on 11/07/2009 8:37:43 PM PST by PAR35
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To: nutmeg
"PLEASE tell me Austin, TX hasn't gone this far to the left, and that these moonbats are just outliers."

Sadly, no. Austin has fallen. No question about it. "Keep Austin Weird" is no longer just a slogan, it's a lifestyle. The good news: We have them surrounded, and the power in this state is rural. Rural matters here, no matter how much they build up our cities in the media. Our governor was born in Paint Creek, Texas, population 48. Eight miles over is another town, population 2,000, and 8 miles from there, another, and on and on.

You know, "Come and Take It" was the taunting Republic of Texas flag at Gonzalez. I think the slogan should be revisted.
28 posted on 11/07/2009 9:17:31 PM PST by DRey
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To: PAR35
"Texas is a great place to work, but there are better choices for retirement because of the tax structure. (High real estate and sales taxes.)"

Compared to what? A $400,000 house in Texas would cost 1.5 mil in CA. On their prop. tax scale, that house would cost $21,000/year in prop. taxes. In Texas the same house would be $7,900 property taxes/year. Sales taxes are only what, 1% more? 2%? Certainly not $12,100/year more. People like to tout the numbers you just quoted, but they're Democrat BS numbers. They just don't add up when factored with real numbers like cost of living, cost of housing.
29 posted on 11/07/2009 9:23:04 PM PST by DRey
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To: PAR35

Texas is a great place to work, but there are better choices for retirement because of the tax structure. (High real estate and sales taxes.)<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

Yes, I have a friend who looked into Austin as a possible retirement area, and she was really turned off by the property tax structure. Something to do with the taxed amount rising dramatically over time after purchase of property, not sure of the details.

She was surprised at how it was explained to her, since many people do assume it’s a tax (uh oh, here comes the “m” word) mecca.


30 posted on 11/07/2009 9:37:38 PM PST by Mjaye
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To: MamaLucci
When Texas secedes from the Union, I will head there myself!

We are planning on moving there from TOO LIBERAL ILLINOIS, within the next 2 years!!!

When they secede, they'll get plenty of conservatives heading their way!!!

31 posted on 11/08/2009 12:56:14 AM PST by blondee123 (Don't blame me, I voted for Sarah !)
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To: DRey

Gee, that tax on a $400,000 house is cheaper than Illinois, I’m in!!!


32 posted on 11/08/2009 12:59:44 AM PST by blondee123 (Don't blame me, I voted for Sarah !)
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To: Mjaye

Real estate taxes primarily go for education (small taxes for city and county government; some special taxing districts); sales tax pays for most everything else. Offsetting that are no personal income tax, and low car registration fees. Since retirees generally have lower income and nicer houses, the deck can be stacked against them.


33 posted on 11/08/2009 2:32:11 AM PST by PAR35
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To: Saije

It isn’t just Texans who need to watch out for liberal Californians fleeing to Texas,
Same thing is happening in Idaho, Montana, Arizona, Nevada and others.
Normally conservative places now have far too many expat californians.


34 posted on 11/08/2009 3:20:58 AM PST by Joe Boucher
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To: nutmeg

Austin has always been full of ignorant geeky people. Many of them go around wearing “Keep Austin Weird” t-shirts. It always astounds me that people have no more pride in their city than to want to be known as weird.

With the big University of Texas in the heart of Austin, I suppose that there’s no way that the town could be conservative, although I’ve never figured out why our universities are peopled by so many strange people.

The good news is that the surrounding suburbs are by and large sensible and most often vote conservative. I’ve lived in a close suburb for 10 years now, and have figured out how to avoid going into Austin most of the time.


35 posted on 11/08/2009 4:21:56 AM PST by basil (It's time to rid the country of "Gun Free Zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: Saije

Texas a job mecca as well.

BTW, isn’t there another term we can use other than “mecca?”

I don’t know about the rest of you, but I’m sick to death of ANYTHING muslim.


36 posted on 11/08/2009 3:08:26 PM PST by Redbob (W.W.J.B.D.: "What Would Jack Bauer Do?")
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To: Redbob

Oasis....works.


37 posted on 11/08/2009 3:12:23 PM PST by Osage Orange (Obama's a self-made man who worships his own creator...............)
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To: PAR35

Real estate taxes primarily go for education (small taxes for city and county government; some special taxing districts); sales tax pays for most everything else. <<<<<<<<<<<<

Thanks, seems like a nice place to live (except in the areas of high humidity, don’t think I’d ever adapt to that).


38 posted on 11/08/2009 3:15:41 PM PST by Mjaye
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To: nutmeg

Austin does NOT represent the rest of Texas!!! They are the lone anti-Gob liberals, and yes they are that BAD. Don’t go there at all if I can help it.


39 posted on 11/08/2009 4:41:42 PM PST by maeng
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To: nutmeg

Austin does NOT represent the rest of Texas!!! They are the lone anti-God liberals, and yes they are that BAD. Don’t go there at all if I can help it.


40 posted on 11/08/2009 4:41:58 PM PST by maeng
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To: Mjaye

Humidity is only a problem near the coastal areas. Most of Texas ranges from semi-arid to desert.


41 posted on 11/08/2009 8:18:49 PM PST by PAR35
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To: PAR35

Humidity is only a problem near the coastal areas. Most of Texas ranges from semi-arid to desert.<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

Glad to hear that, as I won’t soon forget Houston in July one year, first ever visit, my then-little kids just about fainted getting off the plane at the airport!


42 posted on 11/09/2009 10:17:14 PM PST by Mjaye
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To: Saije
Sun Belt states such as Nevada and Arizona have been hit hard by the recession, and expensive California has long seen more people leave than move in

How can California be expensive if it was destroyed, and imploded with the illegal taking over?...lol

In any event, since the greedy developers totally over built parts of California, to the point where it choked off 12 lanes of freeways with people, I welcome anyone that wants to leave, to do so quickly. You honestly have my best wishes!

See ya!

43 posted on 11/09/2009 10:30:29 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: Charles Martel

After all the rain, we have Fire Ant mounds that need blinking lights to direct air traffic away. I’m just saying...you don’t want to come here. Unless you think Reagan should have been a little more right wing. Then, ok, we’ll clear out a few mounds for you. The rest of ya, stay home. For our southern brothers, No tienes mas casas!


44 posted on 11/09/2009 10:37:53 PM PST by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: WalterSkinner

Muleshoe here.


45 posted on 11/09/2009 10:43:20 PM PST by hobson
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