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Fort Hood shooting: Texas army killer linked to September 11 terrorists
UK Telegraph ^ | 11/07/09 | Philip Sherwell & Alex Spillius

Posted on 11/07/2009 2:06:02 PM PST by the Real fifi

Hasan, the sole suspect in the massacre of 13 fellow US soldiers in Texas, attended the controversial Dar al-Hijrah mosque in Great Falls, Virginia, in 2001 at the same time as two of the September 11 terrorists, The Sunday Telegraph has learnt. His mother's funeral was held there in May that year.

The preacher at the time was Anwar al-Awlaki, an American-born Yemeni scholar who was banned from addressing a meeting in London by video link in August because he is accused of supporting attacks on British troops and backing terrorist organisations.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 911; 911hijackers; alqaeda; democratlies; democrats; fbi; forthood; fthood; islam; jihadinamerica; liars; lies; nidalmalikhasan; obama; obamalies; terrorism
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So much for post traumatic stress disorder and the other nnsense our media is peddling
1 posted on 11/07/2009 2:06:02 PM PST by the Real fifi
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To: the Real fifi

ping


2 posted on 11/07/2009 2:06:30 PM PST by the Real fifi
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To: the Real fifi

Not to brag, but I called this as mosque-related the day it happened.


3 posted on 11/07/2009 2:07:46 PM PST by bustinchops (Teddy ("The Hiccup") Kennedy - the original water-boarder)
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To: the Real fifi
Al Queda must be shaking their heads at our stupidity.
4 posted on 11/07/2009 2:08:53 PM PST by ryan71 (Smells like a revolution)
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To: the Real fifi
And just think.

He was part of 0bama's transition team.

Doesn't that make you feel all warm and fuzzy?

Read this book by former Palestinian terrorist, Walid Shoebat.

God's War on Terror

Walid Shoebat's website ...

5 posted on 11/07/2009 2:09:57 PM PST by Westbrook (Having more children does not divide your love, it multiplies it.)
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To: the Real fifi

Why do I have to read about this in the BRITISH press?

Maybe the question is rhetorical...


6 posted on 11/07/2009 2:10:58 PM PST by SargeK
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To: the Real fifi

Let’s see the media spin their way out of this one.


7 posted on 11/07/2009 2:11:57 PM PST by kjo
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To: ryan71
Al Queda must be shaking their heads at our stupidity

Yes, but shaking them up and down, not sideways.

8 posted on 11/07/2009 2:12:58 PM PST by BigLittle
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To: ryan71
Al Queda must be shaking their heads at our stupidity

Yes, but shaking them up and down, not sideways.

9 posted on 11/07/2009 2:13:05 PM PST by BigLittle
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To: All

IIRC, the last message from Usama and/or his henchman said to take initiative as individuals and attack people of the uSA. (Something like that)


10 posted on 11/07/2009 2:13:29 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Westbrook

I don’t think that’s true —I think he attended meeting of the team though. On the other hand he was a member of the homeland security HSPI team.


11 posted on 11/07/2009 2:14:26 PM PST by the Real fifi
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To: the Real fifi

find a pic of mohammed atta and put it side by side with malik nissan something. the same dead eyes, the same shaved body, this is terrorism.


12 posted on 11/07/2009 2:15:25 PM PST by fortunate sun (Newt who?)
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To: the Real fifi

Nothing to see here, move along /s

Remember, we shouldn’t be jumping to conclusions - our PINO said so.


13 posted on 11/07/2009 2:16:28 PM PST by Grumpybutt (Washington - the men and women of our GREAT MILITARY didn't volunteer to be political puppets!!!)
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To: All

Here we go.

The question is how normal is mainstream Islam?

How radical is mainstream Islam?


14 posted on 11/07/2009 2:16:50 PM PST by rbmillerjr (It's us against them...the Establishment RINOs vs rank and file...Sarah Palin or bust)
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To: the Real fifi

Let’s not jump to conclusions LOL.


15 posted on 11/07/2009 2:19:19 PM PST by boomop1
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To: SargeK
Why do I have to read about this in the BRITISH press?

Because the U.S. media is on the side of the jihadists.

16 posted on 11/07/2009 2:24:01 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (A trade: Conservative Anglicans for Liberal Catholics and a heretic to be named later.)
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To: the Real fifi

What’s a link to the info about the shooter’s being on BHO’s transition team? I read it somewhere today, but don’t know where. Duh.


17 posted on 11/07/2009 2:24:29 PM PST by ync1994
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To: ync1994

you can google Hasan Obama transition team. I did it yesterday and found several sources.


18 posted on 11/07/2009 2:26:59 PM PST by kcat
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To: the Real fifi
Not to worry. The three branches of the United States Government are right on top of it.


19 posted on 11/07/2009 2:28:10 PM PST by VR-21 (Down to the stones, where old ghosts play.)
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To: the Real fifi
"Major Nidal Malik Hasan worshipped at a mosque led by a radical imam said to be a "spiritual adviser" to three of the hijackers who attacked America on Sept 11, 2001."
20 posted on 11/07/2009 2:28:26 PM PST by BenLurkin
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To: the Real fifi

Amazing thing is real news is reported outside our country because PRAVDA refuses to tell the American people the truth.


21 posted on 11/07/2009 2:29:11 PM PST by Typical_Whitey (I will not be silenced so I guess I will see you in the gulag.)
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To: bustinchops

I think we all knew what it was shortly after it happened.


22 posted on 11/07/2009 2:30:57 PM PST by vladimir998
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To: BenLurkin

Obama doesn’t care because he worshipped at a church led by a radical preacher and associated with domestic terrorists that had blown up the Pentagon and Police stations.

The Left and Radical Islam have many things in common.


23 posted on 11/07/2009 2:32:14 PM PST by Typical_Whitey (I will not be silenced so I guess I will see you in the gulag.)
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To: the Real fifi

You wrote:

“So much for post traumatic stress disorder and the other nnsense our media is peddling”

Yeah, but doesn’t really tick you off that (once again!) the UK press is way ahead of ours?

It disgusts me.


24 posted on 11/07/2009 2:33:47 PM PST by vladimir998
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To: the Real fifi

Dar al-Hijrah mosque in Great Falls, Virginia ... Virginia has a welcome mat out for these killers, doesn’t it?


25 posted on 11/07/2009 2:33:56 PM PST by EverOnward
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To: kjo
Let’s see the media spin their way out of this one.

They do not have to spin what they do not report.

26 posted on 11/07/2009 2:35:29 PM PST by TaxPayer2000 (The United States shall guarantee to every state in this union a republican form of government,)
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To: ync1994

Here it is. This one is from the Canada press. Seems like the Canadians and Brittish are willing to do the reporting the US media is not. Our MSM is still going on about PTSD in a guy who didn’t serve in combat. Unfreakin believable.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2380896/posts


27 posted on 11/07/2009 2:39:42 PM PST by jersey117
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To: the Real fifi
Add to that the bullsh!t lies coming out of the FBI and White House that this is "not a terrorist incident."

LIES, LIES and MORE LIES.

Just sick of the horsesh!t.

28 posted on 11/07/2009 2:42:31 PM PST by GI Joe Fan (GI Joe represents Real American Heroes, not a bunch of globalist drones.)
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To: bustinchops

You and me both.


29 posted on 11/07/2009 2:42:49 PM PST by GI Joe Fan (GI Joe represents Real American Heroes, not a bunch of globalist drones.)
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To: the Real fifi

I don’t think going to a mosque for a funeral during the same months that 9/11 terrorists were passing through constitutes a link.


30 posted on 11/07/2009 2:49:20 PM PST by DBrow (Thank You Al Gore You Saved Earth!)
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To: GI Joe Fan

The first casualty of war is truth.


31 posted on 11/07/2009 2:49:50 PM PST by just me (Children should be educated and instructed in the principles of freedom. (John Adams)
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To: the Real fifi

bttt


32 posted on 11/07/2009 2:51:48 PM PST by The Californian (The door to the room of success swings on the hinges of opposition. Bob Jones, Sr.)
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To: Westbrook

He was NOT a member of Obama’s transition team.

When you google it, you see that all of the reports point back to Hasan’s attendance at a meeting in May 2009. Hasan attended a session of meetings held by the George Washington University Homeland Security Policy Institute (HSPI), in May 2009. He registered for it like any other academic or professional conference and sat in the audience.

Thus he is listed, like all the other attendees, as a “participant.” The organization itself at other times sent letters recommending policies they endorsed to the Presdient. This is known as “lobbying.” It is incredibly common - when you write a letter or call, you also are “lobbying.”

There is absolutely no evidence that Hasan had anything to do with setting or writing the statements or the reports. There is no evidence that he even asked a question at the seminars, which were attended by hundreds of military, terrorism and security professionals.

Hasan attended a large conference on an anti-terrorism and security. The organizers sent a copy of the conference proceedings to the President. There is no evidence at all that he ever read the, much less based policy on them.

This is NOT what being an “advisor” consists of.

And it was in May 2009 - months long *after* the transition had ended in January.

There are a lot of inaccuracies and hyperbole flying around about this terrible occurrence. Let’s not spread them ourselves.


33 posted on 11/07/2009 2:52:00 PM PST by worst-case scenario (Striving to reach the light)
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Fort Hood shooting: Texas army killer linked to September 11 terrorists

Hey! The commander-in-chief said NOT to rush to any conclusions.

34 posted on 11/07/2009 2:53:38 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (the obama doctrine: "let's not rush to any conclusions...")
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To: DBrow

I believe I read the article differently than you do. I read it as saying he ATTENDED the mosque at the same time AND his mother’s funeral was there. I don’t know about you, but generally funeral services are held in places where the deceased and his/her family had a relationship.


35 posted on 11/07/2009 2:54:57 PM PST by the Real fifi
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It wasn’t just a funeral, but he was attending regularly.

“Hasan’s eyes “lit up” when he mentioned his deep respect for al-Awlaki’s teachings, according to a fellow Muslim officer at the Fort Hood base in Texas, the scene of Thursday’s horrific shooting spree. “


36 posted on 11/07/2009 2:56:52 PM PST by Kirkwood
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To: jersey117

“PTSD in a guy who didn’t serve in combat....”

Insane, n’est pas? Maybe they should try to sell: “PTSD by proxy”.


37 posted on 11/07/2009 3:08:45 PM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: the Real fifi

It is interesting to note that while driving through Washington DC today, there were noticeably MORE police than usual with heavier weapons than usual guarding government buildings. The government may be telling us this was a lone ranger, but it’s obvious they don’t believe that themselves.


38 posted on 11/07/2009 3:09:00 PM PST by EverOnward
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To: rbmillerjr

Didn’t you hear Diane Sawyer? She wondered aloud (maybe quoting someone) “What if his last name was Smith?”

PC will kill us all unless we reject it!


39 posted on 11/07/2009 3:15:12 PM PST by hotshu (Keep the Faith, that will be the only thing 0bama doesn't try to steal from us.)
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To: vladimir998

Terrorist, yes. I was talking about a mosque being his “training grounds.”


40 posted on 11/07/2009 3:18:48 PM PST by bustinchops (Teddy ("The Hiccup") Kennedy - the original water-boarder)
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To: the Real fifi

If that constitutes a link, then perhaps we should detain all the people who heard Anwar al-Awlaki preach.

And I’ve been to funerals where the deceased was not a regular, the family simply hired a nicer, or bigger, or more famous church than the one they normally attended (or even did not have a regular church).

Maybe there is a link but the Telegaph is going to have to try harder.


41 posted on 11/07/2009 3:26:08 PM PST by DBrow (Thank You Al Gore You Saved Earth!)
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To: the Real fifi

I wonder if Able Danger ran across the name Nidal Malik Hasan.


42 posted on 11/07/2009 3:35:54 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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Fellow Muslims in the US armed forces have also been quick to denounce Hasan's actions and insist that they were the product of a lone individual rather than of Islamic teachings.

American Muslims demand that they not be stereotyped Ok but here's the problem.

Haven't those Muslims heard of Islamism?

Apparently neither have many in the state controlled American media (SCAM).

I expect that few "news" articles say anything about Islamism.

It is American Muslims and SCAM who stereotype Muslims by ignoring Islamism.

.. then again, maybe they are all afraid of being killed if they criticize Islamists.

43 posted on 11/07/2009 3:41:02 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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They say—their words—he”worshipped there”..Perhaps you’d like an attendance sheet?


44 posted on 11/07/2009 3:42:48 PM PST by the Real fifi
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To: DBrow

They say—their words—he”worshipped there”..Perhaps you’d like an attendance sheet?


45 posted on 11/07/2009 3:42:52 PM PST by the Real fifi
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But wait...he had a bumper sticker removed from his car!


46 posted on 11/07/2009 3:43:14 PM PST by FTJM
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Actually they say he “prayed there”

“Hasan’s eyes “lit up” when he mentioned his deep respect for al-Awlaki’s teachings, according to a fellow Muslim officer at the Fort Hood base in Texas, the scene of Thursday’s horrific shooting spree.

As investigators look at Hasan’s motives and mindset, his attendance at the mosque could be an important piece of the jigsaw. Al-Awlaki moved to Dar al-Hijrah as imam in January, 2001, from the west coast, and three months later the September 11 hijackers Nawaf al-Hamzi and Hani Hanjour began attending his services. A third hijacker attended his services in California.

Hasan was praying at Dar al-Hijrah at about the same time, and the FBI will now want to investigate whether he met the two terrorists. “


47 posted on 11/07/2009 3:45:31 PM PST by the Real fifi
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To: the Real fifi

They claim he worshiped there in the intro, and later said “Hasan was praying at Dar al-Hijrah at about the same time, and the FBI will now want to investigate whether he met the two terrorists. “

The article also places him at Virginia Tech. Do you suppose that the same pressures that acted on the VT shooter (Cho Seung-Hui) worked on Hasan?

Do you think there is a link between Hasan and Cho Seung-Hui? The article makes some sort of link by including that fact.

The FBI is looking for the equivalent of an attendance sheet. They’ll determine when and how often and on what dates he was there, and when the 911 terrorists were there, and assess the probability of a meeting between Hasan and the 911 crew. If the Telegraph reporter has this confirmatory data, he did not put it into the article. He did speculate at a connection, since Hasan and the 911 guys were in the same building, possibly (but not surely) at the same time.


48 posted on 11/07/2009 3:58:09 PM PST by DBrow (Thank You Al Gore You Saved Earth!)
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To: DBrow

I think the paper’s point and mine is not that Hasan coordinated with the 9/11 hijackers—a possibility as you note=—but whether this vitriolic imam is a dangerous provocateur, encouraging such conduct and /or coordinating these things with others. In other words, it is the nexus with the imam ,not the hijackers, that is the point for the moment.


49 posted on 11/07/2009 4:01:54 PM PST by the Real fifi
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To: the Real fifi

Agreed.


50 posted on 11/07/2009 5:32:22 PM PST by DBrow (Thank You Al Gore You Saved Earth!)
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