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Live News conference re FT Hood...( Its a "CRIME")
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Posted on 11/07/2009 5:25:39 PM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie

Its a "criminal investigation"...just another shooting, Move along now, nothing here..... don't jump to conclusions!


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: forthoodarchive; fthood; nidalmalikhasan; shooter; terrorism

1 posted on 11/07/2009 5:25:40 PM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

the POLICE investigation conference was just a few minutes.

NO TERRORISM...and Homeland Security is not involved in the investigation....Hmmmmm.


2 posted on 11/07/2009 5:26:44 PM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (Pray for Israel! And Georgia ! And the Iranian people! and Honduras!)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

they treated the first Trade center bombing as a “crime” too.....and look what that got us...


3 posted on 11/07/2009 5:28:03 PM PST by cherry
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

So the fact Hasan was in same mosque in Virginia that two of 911 hijackers attended with a firebrand Imam back in 2001 had no effect with Hasan at all. Kind of like Obama’s 20 plus years under Jeremiah Wright where he heard nothing or saw nothing.
Well we had a 911 because Democrats want to treat terror as a criminal activity.
So ...consequences will be a hard lesson to learn and it looks like it will take more one man jihad patterns to arise before somebody says...he Houston, we have a problem!


4 posted on 11/07/2009 5:29:17 PM PST by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: cherry

I don’t know if I posted this right...I got so shook up...and kept waiting for him to say whether HS was involved...NOPE.

Called it a “Mass Shooting”.


5 posted on 11/07/2009 5:29:38 PM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (Pray for Israel! And Georgia ! And the Iranian people! and Honduras!)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

And the kid who blew himself up outside the OSU football game a few years back was “just a suicide”.


6 posted on 11/07/2009 5:29:39 PM PST by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

Sixty years ago these guys would have called the Pearl Harbor attack “a coincidental series of explosions of unknown origin, conveniently photographed by our Japanese allies on a Good-will visit”.


7 posted on 11/07/2009 5:29:41 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

The Fort Hood war is lost we will begin pulling our troops out from there before thanksgiving


8 posted on 11/07/2009 5:31:12 PM PST by al baby (Hi Mom sarc ;))
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To: DuncanWaring

I could laugh at your post, but tragically you are right.

anybody else see the conference or did I just imagine this? It was like a local shooting report.


9 posted on 11/07/2009 5:31:31 PM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (Pray for Israel! And Georgia ! And the Iranian people! and Honduras!)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

They will hide the fact that this was terrorism. They don’t want a backlash against muslims. That is why they are doing this.


10 posted on 11/07/2009 5:32:58 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

I don’t need a PC Pres__ent or anyone else to tell me not to jump to conclusions.

It was a TERRORIST ACT...period.


11 posted on 11/07/2009 5:34:39 PM PST by azishot
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Its more than that....They don’t believe, or want a War on Terror.

We are sooooo f.....d!


12 posted on 11/07/2009 5:34:48 PM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (Pray for Israel! And Georgia ! And the Iranian people! and Honduras!)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

this was a terrorist action on our soil

as soon as this happened the FBI said no terrorist action and they did not even know what was going on.

The shooter did this in the name of islam.
He was on the transition team for obama
He attended the same mosque
He argued many times with other soldiers
he said he was muslim first American second
He shouted allah akbhar when shooting
13 are dead
over 30 wounded
he struck terror in the base

and this Govt wants to call this a criminal action.

No bozo and admin you can keep spinning this but the majority know the real deal on this so if the so called media wants to embarass themselves like they just have at that news conference.


13 posted on 11/07/2009 5:36:12 PM PST by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman, end of. -end racism end affirmative action)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

thought the same

Stupid questions and no one asking about his radical views of Islam and do you think that he thought he could not go over there to fight fellow muslims so he would rather attack Americans?

That is the real reason why he did it

remember he said muslim first American second


14 posted on 11/07/2009 5:38:21 PM PST by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman, end of. -end racism end affirmative action)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie
FBI previously informed. They did nothing. .... check
terrorist worked for DHS. Tip-of-iceberg-Alert ... check
terrorist showed signs for YEARS at the Army. Everyone laughed, did nothing ... check
terrorist receives training from same Imam that trained 911 terrorists. ... check
terrorist told everyone what was coming. They did nothing but cheer... check
terrorist obtained penetrating bullets. Flight school, sir? ... check
terrorist determined locus of maximum humanity. Handy access to Everything. ... check
terrorist gave away Koran and said goodbye. Party at whorehouse. ... check
terrorist used Army connections to enter locus. Everyone took pictures. ... check
terrorist screamed "Allah is great" ... check
terrorist murders at least 14 in cold blood ... check

Coverup begins.



"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned repeat it."
George Santayana

15 posted on 11/07/2009 5:40:55 PM PST by Diogenesis ("Those who go below the surface do so at their peril" - Oscar Wilde)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

Never did this idiot say it was a terrorist attack - never even mention that the murderer was a muzzie....I’m disgusted!


16 posted on 11/07/2009 5:41:53 PM PST by BamaDi (I'm glad that I'm free, though I wish I was a dog and Obama was a tree!)
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To: DuncanWaring

***Sixty years ago these guys would have called the Pearl Harbor attack “a coincidental series of explosions of unknown origin, conveniently photographed by our Japanese allies on a Good-will visit”.***

Back around 1968-69 MAD Magazine or CRACKED magazine did a spoof on how the movies about Pearl Harbor and were becoming more PC.

The final frame of these cartoons showed FDR bowing to Emperor Hirohito and apologizing for our ships blowing up and damaging the hearing of the Japanese pilots flying overhead.


17 posted on 11/07/2009 5:42:38 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (The sword does not kill. It is a tool in the killer's hand.---Lucius Annaeus Seneca)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie
My prediction: We will NEVER learn the truth about what is developed during this investigation, unless, there is a “whistleblower ” among them who won't allow the facts to be buried, but believe me, anything which shines the light on the facts that his actions were motivated by his devotion to Islam won't see the light of day

Why else within moments of the attack, before ANYONE knew anything about what was going on, did the Federal Bureau of Incompetence make the inane statement that this had NOTHING to do with terrorism.

Lets face it, the PC fix is in!

18 posted on 11/07/2009 5:47:29 PM PST by Conservative Vermont Vet ((One of ONLY 37 Conservatives in the People's Republic of Vermont. Socialists and Progressives All))
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To: Diogenesis

One of the most articulate and excellant posts on this subject. It deserves to be on other threads as well!

We will have more “lone” shooters left and right in this country.


19 posted on 11/07/2009 5:58:47 PM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (Pray for Israel! And Georgia ! And the Iranian people! and Honduras!)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

There’s no mystery about it. The White House surely ordered them to spin away from any connection to Islam.


20 posted on 11/07/2009 5:59:37 PM PST by VR-21 (Down to the stones, where old ghosts play.)
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet; Chieftain

yes, not only are they circling the wagons.

But there will be no Jack Bauer to question this Jhihadist in his hospital room.
He will mysteriously just “not make it”...Obozo doesn’t want him talking to ANYONE!

No trial, no TV interviews, no books, .....

so, just move along...NOTHING HERE ( Obozo will make sure of that or perhaps RAhm will make Hassan a hospital visit carrying a bouquet of flowers....cue the Godfather music.).


21 posted on 11/07/2009 6:03:48 PM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (Pray for Israel! And Georgia ! And the Iranian people! and Honduras!)
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To: VR-21

There are plenty of soldier accounts of him yelling allah akhbar....

But this officially ends the war on terror for me...if we can’t fight it here,,,we cant do anything but waste American lives overseas.

Bring our freakin boys and girls home, you worthless government.

There is only one way to fight this ...and that is we do it ourselves.

We makes lists and we take action.


22 posted on 11/07/2009 6:06:37 PM PST by rbmillerjr (It's us against them...the Establishment RINOs vs rank and file...Sarah Palin or bust)
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To: rbmillerjr

We can not fight this WOT if we aren’t fighting a WOT.

Bring them home if you won’t let them fight.

But , trust me, with Rush, Beck, Hannity, Boortz and the Freeper and Breitbart, they can’t keep the lid on forever.

Hey, Rahm..this ain’t chicago!


23 posted on 11/07/2009 6:08:59 PM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (Pray for Israel! And Georgia ! And the Iranian people! and Honduras!)
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To: cripplecreek

It was at OU in Norman — you mean the ‘lone suicide bomber’ with the Pakistani roommate that only blew up the upper part of his body but the bench he was sitting on was blown into small pieces. There is another little detail like it took Norman PD bomb disposal 18 trips to the bomb disposal area because if they took it all at once it would blow up a city block. When they blew it all up it shook my home and rattle my windows five miles away. Did I mention they found a map to NYC on the right side of his vehicle and that a good friend worked in the stadium.

Just like that little backpack that blew up shook everything on campus.

My confidence in what the authorities have to say was severely shaken and have not been the same since. The dumbest comment about the OU bomber was about three weeks after he was blown up, they came out and said they had found a suicide note on his hard drive like they hadn’t looked at the computer in three weeks.

We also have a terrorist FBI office now in Norman and the white collar crime unit no longer exists here but he was only a “lone suicide bomber” who had spent three months in Pakistan. We had cameras installed at all gates by a federal grant the week after the bombing but there was nothing to it all.

What I just read on this thread is the same BS they fed all of us here in OK.

Security is also tighter at the OU games this year then it has been since the year of the bombing.


24 posted on 11/07/2009 6:16:55 PM PST by PhiKapMom (Mary Fallin - OK Gov/Coburn - Senate 2010 ! Take Back the House/Senate! Stop ZERO!)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie; All

Some great comments from others. among them -
164. Cowboy said:

One of the most disgusting things about the analysis of what happened in Ft. Hood is what they are doing to Kileen, Texas and the people who live and work in and around Ft. Hood. I’ve seen a stream of stories about how horrible Kileen and Ft. Hood are and how beset with depression, with suicide and all this gloom and dsyfunction.

This is an affront to the good people of Kileen and Ft. Hood. I have known many decent, salt of the earth folks from those environs whom I count myself lucky and better off to have encountered. There are men down there in Ft. Hood whose shoes I’m not fit to wear, they are far better men than I and than most.

The media’s game is obvious. What they are doing is laying the groundwork for a potential narrative. If there is any way to pin this thing on some perceived psychological dsyfunction in the American military and its men, women, family, and everybody who lives among them, then they are going to pin that tail on the donkey. If any opportunity comes along to highlight some dysfunction and attribute it to our brave fighting men and women as some kind of horrible “cost too high”, then they will take it. If they can politicize any problem in military life to further their narratives, no matter what the truth is or whom it may slight or what negative societal costs it may bear, they will politicize it.

Again, it, in a word, is disgusting.

Josh said:

“I’m just suggesting that there “must have been” standard and additional event-driven investigations already done – and sat on. Of course, those investigations may now be lost so they can claim oversight rather than misjudgement.”
http://pajamasmedia.com/richardfernandez/2009/11/06/physician-heal-thyself/#comments


25 posted on 11/07/2009 6:30:05 PM PST by anglian
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To: anglian

If we can’t protect our military on home soil, how can we expect them to protect us. What a terrible disservice to our servicemen and women to put them in a position of fearing who has their backs in their own units.


26 posted on 11/07/2009 6:42:38 PM PST by varina davis (Life is not a dress rehearsal)
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To: anglian

Good post.

the PTSD narrative fits right in with Obozo pulling out of afghanistan.

This is VN Redo from the Left.

The only hope may be that Hollywood gets hit by Jhidahis and we won’t have to listen to those idiots.


27 posted on 11/07/2009 8:16:06 PM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (Pray for Israel! And Georgia ! And the Iranian people! and Honduras!)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie
NO TERRORISM...and Homeland Security is not involved in the investigation.

But the US Army is the lead agency. They'll 'git 'er done, or expose why not.

28 posted on 11/07/2009 10:27:02 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie
But there will be no Jack Bauer to question this Jhihadist in his hospital room.

That hospital room in on Fort Sam Houston, San Antonio Texas. I'm sure there are MPs outside the door, and the questioning will be done by Army CID agents. The other agencies can just fork off, or be exposed in their obfuscation.

29 posted on 11/07/2009 10:30:10 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

Recall where the bodies were taken for autopsie. Not Dallas, or Austin, or Houston. Dover AFB. The military will be doing the autoposies. The Army CID will be the lead agency in the investigation. The soldiers are pissed.


30 posted on 11/07/2009 10:37:22 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: El Gato

thanks for the posts. You have reassured me that becuase the soldiers are angry and the Army has been embarrassed, this might get done right.


31 posted on 11/08/2009 4:15:27 AM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (Pray for Israel! And Georgia ! And the Iranian people! and Honduras!)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

“We are sooooo f.....d!”

Yep. I am now really understanding what Mark Levin has been saying all along- that this revolution has been 80 years in the making, and that it will take 80 years to un-do it. That means we probably won’t get to see it get turned around...


32 posted on 11/08/2009 4:18:44 AM PST by Canedawg (FUBO)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

Tick, Tick Tick, Tick.......The little ticking sound is the 2nd revolution doomsday clock rapidly approaching high noon.


33 posted on 11/08/2009 4:23:23 AM PST by liberateUS
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To: Canedawg

Love that Levin...it will be hard to change when they have govt schools.


34 posted on 11/08/2009 4:29:23 AM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (Ok, joke's over....Bring back Bush !)
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To: Canedawg
that this revolution has been 80 years in the making, and that it will take 80 years to un-do it.

Even though Levin is a genius and I am not I must say that it always takes less time to destroy something than to create it.

Even though it took 80 years, and especially the last 40 years, to make this revolution we can undo it in much less time with the right politicians in office.

The Tea Party Patriots are on the right track and New Jersey and Virginia show that a lot of people are beginning to join us.

35 posted on 11/08/2009 4:32:49 AM PST by paulycy (Predatory Pricing = Public Option = Unethical Competition.)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

The schools are already run by the govt., and the state-run media is dispatched to issue propaganda messages to the sheeple.

The scumbags in D.C. are betting that as conservatives from our generation pass on, the population will become that much more Marxist-oriented. And one way they will insure our demise is to deny appropriate health care.


36 posted on 11/08/2009 4:34:40 AM PST by Canedawg (FUBO)
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To: paulycy

The conservative movement has definitely been energized due to the fact that we see our liberties threatened by the assholes in D.C.

But what I think Levin referred to was the infiltration by the socialists/”statists” into our institutions- the schools, the media, and the “arts” as well as in the government.


37 posted on 11/08/2009 4:38:10 AM PST by Canedawg (FUBO)
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To: Canedawg
But what I think Levin referred to was the infiltration by the socialists/”statists” into our institutions- the schools, the media, and the “arts” as well as in the government.

Good point. On that level it *will* take a generation or two to re-educate the demographically much different populace that the color-blind Constitutional principles work for everybody. Time alone will help some but we need to mount a multi-generational effort to re-teach the Constitution since it's not happening in the schools.

Just goes to show ya, Levin is a genius and some of us ain't!

38 posted on 11/08/2009 4:42:04 AM PST by paulycy (Predatory Pricing = Public Option = Unethical Competition.)
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