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Muslims at Fort Hood voice outrage (More excusing the terrorist)
MSNBC ^ | 11/7/2009 | Michael Moss

Posted on 11/07/2009 2:59:00 PM PST by tobyhill

Leaders of the vibrant Muslim community here expressed outrage on Friday at the shooting rampage being laid to one of their members, Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, who had become a regular attendee of prayers at the local mosque.

But some of the men who had befriended Major Hasan at the mosque said the military should examine the policies that might have caused him to snap.

“Ultimately it was Brother Nidal’s doing, but the command should be held accountable,” Mr. Benjamin said. “G.I.’s are like any equipment in the Army. When it breaks, those who were in charge of keeping it fit should be held responsible for it.”

“When a white guy shoots up a post office, they call that going postal,” said Victor Benjamin II, 30, a former member of the Army. “But when a Muslim does it, they call it jihad.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: allahuakbar; cair; forthood; fthood; hasan; immigration; islam; jihadinameica; multiculturalism; nidalmalikhasan; pcshooter; terrorist
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1 posted on 11/07/2009 2:59:04 PM PST by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill

2 posted on 11/07/2009 3:00:47 PM PST by Fresh Wind ("Prosperity is just around the corner." VP Charles Curtis, 1932)
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To: tobyhill

Ultimately it was his doing, BUT ......

But WHAT?


3 posted on 11/07/2009 3:00:55 PM PST by bergmeid
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To: tobyhill

barf


4 posted on 11/07/2009 3:00:58 PM PST by BAW
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To: tobyhill
"But...."

Just shut up.

5 posted on 11/07/2009 3:01:05 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny (ALSO SPRACH ZEROTHUSTRA)
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To: tobyhill

WE don’t call it jihad, they do.


6 posted on 11/07/2009 3:01:14 PM PST by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: tobyhill

We have to throw out the political wimps we have in DC and put in place those with iron wills who will close down the borders, fight terrorism, and shut down the gimps in our country from making law.


7 posted on 11/07/2009 3:01:50 PM PST by Porterville ( I have come here to chew bubble gum and kick ass, and I'm all out of bubble gum)
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To: tobyhill
this is so ridiculous it has to be intentionally inflammatory. Either emanuel is wetting himself with glee at the finding (or creating, and at least, the stoking) of another crisis, and/or the media smells ratings-pumping blood. This is the second story I've seen today focusing on inflammatory "muslim reactions."

If these devils (the media) are trying to make the nation explode, this is exactly the right way to do it.

8 posted on 11/07/2009 3:02:22 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (the obama doctrine: "let's not rush to any conclusions...")
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To: Republic of Texas

Maybe if they just get out of the service and if they go to a country where their religion is more accepted, they would not have to put up with this crap.


9 posted on 11/07/2009 3:03:22 PM PST by Bad Jack Bauer (Fat and Bald? I was BORN fat and bald, thank you very much!)
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To: tobyhill

Early on I read an account of a speech he gave at some psychiatric seminar that was heavy on Islam. I can’t find it now, does anyone have a link?


10 posted on 11/07/2009 3:04:02 PM PST by marron
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To: tobyhill
Leaders of the vibrant Muslim community

"Vibrant"?

More like "Excrement".

The writer needs a foot in the arse.

11 posted on 11/07/2009 3:04:09 PM PST by SIDENET ("If that's your best, your best won't do." -Dee Snider)
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To: bergmeid

But nothing .... Muslims at Fort Hood ... should get out of Dodge.


13 posted on 11/07/2009 3:04:26 PM PST by bboop (Tar and feathers -- good back then, good now)
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To: tobyhill
NO!!! There is no excuse for the murders! ESPECIALLY not his religion. It was an act of terrorism, as horrible as the thought may be.
14 posted on 11/07/2009 3:05:07 PM PST by madison10
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To: tobyhill
“When a white guy shoots up a post office, they call that going postal,” said Victor Benjamin II, 30, a former member of the Army. “But when a Muslim does it, they call it jihad.

Gee.....
Ya think?
Captain Obvious

(BTW, muzzie. jihad is your word for it, genius)

15 posted on 11/07/2009 3:05:21 PM PST by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: tobyhill

‘ALLAHU AKBAR’


16 posted on 11/07/2009 3:05:32 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper ("horrific outburst of violence" = USofKKK made him do it!)
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To: tobyhill

First salvo in the “Free Nidal” campaign.


17 posted on 11/07/2009 3:05:35 PM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (LIBERTY)
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To: the invisib1e hand

If it bleeds, it leads.
This is their wet dream coming true.


18 posted on 11/07/2009 3:05:40 PM PST by MestaMachine (One if by land, 2 if by sea, 3 if by Air Force 1, 4 if by Thread.)
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To: MestaMachine

i don’t think people appreciate just how righteously indignant mr. and mrs. america have become. the right event could put things into motions.


19 posted on 11/07/2009 3:08:01 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (the obama doctrine: "let's not rush to any conclusions...")
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To: the invisib1e hand

motion.


20 posted on 11/07/2009 3:08:24 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (the obama doctrine: "let's not rush to any conclusions...")
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To: Fresh Wind

21 posted on 11/07/2009 3:08:48 PM PST by jimbo123
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To: tobyhill
"Ultimately it was Brother Nidal’s doing, but..."

This statement is "obama-think"...or "union-think"...not one glimmer of personal responsibility can these people take.

It's often said, but can't be said too often...democrats are children, and spoiled children, at that. They think adolescent, they act adolescent...and for the spoiled thing...NOTHING ever seems to be their fault.

We'd had the "kids" in charge in this country too long...time to take them too the woodshed.

The man pulled the trigger, I don't care if he is a martian...he still did the shooting and is totally responsible.

I'll bet we would not have heard one peep out of this "cleric" if the shooter had been Christian.
22 posted on 11/07/2009 3:08:49 PM PST by FrankR (To Congress: You cram it down our throats in '09, We'll shove it up your ass in '10!)
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To: tobyhill
Many of these knew of the upcoming murders BEFORE THE FACT.
Or course, all of them are protected from up on high.
23 posted on 11/07/2009 3:09:10 PM PST by Diogenesis ("Those who go below the surface do so at their peril" - Oscar Wilde)
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To: tobyhill

To the mooselimbs at the mosque...pure BS or maybe pig poo would be more appropriate.


24 posted on 11/07/2009 3:09:58 PM PST by pointsal
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To: tobyhill

“Ultimately it was Brother Nidal’s doing, but the command should be held accountable...”

This group sounds like a bunch of liberals.


25 posted on 11/07/2009 3:11:54 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: tobyhill

Oh Brother! Obama probably agrees with them.


26 posted on 11/07/2009 3:11:56 PM PST by Paperdoll (Duncan L. Hunter, where are you?)
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To: Fresh Wind

“If they really think we’re the devil — then let’s send them to hell.”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PkzeX0_uTM


27 posted on 11/07/2009 3:12:12 PM PST by BenLurkin
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To: tobyhill

Sorry brothers, don’t buy it.


28 posted on 11/07/2009 3:13:50 PM PST by machogirl (First they came for my tagline.)
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To: tobyhill
Leaders of the vibrant Muslim community here...should be rounded up and treated as suspects.

Let them express their "outrage" to some detectives under the bright spotlight...and then to the judge.

Can you say..."contempt of court"?

29 posted on 11/07/2009 3:13:51 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (RATs, nothing more than bald haired hippies.)
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To: tobyhill
Leaders of the vibrant traitorous, terrorist-loving, un-American Muslim community here expressed outrage on Friday at the shooting rampage being laid to one of their members...

There. I fixed it.

So, when are we going to get a clue and kick these bastards out of our country before they destroy us from within?

30 posted on 11/07/2009 3:15:37 PM PST by Gritty (Islamism is the new Nazi-Fascism. With Nazi-Fascism, no compromise is possible. - Oriana Fallaci)
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To: tobyhill

What a pile of horse crap. They need to leave my country.


31 posted on 11/07/2009 3:19:18 PM PST by rbosque (10 year Freeper!)
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To: Diogenesis

“...all of them are protected from up on high.”

That is the true problem we find ourselves facing. A President who is Muslim and favors Muslims. No, I do not believe him when he claims to be a dedicated Christian. What nonsense! He is a known liar and deceiver. There should be no doubt at this point that he lies about his religion (taqiya).

There were hours between the shooting and the first news briefing. Homeland Security, the DoD and the FBI knew for SIX MONTHS that Major Hasan was an ambivalant Muslim (to say the least!) who should no longer have been on the active duty roster. Someone higher up had to have ordered “hands off Major Hasan”. Who is in charge of cabinet-level Department Secretaries? President Barack Hussein Obama II.

This act of terror is every bit his responsibility as that of the man who perpetrated it at Fort Hood.


32 posted on 11/07/2009 3:21:01 PM PST by SatinDoll (NO Foreign Nationals as our President!!)
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To: tobyhill
“Ultimately it was Brother Nidal’s doing, but the command should be held accountable.”

Haven't those Muslims heard of Islamism?

Apparently neither have many in the state controlled American media (SCAM).

I expect that few "news" articles say anything about Islamism.

It is American Muslims and SCAM who stereotype Muslims by ignoring Islamism.

.. then again, maybe they are afraid of being killed if they criticize Islamists.

33 posted on 11/07/2009 3:21:06 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: Fresh Wind

34 posted on 11/07/2009 3:22:08 PM PST by Ronbo1948
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To: jimbo123

Please don’t show what they do to girls.


35 posted on 11/07/2009 3:23:53 PM PST by loungitude (The truth hurts.)
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To: tobyhill

Guess we’re all going to have to get used to this type of thing.

It’s the left’s idea of security. And they’re in charge. :)


36 posted on 11/07/2009 3:24:22 PM PST by Tzimisce (No thanks. We have enough government already. - The Tick)
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To: tobyhill

“When a white guy shoots up a post office, they call that going postal,” said Victor Benjamin II, 30, a former member of the Army. “But when a Muslim does it, they call it jihad.

Maybe that is because none of those guys shouted Allahu Akbar when they began “shooting up a post office”?


37 posted on 11/07/2009 3:25:00 PM PST by jospehm20
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To: tobyhill

>But some of the men who had befriended Major Hasan at the mosque said the military should examine the policies that might have caused him to snap.

Snap? You slimy pig breeding, goat roping mulla sucking waste
of human flesh want to see snap? Keep trying to destroy America
with your petulant garbage jihad and the last snap you hear will be your necks.


38 posted on 11/07/2009 3:25:05 PM PST by soycd
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To: Porterville

I wish that would happen. But I fear we’re headed the way of Western Europe.


39 posted on 11/07/2009 3:25:15 PM PST by cydcharisse
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To: the invisib1e hand; Cindy; JustPiper; Velveeta; MamaDearest; little jeremiah
>>>> "this is so ridiculous it has to be intentionally inflammatory. Either emanuel is wetting himself with glee at the finding (or creating, and at least, the stoking) of another crisis, and/or the media smells ratings-pumping blood. This is the second story I've seen today focusing on inflammatory "muslim reactions." If these devils (the media) are trying to make the nation explode, this is exactly the right way to do it. <<<<

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Unbelievable article -- Dr. Hasan's COMMAND should be held accountable for his terror attack on U.S. soldiers?? Huh??

40 posted on 11/07/2009 3:25:15 PM PST by hennie pennie
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To: tobyhill; Travis McGee

((((PINGING)))) travis macgee, your definition of “SJS” is required.


41 posted on 11/07/2009 3:25:38 PM PST by Chgogal (American Mugabe, get your arse out of my bank, my car, my doctor's office & my elec. utility.)
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To: All
Obama admitting he is a Muslim.

http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=tCAffMSWSzY#t=28

Cache it before it's too late.

42 posted on 11/07/2009 3:25:41 PM PST by tobyhill (The Communist has arrived)
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To: soycd
Now, don't hold back -- tell us what you really think!!
43 posted on 11/07/2009 3:26:42 PM PST by hennie pennie
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To: tobyhill

ISLAM 101

What though the field be lost? All is not lost; the unconquerable Will, And study of revenge, immortal hate, And courage never to submit or yield: And what is else not to be overcome?


44 posted on 11/07/2009 3:29:26 PM PST by Ronbo1948
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To: tobyhill
“When a white guy shoots up a post office, they call that going postal,” said Victor Benjamin II, 30, a former member of the Army. “But when a Muslim does it, they call it jihad.

Yes! Especially when they shout Allah akbar -- G-d is great -- while murdering us kaffirs.

45 posted on 11/07/2009 3:29:54 PM PST by Stepan12 (Palin & Bolton in 2012)
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To: hennie pennie

I kind of agree, but not for his reasons. The Command should have recognised a viper in their midst and got rid of the muslim long before this happened. Instead they made him a Major and placed him with returning heroes.


46 posted on 11/07/2009 3:30:26 PM PST by Venturer
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To: tobyhill

Bovine Scat!
The warning signs were there, with Hasan’s “Death to America” rants. Yet the emasculated military command was too scared and PC indoctrinated to do anything about it. Clearly there is a section in UCMJ that should have been used to strip him of rank and send him to the brig for a few years - much further than Article 15.
Yet how much you wanna bet that Fort Hood will now have to endure untold amounts of “sensitivity training” to accomodate those officers and enlisted (who have no place in the armed services) who choose to spew “Death to America” rants, then eventually acting on such rants. And CIC Zero would appoint a czar to oversee such re-education. Presto, a purge of the military! Those who don’t comply either don’t re-enlist, or get discharged due to “attitude problems”. And the jihadis who remain and are accommodated by the system take care of the rest. Uncle Joe would be so proud.


47 posted on 11/07/2009 3:30:41 PM PST by Fred Hayek (From this point forward the Democratic Party will be referred to as the Communist Party)
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To: Fred Hayek
He was a part of Obama’s Muslim Outreach Program. He even advised Obama on Homeland Security.
48 posted on 11/07/2009 3:35:11 PM PST by tobyhill (The Communist has arrived)
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To: the invisib1e hand
 
Eh. I wonder if these are some of the same "vibrant" muslims I run into time from time in Walmart. They usually stay to themselves together in groups mumbling among themselves and if any of the guys do look up and around at you there's a brief deliberate challenging stare before looking off somewhere else. The old ones on the electric shopping carts are a menace - they expect you to just leap out of the way. I was sitting on a bench in the store one evening while waiting for someone else when some garbed-up old woman came buzzing by at warp speed. I had my right leg propped up on my left knee and the basket on the cart caught the toe of my boot and it went tunka-tunka-tunka across the basket tines like a stick across a picket fence - the old bat never slowed down, said sorry or kiss my a$$, just kept going like absolutely nothing ever happened. Scuffed the very end of the sole that was protruding out, otherwise no damage. They earn their s####y reputation honestly, every single day.
 
 

49 posted on 11/07/2009 3:35:45 PM PST by lapsus calami (What's that stink? Code Pink ! ! And their buddy Murtha, too!)
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To: Republic of Texas

I call it a religious war.
MOst Americans and Westerners just don’t know or understand we are in one.


50 posted on 11/07/2009 3:38:22 PM PST by Joe Boucher
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