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Good Nazis
The New Media Journal ^ | Nov 7, 2009 | Tony Rubolotta

Posted on 11/07/2009 12:24:45 PM PST by NewMediaJournal

I don’t claim to be knowledgeable about US Immigration law, but I do know the process, the legal one that is. I met my wife while she was attending a medical convention on Down syndrome in New York. She is from Brasil and was here on a visitor visa. As they say, the rest is history. What I know about the legal immigration process came from personal experience that eventually saw my wife become a naturalized American citizen after nearly nine years of filing forms and jumping through hoops. One form in particular caught my attention.

I don’t recall the number of the form (they all have numbers) but it asked a short series of questions about her past and future intentions. The only question my wife did not understand was the one that asked her about affiliations with the Nazi Party. She didn’t know what the Nazi Party was or why she was being asked this question. I explained who the Nazis were and asked if she were active in any political parties in Brasil, or in Belgium where she had worked for nearly 10 years. When I saw that particular question, I looked over the form to see what other political affiliations were on the undesirable list, but there were none. Why had the Nazi Party been singled out for special consideration and not others?

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: america; islam; muslim; nazi

1 posted on 11/07/2009 12:24:46 PM PST by NewMediaJournal
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To: NewMediaJournal
In the U.S., it's spelled "Brazil."

Regards,

2 posted on 11/07/2009 12:27:46 PM PST by alexander_busek
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To: alexander_busek

...and in Brasil it is spelled Brasil...now, on with the content of the piece...(gesh!)


3 posted on 11/07/2009 12:31:21 PM PST by NewMediaJournal
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To: NewMediaJournal

“Why had the Nazi Party been singled out for special consideration and not others?”

There are people who truly don’t understand why the Nazi party was singled out?
We are doomed to repeat history.


4 posted on 11/07/2009 12:34:13 PM PST by Darksheare (Tar is cheap, and feathers are plentiful.)
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To: NewMediaJournal

The question is probably a hold over from the fleeing Nazis who were trying to avoid war crime trials. Given she was from South America (where a lot of them supposedly fled to), it makes sense that the question was asked.


5 posted on 11/07/2009 12:38:37 PM PST by autumnraine (You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out!)
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To: Darksheare
There are people who truly don’t understand why the Nazi party was singled out? We are doomed to repeat history.

Probably a more appropriate question is why weren't Communist organizations or Anarchist organizations or Islamic Organizations included in the list and this might be the gist of the original posters questions.
6 posted on 11/07/2009 12:38:54 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: NewMediaJournal

I have pretty much the same conclusion as the author. It’s probably because the Nazis didn’t have a friend at immigration after Hitler’s attack on Russia, while the Communists still do.

I would add the question is probably still on the questionnaire because it’s an artifact the bureaucracy never bothered to remove. It wouldn’t surprise me if there were something on there about the Whigs.


7 posted on 11/07/2009 12:40:42 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (Ram "Health Care Reform" down our throats in '09, and we'll ram it up your @ss in '10.)
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To: Darksheare
There are people who truly don’t understand why the Nazi party was singled out?
We are doomed to repeat history.

*sigh* Yeah. We're repeating it right now!

8 posted on 11/07/2009 12:47:24 PM PST by null and void (We are now in day 290 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: SoConPubbie

“Probably a more appropriate question is why weren’t Communist organizations or Anarchist organizations or Islamic Organizations included in the list and this might be the gist of the original posters questions.”

“might be...” Did anyone else actually read the article? If not, why bother commenting about it?


9 posted on 11/07/2009 12:50:40 PM PST by Old Student (We have a name for the people who think indiscriminate killing is fine. They're called "The Bad Guys)
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To: null and void

And then some.


10 posted on 11/07/2009 12:52:09 PM PST by Darksheare (Tar is cheap, and feathers are plentiful.)
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To: NewMediaJournal
The only question my wife did not understand was the one that asked her about affiliations with the Nazi Party.

According to Nanny 'state' Pelosi that is code word for conservatives. But see now when the German socialist accused George W. Bush of being 'nazi-like or Hitler-like' it really is not a big deal any longer to be accused of supposed mindset and have that they call 'gravitas'.

11 posted on 11/07/2009 12:57:08 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: autumnraine
"supposedly"

Well duh! Where did they find Eichmann - New Jersey?

12 posted on 11/07/2009 1:13:18 PM PST by Slump Tester (What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh -Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: NewMediaJournal

The only question my wife did not understand was the one that asked her about affiliations with the Nazi Party.


you even get asked this as a tourist when you want to enter the US. here is my favourite question you have to answer so they can deside if you are a terrorist or tourist ;-)

C) Have you ever been or are you now involved in espionage or sabotage; or in terrorist activities; or genocide; or between 1933 and 1945 were you involved , in any way, in persecutions associated with Nazi Germany or its allies?
YES/NO

http://www.esta-gov.org/en/ESTA-Application.html


13 posted on 11/07/2009 1:19:47 PM PST by darkside321
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To: Darksheare
If you can get past the ugly years, they really were great dancers.


14 posted on 11/07/2009 1:26:48 PM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: NewMediaJournal

I think the time honored answer to unwelcome questions is ...
next question?


15 posted on 11/07/2009 1:32:49 PM PST by nkycincinnatikid
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To: NewMediaJournal

The form you are talking about is form I-485, Application to Register Permanent Residence or adjust Status.

Among other things, it asks:

Have you ever been a member of, or in any way affiliated with the Communist Party or any other totalitarian party?

Were you associated with the Nazi Goverment between March 23, 1933 and May 8, 1945.

Have you ever engaged in genocide, or otherwise ordered, incited, assisted, or otherwise participated in the killing of any person because of race, religion, natioality,ethnic origin, or political opinion.

The communists and the muzzies seem to be covered.


16 posted on 11/07/2009 1:37:34 PM PST by Chief Engineer
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To: NewMediaJournal

She had worked in Belgium for a decade, and had no clue who the Nazi’s were. Can I assume her job wasn’t one that required a high degree of intelligence?


17 posted on 11/07/2009 2:22:57 PM PST by eclecticEel (The Most High rules in the kingdom of men ... and sets over it the basest of men.)
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To: NewMediaJournal

She had worked in Belgium for a decade, and had no clue who the Nazi’s were. Can I assume her job wasn’t one that required a high degree of intelligence?


18 posted on 11/07/2009 2:23:05 PM PST by eclecticEel (The Most High rules in the kingdom of men ... and sets over it the basest of men.)
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To: darkside321

If you are so stupid as to answer YES to this question You are TOO stupid to be allowed to even visit the US temporarily.


19 posted on 11/07/2009 3:02:22 PM PST by SwedeBoy2
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To: SwedeBoy2

so you don´t think that a terrorist would be honest enought to admit that he want to visit the US because he is involved in terror activities? ;-)


20 posted on 11/07/2009 3:20:08 PM PST by darkside321
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To: NewMediaJournal
It ought to have a question about belief in Jihad and Shariah Law. Need to have this question in order to expell Imams and other jihadis infiltrating our country.

Yes, Bush did a good job in the war on terror, but he fell flat on his face in two big areas: One, the nature of our enemies and two, the national security interests in securing our borders.

The fact that 8 years after 9/11, we still don't have this question about Islamo-Fascism and still have a question about German fascism 60+ years after it's defeat tells you what you need to know.

21 posted on 11/07/2009 3:52:35 PM PST by Jabba the Nutt (Are they insane, stupid or just evil?)
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To: eclecticEel
She had worked in Belgium for a decade, and had no clue who the Nazi’s were. Can I assume her job wasn’t one that required a high degree of intelligence?

I ordinarily do not participate or interject comments in threads on articles I wrote that have been posted by the editor of New Media Journal, but I will make exception because of your insinuation.

My wife has PhD is psychology, had her own consulting firm with one of her sisters, and worked as a clinical psychologist treating children with Down syndrome. Beside Portuguese and English, she speaks conversational Spanish, French, Flemish and Italian, and in those languages the acronym for Nazi is not the same as it is in English. She has authored one book in French and had her own television and program in Brasil.

Whether my wife understood the meaning of an acronym in a language she was learning is irrelevant. Your insinuation contributes nothing to the conversation other than to lower my opinion of some participants when discussing the serious issue of what constitutes an undesirable immigrant.

22 posted on 11/07/2009 4:11:46 PM PST by trubolotta
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