One of the surviving victims, Keara Bono. A pretty young girl.
Posted on 11/07/2009 12:43:11 PM PST by T.L.Sink
Thirteen dead and 28 wounded would be a bad day for the U.S. military in Afghanistan and a great victory for the Taliban. Brave soldiers trained to kill America's enemy abroad were killed in the safety and security of home by a man who believes in and supports everything the enemy does. And he's a U.S. Army major. And his superior officers knew about his beliefs but seemed to think this was just a bit of harmless multicultural diversity - as if believing that "the Muslims should stand up and fight against the aggressor" (i.e. his fellow American soldiers) and writing Internet paeans to the "noble" "heroism" of suicide bombers and, indeed, objectively SUPPORTING THE OTHER SIDE in an active war is acceptable in our PC culture. The NY Times' first report never mentioned the words "Muslim" or "Islam." ABC's Martha Raddatz's only observation on his name was that "I wish his name was Smith." Strange reaction! I suppose what she meant is that if his name were Smith, we could all retreat back into the same comforting pre-9/11 illusions while ignoring everything that mattered about the essence of this man. He made approving remarks about about jihadists on U.S. soil. He shouted in Arabic as he conducted his massacre. But don't worry: The FBI spokesman assured us within hours that there was no terrorism angle. But it's a well-known fact that the same pathologies that drive al-Qaida beat within Maj. Hasan also. And that's the problem: America has the best military but no strategy for throttling the ideology that drives the enemy - in Afghanistan or Texas.
(Excerpt) Read more at ocregister.com ...
The big question......What will the Military do with other muslims in their ranks? Do they just ignore them, putting our soldiers at risk, or do they handle them differently?
Good on the O.C. Register for publishing this.
Steyn is one of the great ones
Gun free zones are slaughter zones in waiting.
Insanity that at the very least NCO’s an officers aren’t issued sidearms an civilians an lower ranking troops with CHL’s allowed to carry 24/7 on or off posts an bases.
In more sane times, I would say, “If this doesn’t wake people up and end all of this political correctness bullcrap, I don’t know what will.” But, sadly, these aren’t sane times.
One of the surviving victims, Keara Bono. A pretty young girl.
The Ft. Hood massacre was indeed terrorism, born by a Muslim. Let’s not forget they have invaded our country for the purpose of killing Americans. Regardless of what Obama may say, this was indeed a Muslim terrorist who shot over 40 people. He knew exactly what he was doing, and I’m sure has no remorse.
TO .ELL with CNN, can any one imagine pointing to this young beautiful gal and pulling a trigger? Go ahead you misfits at CNN and just try and excuse COLD BLOODED MURDER!!!!
Well I would hope they have learned to have a lot more armed personnel around these bases for a starter.
I'm getting a bit sick of the "tragedy" thing myself.
It wasn't a tornado or a plane crash. It was deliberate murder.
Let me know when the politicians and the media are done with "trying to understand", since they are still too brainless and delusional to know what "allahu akbar" means.
Not to mention that Hasan was also linked to the 9-11 hijacker-mass murderers and attended the same mosque with them in Northern Virginia. Sat and listened to the wrathful inciteful diatribes of their radical Imam.
But listen to the Muslim-in-Chief: We must not jump to conclusions!
Time to slip up to that place and fill it full of sarin.
“Gun free zones are slaughter zones in waiting.”
Can’t say it often enough.
I am taking my wife down to get her concealed carry permit this week! You can’t go anyplace unarmed any more.
You can’t always depend on a courageous patriot like Kimberly Munley to show up in time, either.
God helps those who help themselves!!!
I like the way you think.
I’m sending this to a bunch of email contacts with the heading......HELLOOO Infidels!
“It was deliberate murder.” And massacre and assassination.
Those soldiers were killed or maimed and injured precisely because of their roles as defenders of US freedoms and upholders of the US Constitution.
The O.C. Register should at least get the numbers correct - 14 dead including the baby and 30 wounded.
That is a real good question. Obama's PC officers will tell them not to jump to conclusions, but most GIs are not PC. I am afraid, however, that PC is so deeply ingrained in American thought, that even a nuclear weapon going off in America will not rid us of it's evil. PC will be the death of us all.
Mark Steyn made a critical point when filling-in for Rush last week:
“You don’t have to be tied into Al Queda to be an Islamic terrorist”
What we should do as a country. Deport them. Every single one of them.
If we can’t have an honest dialog about Islam and its place in Western society, especially in our military, and if we can’t come to grips with the nature of the enemy we are fighting, we have to live and die with the consequences. In WWII the military would not have tolerated a soldier reading and praising Nazi material and proselytizing his fellow soldiers with it. Hitler worship would not have been tolerated. That is the tricky thing about Islam. On the one hand it is as radical, as political and contrary to Western ideals of liberty as Nazism, but on the other it is a religion, and the West would rather live with unspeakable evil than limit freedom of religion, unless that religion is the Christianity that brought high culture with it. The end of this will be more oppression and control by a government that tolerates the enemy among us. Notice how the hype is all about possible “racist” backlashes against Muslims. The response by this government and the media is as demented as the act of terrorist lunacy that set it off. The attacked are portrayed as the attackers, though the cultural retaliation never happens. Look for more hate crime laws to come out of this. It will get spun into a cultural injustice against Islam.
I was thinking “execution” since they had no way to fight back. An illegal execution, so where are all the leftist Geneva Convention advocates now?
Not unlike the Muslim-in-Chief worshipping before the pulpit of the "Reverend" Wright.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find only things evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelogus
There will be the inevitable comparisons to (wrongly) detaining Japanese and others during WWII, and about how we are a “big tent” country that is build on religious tolerance>
But remember, Maj. Hasan is not just a happy-go-lucky peace loving Muslim who worships at the neighborhood mosque and keeps his grass trimmed. We don’t believe in prior restraint, but we do have a responsibility in this country to identify the enemy, and those who hold the same beliefs and aid and abet their cause. That’s the difference here. We don’t want to start rounding people up and putting them in camps, but it’s equally stupid to allow those like Hasan to live and work alongside brave soldiers when he is actively working against them.
Bingo!
Got Mark’s “America Alone” on Tuesday. Have made it through the preface and p 14. Scares the hell out of me, and the thoughts of the future of this country.
From an Angry Infidel!
these aren’t sane times.
...and the evidence is being presented as we speak on the floor of the house of arrogance and insanity. The gloating, highfiving, glee exhibited by the Communist party in complete control of the coming tyranny is unbound.
Perhaps you mean at the fundamental level of self preservation. Above that ineradicable personal level American citizens and GI'S in particular are steeped in PC that is in fact functioning as it was intended to by the unwaveringly evil schemers who put it into place 40 years ago.
The Commander in Chief HIMSELF is an absolute unworthy whose unfitness and hidden past and obvious hatred of the constitution was and remains no impediment for the job.
There remain INDIVIDUALS (and some may be GI’s) who are not PC but America has gone past the point of no return in the matter of this mental disease.
I was in the Air Force from 1967 to 1987. Thinking back, I can see your point. Starting with social actions in the 70s, I can see it was catching hold, but none of us called it PC then. In the 22 years since I retired, I am sure it has gotten much worse. I am, however, still the most non PC person I know. I will certainly agree with you, I think the US is far, far past the point of no return on PC. I think it is so bad, that even a nuclear weapon going off on American soil can not rid us of it.
Good point, but I’m afraid in our PC and multiculturally-obsessed society authorities will be too afraid of being accused of “profiling,” “bias,” “racism,” etc., to properly vet anybody. We’ve just inexcusably seen that happen with Hasan when there were red flags all over the place.
Exactly right. Something has gone terribly wrong when a society can’t even recognize pure evil for what it is - even when it threatens its very own destruction.
Right - and by the way, Steyn has a grest article about Obama warning about not “jumping to conclusions” when an Islamic terrorist is involved; but this is exactly what HE DID HIMSELF when the police were called to investigate that black professor who was thought to be a burglar and they were only responding to calls made by his neighbors! I guess only certain blacks with a racial-political agenda can jump to conclusions!
I heard Mark when he filled in for Rush and he gave one of the best monologues I’ve ever heard about how the liberal, PC, multicultural, blame-America-first lobbies are destroying this country. “Civilizations are destroyed by suicide, not by murder.” - Arnold Toynbee
One thing 0 has demonstrated time and time again is that he is not worthy of serving America in any role. Didn’t he say in one of his books that he would fight for Islam if he had to chose sides, or something to that effect?
Thanks so much for a very good post which, IMHO, shows how informed and thoughtful you are about these matters. The contrast between what was never tolerated in the struggle against Nazism, one of the greatest world evils, and Islamofascism, one of the greatest modern world evils, is very appropriately made. Just one small example of how this historical amnesia is alive and well: I know people too easily and irresponsibly throw around the term “Nazi” to label political opponents. BUT - the only SELF-ADMITTED TRUE NAZI COLLABORATOR is George Soros, a major Democratic fund raiser, Obama-supporter, and sworn enemy of the traditional political values that made America the greatest democratic Rebublic ever. That HAS to tell us something! And he’s not an isolated anti-American by any means - there’s a whole pack of them now in power!
Soros was a teen when he collaborated with the Nazis, and he did it as a way to survive. Soros is slime, but I think it’s way off the mark to suggest his collaboration equaled agreement with the Nazis.
Great point! And we’re not only censoring ourselves but want to censor others as well. That’s the whole purpose of the so-called “Fairness Doctrine” which the Obamacrats will soon pass to kill talk radio by censorship. Because liberals can’t compete in the free arena of ideas via the open, unregulated airwaves — then KILL IT! By the way, they’re also working on the Internet by loading the FCC with radical Leftists!
I agree with that. But let me say in regard to the Japanese internment camps that that was WRONG but UNDERSTANDABLE. It was an act of panic not premeditated policy. As the old saying goes, hindsight is 20/20. An apparently good ally suddenly destroyed the bulk of our naval and air forces at Pearl Harbor in what FDR rightly called a day “that will live in infamy.” And Japan was allied with the Nazis so that act of treachery was magnified in public imagination. We were unprepared, calmly sleeping, and violently awakened. Objectively, of course the internment of immocent Japanese-Americans was wrong. But human nature and the survival instinct are existentially real. In times of war, panic and crisis such terrible things happen. But at least America recognizes that and has made amends to those affected.
What makes it especially despicable that Soros was a collaborator with the Nazis is not the fact that he was a young man but a Hungarian Jew. He SOUGHT OUT the Nazis and PROFITED from the destruction of his own people. I don’t think that Soros even had the capacity to to wonder if “collaboration equaled agreement with the Nazis.” He’s a totally unprincipled sociopath as was clearly shown after the war when he made his billions by selling short, defrauding, and manipulating the currency markets in ways that financially destroyed as many innocent people as his former business partners, the Nazis. I hope Obama appreciates this supporter joining the ranks of Wright, Pfleger, Ayers, and Rezko. They’re all in good company together!
I havn’t read Horowitz’s book but, even if you’re citing him correctly, it makes little difference to me whether Soros voluntrarily joined the Nazis or was “recruited” without resistance. The fact is that he was a collaborator. Soros perhaps could be given some benefit of the doubt had he not ADMITTED to his collaboration. The ultimate historical question of WHY a particular individual decides to collaborate with a genocidal mass murderer becomes irrelevant when he becomes an influential force and factor in American politics. The presence of such a man in our political life should universally be felt with a profound sense of shame and regret.
Soros has said, at some point in the past five or eight years if I remember correctely, that his experience working with the Nazis to confiscate people’s property was the best experience he ever had.
So not only did he work with them—he’s glad he did it.
No, I think the question of why a person decided to collaborate is fairly important, because it speaks to whether the person did so out of agreement with the genocidal regime or for some other reason such as to avoid being killed or interned. I assume Horowitz researched the matter carefully and if he had found that Soros had done so for the former reason, he would have said so. Those were horrible circumstances that sometimes forced people into having to do horrible things, and I don’t think you can not take that into account. On the other hand, I don’t see Soros displaying a whole lot of regret so I’m not sure quite what to think about his reasons.
Can you source a quote for that?
This was from 60 minutes on 12/20/98:
“KROFT: No feeling of guilt?”
“SOROS: No.”
http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/14700
Listen to the following, after minute 74:15, particularly after minute 77:
See also:
http://patriotsandliberty.com/?p=6653
On Jim O’Neill:
“Jim O’Neill proudly served in the U.S. Navy from 1970-1974 in both UDT-21 (Underwater Demolition Team) and SEAL Team Two. A member of MENSA...”
http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/members/14700/Jim%20ONeill
Now I want you to tell me how it is humanly possible, without extreme difficulty, to describe Soros as worth anything more than a pile of goat manure?
Next, I want any democrat to explain what we should do with the democratic party, given the fact that Soros is the democratic party.
Why keep hiding it? Do you democrats despise your own ideology and the reality of your own party that much?
After 9/11 we still have open borders, still give visas to those that hate us, still allow those that swear oaths to such cults as Islam into our military, etc, etc, etc. We as a nation do not take these threats seriously.
Dems don't care about "ideology" they care about power. Their "ideology" is a feint - distraction to their real goals...
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