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Confirmed : Buy insurance or go to jail
WorldNetDaily ^ | November 06, 2009 | Bob Unruh

Posted on 11/07/2009 6:33:20 AM PST by RobinMasters

A Michigan congressman has released a report from the non-partisan Joint Committee on Taxation confirming that the House Democrats' health-care bill could impose penalties of up to $250,000 in fines and five years in jail for failing to buy the proper insurance coverage.

"This is the ultimate example of the Democrats' command-and-control style of governing – buy what we tell you or go to jail," said U.S. Rep. Dave Camp, R-Mich.

"It is outrageous and it should be stopped immediately," he said today.

The letter of confirmation from the Joint Committee on Taxation was signed by Chief of Staff Thomas Barthold. His analysis confirmed individuals who fail to follow the rules actually could be penalized both with civil and criminal punishments.

"The Code provides for both civil and criminal penalties to ensure complete and accurate reporting of tax liability and to discourage fraudulent attempts to defeat or evade tax," Barthold's letter said. "Civil and criminal penalties are applied separately.

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: jail

1 posted on 11/07/2009 6:33:20 AM PST by RobinMasters
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To: ExTexasRedhead; justiceseeker93; traderrob6; OL Hickory; socialismisinsidious; trlambsr; Altera; ...

Ping.


2 posted on 11/07/2009 6:33:42 AM PST by RobinMasters
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To: RobinMasters

Is there a jail big enough?


3 posted on 11/07/2009 6:35:28 AM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: RobinMasters
Send me to jail which will cost how much per day to food,clothe, house and protect me from tweetie pie vs demanding a fine from me if I don't buy into this scam. Hmmm I'll take door #3 Bill
4 posted on 11/07/2009 6:35:48 AM PST by shadeaud ("If you can't beat them, arrange to have them beaten." -- George Carlin)
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To: RobinMasters

Who is going to enforce it?


5 posted on 11/07/2009 6:36:36 AM PST by Dewey Revoltnow
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To: Dewey Revoltnow

I’m not buying it. And since I quit my job just so I would participate in this disaster, my employer is not buying it. If Obambi want’s me insured, he can pay for it himself.


6 posted on 11/07/2009 6:39:14 AM PST by Bad Jack Bauer (Fat and Bald? I was BORN fat and bald, thank you very much!)
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To: RobinMasters

I can’t believe that would be constitutional. What about folks like the Amish that do not have insurance for religious reasons?


7 posted on 11/07/2009 6:40:37 AM PST by The Great RJ ("The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money." M. Thatcher)
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To: RobinMasters

Nazi Pelosi should have been in jail already instead we have the b*tch as speaker of the house.


8 posted on 11/07/2009 6:43:02 AM PST by hope
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To: The Great RJ

>>What about folks like the Amish that do not have insurance for religious reasons?

If you don’t worship Allah or a tree, the current US government doesn’t care about your religious reasons.


9 posted on 11/07/2009 6:43:59 AM PST by Bryanw92 (Question O-thority!)
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To: Bad Jack Bauer
Sorry BJB, you are naive. BHO's aim is to get the rich (anybody with a job) to pay the health insurance for everybody else (everybody who doesn't work). You can choose which group you want to be in, he doesn't care.
10 posted on 11/07/2009 6:44:41 AM PST by Former Proud Canadian (How do I change my screen name now that we have the most conservative government in the world?)
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To: RobinMasters

How long before no insurance = immediate execution? I mean really . . the kooky ideas being floated around now make my head spin.


11 posted on 11/07/2009 6:45:29 AM PST by BipolarBob (Thailand?)
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To: RobinMasters

And of course “the poor” as defined by a series of politically correct “measurements” controlled by Pelosi, won’t have to by a g-dmn thing.


12 posted on 11/07/2009 6:45:49 AM PST by samtheman
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To: RobinMasters

Hmmm - if Omabacare passes, how long will it be before Congress passes a bill that makes Americans buy a {government-owned} GM car now or go to jail. It would make the car industry go thru the roof, wouldn’t it?


13 posted on 11/07/2009 6:47:09 AM PST by Ex-Democrat Dean
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To: RobinMasters
* Under Section 6662(a), 20 percent of an underpayment attributable to health care tax
* Section 6663, a fraud penalty of 75 percent of the underpayment
* Section 6702, a $5,000 penalty for taking a frivolous position on a tax return
* Section 6651, a delinquency penalty of .5 percent under the underpayment, each month
* Section 7203, a fine of $2,000 or jail up to one year
* Section 7201, a fine of up to $250,000 and imprisonment of up to five years.

I guess that's one way to build up a slush fund.

Every day there's one more Bizarro World headline.

14 posted on 11/07/2009 6:48:33 AM PST by RepublitarianRoger2
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To: RobinMasters

It isn’t the jail, it’s when they seize all your assets in fines and penalties. It’s when your car, your home, your personal assets, everything you own and intended to bequeath to your heirs, is sold at govt auction, and a year or so of hearing your entire family begging you to behave yourself for their sake...that’s when it starts to sting. THEN jail.
You can still refuse, resist, go Galt. It’s the right thing to do.
Just sayin!


15 posted on 11/07/2009 6:48:37 AM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (LIBERTY)
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To: RobinMasters

And once you have a criminal record, forget welfare. They may not want to help you!


16 posted on 11/07/2009 6:50:15 AM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (LIBERTY)
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To: RobinMasters

“Buy insurance or go to jail”

A five word description of the “government option” that took 2,000 pages to say in the house bill.


17 posted on 11/07/2009 6:51:09 AM PST by Mobties
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To: Mobties

If you take it down to a single word, EXTORTION, will suffice.

The Democrats are following that “real change comes from the barrel of a gun” just as their hero Mao once claimed.


18 posted on 11/07/2009 7:00:28 AM PST by R0CK3T
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To: RobinMasters

“A people unwilling to use extreme violent force to preserve or obtain their liberty deserves the tyrants that rule them.”

“When the people fear the government you have tyranny, when the government fears the people you have liberty.”

Thomas Jefferson


19 posted on 11/07/2009 7:01:54 AM PST by stockpirate ("if my thought-dreams could be seen. They'd probably put my head in a guillotine" Dylan)
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To: The Great RJ

I’ve been trying to find out what happens with illegal aliens, those on welfare, the unemployed , etc. - how do they pay? If their premiums are paid by everybody else like now, why are the Democraps saying that medical costs will go down per capita?


20 posted on 11/07/2009 7:03:02 AM PST by Ex-Democrat Dean
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To: Ex-Democrat Dean

Cause the Democrats are lying about the cost.


21 posted on 11/07/2009 7:18:10 AM PST by carton253 (Ask me about Throw Away the Scabbard - a Civil War alternate history.)
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To: RobinMasters

Maybe we’ll finally get that border fence we’ve been wanting.....to keep us in. The Democrats would probably go for it in that case.


22 posted on 11/07/2009 7:37:31 AM PST by Husker24
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To: RobinMasters
Only members of the proletariat will be excluded from this threat.
23 posted on 11/07/2009 7:40:57 AM PST by DEADROCK (Liberty is a bitch that needs to be bedded on a mattress of cadavers.)
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To: RobinMasters

I don’t even have to read the bill to know that anyone who claims a low income isn’t going to have to pay like the rest of us and definitely won’t go to jail.

You and I know that whole swaths of our cities populations will be on a free ride—just like they receive healthcare now.

Virtually every county in the country has provisions for treating the indigent. They don’t have a insurance policy but they are treated anyway.


24 posted on 11/07/2009 7:48:28 AM PST by wildbill (You're just jealous because the Voices talk only to me.)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
“Did you really think we want those laws observed?” said Dr. Ferris. “We want them to be broken. You’d better get it straight that it’s not a bunch of boy scouts you’re up against... We’re after power and we mean it...

There’s no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren’t enough criminals one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What’s there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced or objectively interpreted – and you create a nation of law-breakers – and then you cash in on guilt. Now that’s the system, Mr. Reardon, that’s the game, and once you understand it, you’ll be much easier to deal with.”
Atlas Shrugged - 1957)

25 posted on 11/07/2009 7:53:46 AM PST by Noumenon (Work that AQT - turn ammunition into skill. No tyrant can maintain a 300 yard perimeter forever.)
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To: Noumenon

We’ll have them outnumbered! As long as we don’t help them build the prisons, we’ll be fine. ;)


26 posted on 11/07/2009 8:03:04 AM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (LIBERTY)
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To: Dewey Revoltnow

In the previous version the IRS enforced it by having access to your bank account. You can wake up and find that your account has been emptied. Or they can take it from your wages before you are paid. What it comes down to is that we all need an alternate identity, one to satisfy the government and appear poor and desperate, and our real one. That becomes the only method of keeping what is yours.


27 posted on 11/07/2009 8:05:37 AM PST by Anima Mundi (The trouble with trouble is it starts out as Utopia)
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To: RobinMasters

Civil disobedience on a massive scale is the only thing left before the hot revolution begins!!


28 posted on 11/07/2009 8:23:21 AM PST by timetostand (Defund the left!! Defund the Federal Beast!)
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To: R0CK3T
”The Democrats are following that “real change comes from the barrel of a gun” just as their hero Mao once claimed.”

The democrats should be aware that real resistance also comes from the barrel of a gun.

29 posted on 11/07/2009 8:24:54 AM PST by ArchAngel1983 (Arch Angel- on guard)
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To: RobinMasters
Confirmed : Buy insurance or go to jail

Extortion, it's the Chicago way.
30 posted on 11/07/2009 8:25:48 AM PST by Dr.Zoidberg (Warning: Sarcasm/humor is always engaged. Failure to recognize this may lead to misunderstandings.)
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To: RobinMasters
♩ ♪ ♫ ♬
St. Peter don't you call me 'cuz I can't go,
I owe my soul to the Country's store..
♩ ♪ ♫ ♬

31 posted on 11/07/2009 8:27:43 AM PST by null and void (We are now in day 290 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: RepublitarianRoger2
Every day there's one more Bizarro World headline.

hmmmm.

Every day there's one more Bi-Zero World headline.

(Just trying it on for size)...

32 posted on 11/07/2009 8:29:56 AM PST by null and void (We are now in day 290 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: null and void

lol...i like it!


33 posted on 11/07/2009 8:53:13 AM PST by RepublitarianRoger2
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To: ArchAngel1983
>>>>The democrats should be aware that real resistance also comes from the barrel of a gun<<<<

I'd guess that they ‘ll soon be living thru another real life learning opportunity that goes like this...

LIVE by the sword, DIE by the sword.

The next big “teachable moment” will be coming in the next elections in 2010.

Others will follow as required...

34 posted on 11/07/2009 9:30:03 AM PST by R0CK3T
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